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"Remote" mapping - Flea strikes again
#842905
03/06/2009 10:57
03/06/2009 10:57
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Per
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I need some sleep
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In the words of Borat: Success!! Just put in a fairly good guessed chip from Flea based on his experience of GT28R Coupe's, and RR-results with my new GT28R and Novitec chip (which was not very good: 1.2bar max, around 240hp @ the wheels and wet mixture all the way on boost). First impression was a little funny, during running-in with max boost flucturating between 0.8bar and 1.4. It did however settle soon after 5-6 floorings.. Now it hits a stable 1.3bar however I floor it, and it still holds 1.15bar @ 6000rpm.. If I read right, everything's pretty fussy at full steam.. The next RR-session's coming up and maybe some adjustments, the chip is reprogrammable. It goes like a rocket already though! I too join the Flea fanclub. Other mods: Garrett GT28R, matched to manifold Matched manifold to head New EBV: GM/Adelco (std Bosch Motronic boostcontrol) FMIC (Raceitaly), flowprepped *new* Custom FMIC short piping with heat protection *new* Larger IC-intake in bumper Forge DV006, green spring Modded airfilterbox, 4" trumpet (std paper filter) NGK BKR7EIX-iridium plugs, 0.9mm gap *new* changed to 0.7mm *newer* Direct cable fuelpump By-passed throttlehouse heating Mobil1 5W-50 oil Gearbox: Castrol TAF-X fully synth oil Alfa GTA clutch *new* Exaust: Fully custom stainless 3" downpipe 3" 300-cells metal cat Double lambdaplugs 2.5" from cat Double large full flow silencers
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Re: Remote mapping, Flea strikes again
[Re: Flea]
#843032
03/06/2009 15:05
03/06/2009 15:05
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Per
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That's a misunderstanding, I've believed in your business all along. I just could'nt get why my car behaved like it did after swapping turbo and I did'nt understand your explanation. Looking back at it I still not fully understand but you were certainly right!
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Re: Remote mapping, Flea strikes again
[Re: Per]
#843063
03/06/2009 16:15
03/06/2009 16:15
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Per
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Re: Remote mapping, Flea strikes again
[Re: Per]
#843081
03/06/2009 16:39
03/06/2009 16:39
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Posts: 5,405 Castle Combe
Flea
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Just put in a fairly good guessed chip from Flea... Guessed is Swedish for very clever So are you happy with 1.3bar holding 1.2bar, I didn't feel like taking it much further with your Pace sidemount.
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Re: Remote mapping, Flea strikes again
[Re: Per]
#843096
03/06/2009 17:01
03/06/2009 17:01
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DidCoop
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Nice work Flea when my GTiR turbo goes on and FMIC I'll DEFINITELY be wanting it live mapped by yourself "Stage 2" as you mention on your site
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Re: Remote mapping, Flea strikes again
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#843108
03/06/2009 17:27
03/06/2009 17:27
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Hani
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Hani
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Congratulations Per, let us know about the results when you take for another RR Good job Flea. I'm looking forward for my remote mapping
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Re: Remote mapping, Flea strikes again
[Re: Flea]
#843496
04/06/2009 10:48
04/06/2009 10:48
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DidCoop
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DidCoop
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I'm also curious as to how this remote mapping works
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Re: Remote mapping, Flea strikes again
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#843524
04/06/2009 11:08
04/06/2009 11:08
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Posts: 12,295 Sandhurst
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I'm guessing it's the following:
You tell flea your engine spec Flea creates chip suitable to your mods Flea send chip to you You put chip in and get it on the RR You tell flea RR results (power, AFR) Flea makes minor adjustments on the chip and sends you a new chip (providing the AFR is incorrect)
Your car is Usain Bolt with wellies
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Re: Remote mapping, Flea strikes again
[Re: Per]
#843587
04/06/2009 12:25
04/06/2009 12:25
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TurboJ
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TurboJ
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I assume you are running a safe/standard ignition map unless flea can hear det from Sweden
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Re: Remote mapping, Flea strikes again
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#843613
04/06/2009 13:04
04/06/2009 13:04
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coopsnoop
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Nice work Flea when my GTiR turbo goes on and FMIC I'll DEFINITELY be wanting it live mapped by yourself "Stage 2" as you mention on your site I had my hybrid fitted a couple of weeks ago by Rog at pwoeritalia along with a GTEC1 then fitted my FMIC last weekend and it felt considerably quicker with those mods. However after being mapped by Flea yesterday it has totally transformed the car. The driveability just feels so much better and FCCUK is it quick now. If you're adding mods and expect them to work on their own think again, go get a Flea map!
Last edited by coopsnoop; 04/06/2009 13:04.
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Re: Remote mapping, Flea strikes again
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#843634
04/06/2009 13:20
04/06/2009 13:20
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karl_20VT
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might sound like a stupid question, but if remoting mapping is the way forward, what is the current benifit from traveling down to flea's workshop (apart from being able to stare at the wonders of flea)
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Re: Remote mapping, Flea strikes again
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#843647
04/06/2009 13:45
04/06/2009 13:45
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Hani
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Hani
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Good question Karl Maybe someone from UK shall try the remote mapping and then go to Flea for another mapping and compare the results to see the difference. I think for remote mapping, Flea is considering safety more and more.
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Re: Remote mapping, Flea strikes again
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#843653
04/06/2009 14:02
04/06/2009 14:02
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pfoe
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pfoe
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might sound like a stupid question, but if remoting mapping is the way forward, what is the current benifit from traveling down to flea's workshop (apart from being able to stare at the wonders of flea) Time, id imagine. If you get it remote mapped you'll have to wait for the map to be written, then the time it takes to receive it, then a RR session, ad infinatum until the results are correct. Anyway after seeing the work Flea does quite how anyone wouldnt want to drive it the same day its done baffles me, i personally couldnt bare the suspense...and it wasnt even on my car!
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Re: Remote mapping, Flea strikes again
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#843662
04/06/2009 14:20
04/06/2009 14:20
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suba
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remote mapping is all well and good, but no substitute for mapping the actual car. Flea would have to use a chip that he has done for a car with similar spec, and there will be variences from car to car - hence the need for a rolling road check and revision of the map (which still involves travelling time.) I would only consider it as an option if you are not in the UK.
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Re: Remote mapping, Flea strikes again
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#843673
04/06/2009 14:32
04/06/2009 14:32
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coopsnoop
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100% agree, well worth the 6 hours of driving to get done. And the drive home was worth it alone (had to pull into the services to calm myself down a bit at one point!)
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Re: Remote mapping, Flea strikes again
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#843688
04/06/2009 15:15
04/06/2009 15:15
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karl_20VT
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remote mapping is all well and good, but no substitute for mapping the actual car. Flea would have to use a chip that he has done for a car with similar spec, and there will be variences from car to car - hence the need for a rolling road check and revision of the map (which still involves travelling time.) I would only consider it as an option if you are not in the UK. fair point, well put. Just need to not be so lazy sometimes
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Re: Remote mapping, Flea strikes again
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#843691
04/06/2009 15:18
04/06/2009 15:18
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karl_20VT
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so does this chip replace the GTEC1 chip location? Also i'm still wondering how a custom chip works with an EBC ?? surely flea's chip is telling the ECU to do one thing and the EBC is trying to control another, i just don't understand lol. I'm really interested and just want to learn, i will have to get done to flea's and have a good old chin wag (obviously whilst the car is being set up)
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Re: Remote mapping, Flea strikes again
[Re: Per]
#843708
04/06/2009 15:54
04/06/2009 15:54
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karl_20VT
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With a mapped chip you don't need any external extra boostcontroller. but the standard EBV isn't capable of holding boost properly ??? hence why i am currently running a Armval PRV. I've bought a HKS EBC for when the new turbo is installed, are you saying that I would be better off running the PRV instead of an EBC ?
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Re: Remote mapping, Flea strikes again
[Re: Per]
#843726
04/06/2009 16:32
04/06/2009 16:32
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suba
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suba
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depends - if you run the standard ebv then I think you do. If you run an uprated one then maybe not...
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Re: Remote mapping, Flea strikes again
[Re: Per]
#843755
04/06/2009 17:46
04/06/2009 17:46
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eldinho
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one good advantage with an EBC is that you can have different boost levels . I really wouldn't fancy driving around with the highest boost setting all the time.
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