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making a big brake kit
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26/11/2008 17:50
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peanuthead
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i need to sort some brakes out at some point and i was thinking of making up my own big brake kit. i know a guy who does skyline kits and he can get hold of large brake disks off brembo so i was thinking maybe so 345mm drilled/grooved disks willwood or maybe exotic ca calipers i.e something like 996 turbo calipers what i can get braided lines cutom made by a loacal firm decent pads like either 2500's or something form ap racing range or even mintex 1144 pads. what do you guys think about this and has anyone done it?
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Re: making a big brake kit
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26/11/2008 17:53
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Marco20valveT
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Do it!
Then let me know the price!
Last edited by stan; 26/11/2008 17:58. Reason: No all CAPS posts please
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Re: making a big brake kit
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26/11/2008 17:54
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Re: making a big brake kit
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26/11/2008 17:55
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good stuff i knew i wouldn't be the only person to have this idea :-)
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Re: making a big brake kit
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26/11/2008 18:08
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i think its a good idea, problem is i really dont want to change my wheels i love the 20v turbo wheels, but i know a brake conversion is kinda the way forward!!!!
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Re: making a big brake kit
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26/11/2008 18:13
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its a no go with standard wheels! with 345mm discs you will need 18's and if you want 330mm disc would fit under 17's i will try and look
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Re: making a big brake kit
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26/11/2008 20:56
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330mm can be had off the shelf. Alfa GTA discs and calipers. Calipers bolt up as standard and the 330mm discs are floating, so can be swapped for a 4 stud arrangement.
Your car is Usain Bolt with wellies
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Re: making a big brake kit
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26/11/2008 21:59
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Or even more simply, just get a set of Alfa standard/3g/DBA discs drilled to suit the coupe CPD.
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Re: making a big brake kit
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27/11/2008 10:35
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oh that sounds easier and cheaper :-) i might look into that. i take it with the gta discs you would have to make up a bracket to move the caliper out?
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Re: making a big brake kit
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27/11/2008 10:59
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Nope, everything comes with the alfa caliper kit to fit the coupe, as the alfa's were killing the 305mm discs, so were upgraded to 330mm and the calipers moved out to suit. This is a direct bolt on the coupe hub
Your car is Usain Bolt with wellies
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Re: making a big brake kit
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27/11/2008 11:01
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The calipers are quite cheap too, £230 per side I think (there or there abouts).
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Re: making a big brake kit
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27/11/2008 11:41
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It seems to me that you'd be better off developing improved cooling to the brakes. Nigel started to have a look into this a few months back here but nothing came of it. A set of those Alfa jobs with 330mm discs and improved cooling via some form of ducting diverting a channel of cool air to the inside of the discs would likely yield much better results than simply fitting huge discs
F****** b****** thing...
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Re: making a big brake kit
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27/11/2008 11:43
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The bigger Alfa calipers dont suffer from overheating as much as the standard size ones do. That's why Alfa changed to the bigger calipers on the GTA's from a start point of having exactly the same ones the coupe does.
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Re: making a big brake kit
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27/11/2008 13:31
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but if i wanted to be freally posh should i try and make a kit with say 6 pots and 350mm + discs with added cooling or is this ott?
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Re: making a big brake kit
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27/11/2008 17:27
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begbie, am i reading this right? the 330mm alfa GTA calipers and discs are a direct bolt-on to the coupe 20VT? even the disc offset is correct, it will clear the coupe hub?
if that's true im gonna start saving...
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Re: making a big brake kit
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27/11/2008 17:31
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Discs will need redrilled as they are 5 x 98 PCD but otherwise everything just bolts on. Need 17" wheels too.
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Re: making a big brake kit
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27/11/2008 17:34
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the beauty of it is that i already have a 5x98 hub conversion and the wheels are already 17" (brought over from my old 156 which had 330mm brake conversion ) time to start saving! redd
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Re: making a big brake kit
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27/11/2008 17:45
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do they actully work well though? what do the guys who run events like time attack / totb use?
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Re: making a big brake kit
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27/11/2008 17:48
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Marco uses the Alfa 330mm Kit and he runs in the time-attack
Your car is Usain Bolt with wellies
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Re: making a big brake kit
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27/11/2008 17:58
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Re: making a big brake kit
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27/11/2008 19:13
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thanks for the tip...
time to start saving!
Last edited by Marco20valveT; 27/11/2008 19:13.
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Re: making a big brake kit
[Re: Saint]
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30/11/2008 19:34
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Only just read this - you really need to be thinking of upgrading the rears as the back of the standard car gets light under heavy braking (even with the brake compensator working properly), making the front stronger will only make that worse. 330's up front is more than enough IMO. The issue with the brakes getting too hot is down to the weight of the car making the standard discs work very hard. With two piece vented discs with a larger surface area I have had no issues with fade. I use a solid disc at the rear with an Audi TT caliper - it's nice to have a handbrake too: http://www.compbrake.co.uk/Fiat%2020V%20Coupe%20Front.htmThe pics are from my car - I helped them develop the kit from scratch. Dont expact the kit to be plug and play, you will have to get lines made up to fit. I bought a bias valve, but with both the front and rear kit fitted I dont think you need it.
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Re: making a big brake kit
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01/12/2008 01:48
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saint, the GTA came with 305mm calipers first, and 330mm later. make sure u get the correct calipers. pls post up pricing if u have it.
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