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Re: New FC Dyno League Table Discussion Thread [Re: Flea] #948222
09/12/2009 10:52
09/12/2009 10:52

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Hi Leighton,

Excellent table. smile

One question, can you point the reason between the torque vs. boost rates. There are cars with same turbo, but boost/torque values are very different.

For example two Coupes with GT3071R turbos, same boost, but huge difference between the torque!

In my Coupe both GT28RS and GT3071R have been given quite similar torque values with same amount of boost.

Regards,

Jari

Re: New FC Dyno League Table Discussion Thread [Re: ] #948290
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That I've wondered about too.

Re: New FC Dyno League Table Discussion Thread [Re: ] #948654
09/12/2009 22:02
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Originally Posted By: jamie3
nice table, oh and im the highest bhp GT28r hopefully that will take some beating.


Since you have WI can i count my 28r with nitrous smile

Re: New FC Dyno League Table Discussion Thread [Re: ] #948709
09/12/2009 23:12
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I claim highest RSR then, wink


Now in the 400+ bhp club!
Re: New FC Dyno League Table Discussion Thread [Re: ] #948867
10/12/2009 10:30
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Depending on Flea's availability, I hope to be on there just after New Year, it's just going to be too tight before Xmas, unless you're working between Xmas and New Year.... ;-)

Re: New FC Dyno League Table Discussion Thread [Re: technics] #948873
10/12/2009 10:36
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Originally Posted By: technics
I claim highest RSR then, wink


and i seem to have the highest standard set-up...... cool

Re: New FC Dyno League Table Discussion Thread [Re: ] #948911
10/12/2009 11:32
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Jari the three cars with GT3071R's have different engine setups, so that will probably be a big factor in the difference in torque.

Eldinho

2047cc
Ported head with 3 angle valve seats
C&B cams
Raised CR 9:1

Westcoupe

2047cc
Raised CR 9:1

Luke's old 20VT

C&B cams
Standard CR and displacement

Re: New FC Dyno League Table Discussion Thread [Re: ] #948952
10/12/2009 12:33
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Yes, they are all quite different in terms of specification. Luke also had a small exhaust at 2.5" with the decat pipe only 2.25" so very restrictive. It did sound like a jetfighter though!

Of course some engines respond better for reasons that are are not always overtly evident, that's tuning for you...


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Re: New FC Dyno League Table Discussion Thread [Re: Flea] #949109
10/12/2009 16:45
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Okay, now I understand smile .
Yes, the exhaust like that is really very, very restrictive.

So, the list is not that simple at all. The values are not necessary comparable, if you don't know the whole truth of the setup's.

Anyway, list like that done in very same RR is excellent. That's why we always use also the same RR everytime to see the difference after what ever we have done.

-Jari-

Re: New FC Dyno League Table Discussion Thread [Re: Flea] #950258
12/12/2009 18:46
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Originally Posted By: Flea
Yes, they are all quite different in terms of specification. Luke also had a small exhaust at 2.5" with the decat pipe only 2.25" so very restrictive. It did sound like a jetfighter though!


yeah, smaller exhausts sound like jets in coupes with more than std power or with decats, scares passers by!

Re: New FC Dyno League Table Discussion Thread [Re: ] #950416
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Originally Posted By: BoostMeCoupeUp
yeah, smaller exhausts sound like jets in coupes with more than std power or with decats, scares passers by!


I agree - my car is quieter with a full 3" system than it was with the SuperSprint


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Re: New FC Dyno League Table Discussion Thread [Re: Nigel] #950512
13/12/2009 12:49
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Any idea what my old one put out after you mapped it Flea?

Re: New FC Dyno League Table Discussion Thread [Re: ] #954464
20/12/2009 23:05
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Woohoo, I'm now on there and making 'bout tree-fiddy' before the 3" downpipe cool


F****** b****** thing...
Re: New FC Dyno League Table Discussion Thread [Re: Flea] #971659
23/01/2010 11:55
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could you change owl10 to ryangt ?

Re: New FC Dyno League Table Discussion Thread [Re: ] #976135
31/01/2010 15:34
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Yippee I get to go on the table next time its up-dated... cool
Car runs GREAT after Flea's done his stuff. bow

Re: New FC Dyno League Table Discussion Thread [Re: ] #976144
31/01/2010 15:54
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not many 16vts anyone had theres mapped and know their results??

Re: New FC Dyno League Table Discussion Thread [Re: ] #976241
31/01/2010 19:20
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How much power, Fullpint.


Now in the 400+ bhp club!
Re: New FC Dyno League Table Discussion Thread [Re: technics] #976313
31/01/2010 21:28
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Originally Posted By: technics
How much power, Fullpint.

282.9bhp, Flea seemed very pleased not only with the result but also the health condition of my Coupe which was nice to hear..

Re: New FC Dyno League Table Discussion Thread [Re: ] #976314
31/01/2010 21:29
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Cool...


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Re: New FC Dyno League Table Discussion Thread [Re: technics] #976755
01/02/2010 17:41
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what kind of power would i get from my 16vt fully standard apart from fmic

Re: New FC Dyno League Table Discussion Thread [Re: ] #976790
01/02/2010 18:56
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Originally Posted By: johboy
not many 16vts anyone had theres mapped and know their results??


Unfortunately there are very few 16vts about so the number left for mapping is quite limited. I have done four now although only one has been on the FC dyno!

Originally Posted By: johboy
what kind of power would i get from my 16vt fully standard apart from fmic


Assuming the car is healthy and producing a standard 195bhp, then I would like to see somewhere between 230-240bhp. Of course it's not just about the headline figures, gains will be made across the full rpm range including off boost and part throttle.


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Re: New FC Dyno League Table Discussion Thread [Re: Flea] #976796
01/02/2010 19:16
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sounds good think ill book a day down in summer how much for a live map and a rolling road

Re: New FC Dyno League Table Discussion Thread [Re: Flea] #976960
01/02/2010 22:39
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And i'll be back again in a couple months.. Bigger and healthier than last time! Map is deffo gonna need tweaking... Then maybe I could sneak into the TOP TEN!? smile

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Re: New FC Dyno League Table Discussion Thread [Re: nick_d] #977943
03/02/2010 13:57
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Flea, have you ever had a car on the rollers before and after the remap?

I was thinking about the results my hybrid made the other day. As you know it made 292bhp at Track'n'road on the GTiR but I wasn't able to get a booking at Circuit Motors when it was mapped.

The mapped RS did go on your rollers (Circuit Motors) and made 342bhp but subsequently made only 315bhp at Track'n'Road.

I know you explained how this difference could be caused (I won't get into a 'rollers vs' discussion gear used, heat soak, inertia vs load etc), but adding a fixed % gives me 317bhp, adding a fixed figure gives 319bhp.

What do you think the GTiR would have made on your rollers?


F****** b****** thing...
Re: New FC Dyno League Table Discussion Thread [Re: Trappy] #978047
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The GTi-R is the same as the Hybrid S2 (both 60mm compressors), and as you can see they average 285-295bhp so the same as your Track n Road 292bhp run.

The GT28RS 0.86 is a big turbo and can flow up to 380bhp no problem, so your current 342bhp is just tickling it at the minute until you get some exhaust upgrades.


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Re: New FC Dyno League Table Discussion Thread [Re: ] #979079
05/02/2010 15:58
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im loving how im still managing to hold onto a spot in the top 10 after selling up! smile

seeing my figures makes me really miss my coupe!

Re: New FC Dyno League Table Discussion Thread [Re: ] #979544
06/02/2010 13:02
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never new the rsr could put out that much power shocked

Re: New FC Dyno League Table Discussion Thread [Re: ] #979549
06/02/2010 13:15
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Yippee Im on the table.

Re: New FC Dyno League Table Discussion Thread [Re: ] #979629
06/02/2010 16:58
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Damn.. I would if I could.

Re: New FC Dyno League Table Discussion Thread [Re: ] #982235
10/02/2010 21:28
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Extremely happy with my figures on standard internals crazy

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