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Discs and pads upgrade
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09/02/2015 18:27
09/02/2015 18:27
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Cottrell
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Hello all
I've put up with the duff brakes for too long! I would like to upgrade the discs and pads but don't want to spend silly money. What's a good option. Also, does this actually make much of a difference?
Cheers
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#1525020
10/02/2015 02:12
10/02/2015 02:12
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Per
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Per
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Disc's MTEC Pad's Carbotech New fluid Correct bleed
You wont go wrong!
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#1525031
10/02/2015 08:20
10/02/2015 08:20
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Per, does this set up squeal like all the rest?
997 C4S
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#1525042
10/02/2015 10:16
10/02/2015 10:16
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Cottrell
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#1525054
10/02/2015 11:29
10/02/2015 11:29
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Nigel
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Disc's MTEC Pad's Carbotech New fluid Correct bleed
You wont go wrong! I would agree that the performance of this setup is VERY good, but in my experience, the durability was less than ideal. Basically, the Carbotech pads are simply too aggressive for the MTEC discs Check out my Carbotech feedback thread (although to be fair, there is some good feedback from Ian at Carbotech later in the thread)
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#1525064
10/02/2015 12:02
10/02/2015 12:02
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magooagain
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I agree with Nigel. My MTEC have warped with xp10s. Still stops well but a bit of vibration.
What i have found is as the discs heat up on a track day they get better(less warp so to say). But slow speeds when unloading the car and putting away into the garage i can feel it.
@ Cottrell my coupe is a track car only,so very heavy use of Brakes.
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Re: Discs and pads upgrade
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#1525065
10/02/2015 12:05
10/02/2015 12:05
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Nigel
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Basically, the Carbotech pads are simply too aggressive for the MTEC discs Actually - I'll re-phrase that, as it sounds like a Carbotech fault Basically, the MTEC discs are simply too soft for the Carbotech pads There - that's better....
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#1525071
10/02/2015 12:59
10/02/2015 12:59
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Cottrell
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Ok cheers guys... so what's a good setup for standard heavy road use? Does a good setup sort the squeaky brakes?
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#1525074
10/02/2015 13:09
10/02/2015 13:09
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Nigel
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so what's a good setup for standard heavy road use? Does a good setup sort the squeaky brakes? I use MTEC discs and Ferodo DS2500 pads - they have proved to be very effective (but a bit noisy, as the grooves are quite wide) I've now killed the discs, but it took most of a day at Bruntingthorpe, doing repeated big stops from 150+ at the end of the runway - they would be fine for everyday road use
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Re: Discs and pads upgrade
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#1525649
14/02/2015 11:38
14/02/2015 11:38
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Per
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Disc's MTEC Pad's Carbotech New fluid Correct bleed
You wont go wrong! I would agree that the performance of this setup is VERY good, but in my experience, the durability was less than ideal. Basically, the Carbotech pads are simply too aggressive for the MTEC discs Never understood that, I've used my MTEC's for both XP8 and Performance Friction pfc08 pads (well as hard as XP10 - yes, THEY squeel!) and never had any warping problems etc, about 8 trackdays at least. Maybe I've been more picky about cooling afterwards etc? I don't know. For me, they've been extremely worth their pennies!
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25/03/2016 01:19
25/03/2016 01:19
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Nello
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I have MTEC drilled to replicate the LE Brembo disc look without the expense (and without being able to get hold of any!) Use along with Fiat OE pads. I was getting a squeal when cold which progressed to at speed when the wheels were dead ahead. Turned out my 2.5k per year little use was resulting in sticking calipers rather than pad squeel itself. They are fine for normal road use but I'd look to upgrade for a ....heavier pedal
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Re: Discs and pads upgrade
[Re: Nigel]
#1576852
13/06/2016 09:25
13/06/2016 09:25
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Isn't it great that Fiat still use brake parts that are interchangeable between models.
Us old blokes still remember the 124, 125, 128, 131, 132 (not 2.0 litre) and X1/9 which all shared the same Rotors, front and rear where fitted, and same front pads and read pads. From memory, the 850 also shared this Rotor on the front (rear drums) but had thinner pads.
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Re: Discs and pads upgrade
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#1576974
13/06/2016 22:47
13/06/2016 22:47
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szkom
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The optional floating discs from the 500 EsseEsse (standard on the 500 695) fit the Coupe without ANY modification
Which were the disc that needed modification to the centre bore of the bell?
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Re: Discs and pads upgrade
[Re: szkom]
#1577036
14/06/2016 15:28
14/06/2016 15:28
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Nigel
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The optional floating discs from the 500 EsseEsse (standard on the 500 695) fit the Coupe without ANY modification
Which were the disc that needed modification to the centre bore of the bell? Those were the Punto EsseEsse floating discs - 4x100 and 1mm over-size for the center bore
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