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wheel bolts to convert 4x98 to 4x100 #778346
21/02/2009 14:33
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do these actually work?

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Re: wheel bolts to convert 4x98 to 4x100 [Re: ] #778357
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indeed they work..called wobbly bolts....I'm no expert but someone on here will be able to inform us if they last or have any problems with them confused


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Re: wheel bolts to convert 4x98 to 4x100 [Re: jimboy] #778900
22/02/2009 12:59
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I've used "wobbly bolts" for over 2 years with no issues whatsoever. smile

Re: wheel bolts to convert 4x98 to 4x100 [Re: ] #778939
22/02/2009 13:52
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I've got some too. I also needed spigot rings to get my alloys to fit.

Re: wheel bolts to convert 4x98 to 4x100 [Re: ] #778944
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I've had wobbly bolts fitted to mine for ages now as well along with spigot rings. No problems smile


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Re: wheel bolts to convert 4x98 to 4x100 [Re: Tartandude] #779206
22/02/2009 20:36
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again here! no problems smile

Re: wheel bolts to convert 4x98 to 4x100 [Re: ] #779337
22/02/2009 22:48
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sorry to butt in but is this correct, if i see some wheels with et40 and pcd 100 i can use wobbly bolts and thay will fit my 20vt

Re: wheel bolts to convert 4x98 to 4x100 [Re: ] #779370
22/02/2009 23:18
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no as you might still need spacers


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Re: wheel bolts to convert 4x98 to 4x100 [Re: ] #779384
22/02/2009 23:37
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It's not just about ET and stud pattern , it's about calipers on the way too , that why some people use spacers as well.Even with spacers you might have difficality , you need alloy wheel design that goes around the caliper.

If you look in the TUNING SECTION there is PERFORMANCE PART LIST and you can see which alloy you you'll be able to fit without much hassle.

Hope that helps

Re: wheel bolts to convert 4x98 to 4x100 [Re: ] #779402
23/02/2009 00:04
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AFAIK

the standard 20vt wheel offset is 38, 40 offset wheels 'should' be fine. If you buy alloys with a lower offset than 38 then you will need spacers to make up the extra offset to clear the calipers (brembos)

for example;

ET40 should clear
ET25 need 15mm spacers to clear

Wobbly bolts will convert the 100pcd to 98 pcd (but they only work upto 4mm difference, 1mm per wheel) they will not convert 108pcd to 98pcd.

Also the centre bore is 58.1, spigot rings can be used to reduce an alloys centre size to the correct size (as long as they are oversized), this recommended but not essential.

Hope that helps

Ninja

Re: wheel bolts to convert 4x98 to 4x100 [Re: ] #779419
23/02/2009 00:23
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it does help ,its just i was looking at a set of lenso wheels with et40 pcd 100 with spokes that head out as thay meet center ..they called Lenso Reizen GM...hope with wobbly bolts and a et 40 they b ok

Re: wheel bolts to convert 4x98 to 4x100 [Re: ] #779422
23/02/2009 00:25
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Originally Posted By: ninja
AFAIK

the standard 20vt wheel offset is 38, 40 offset wheels 'should' be fine. If you buy alloys with a lower offset than 38 then you will need spacers to make up the extra offset to clear the calipers (brembos)

for example;

ET40 should clear
ET25 need 15mm spacers to clear

Wobbly bolts will convert the 100pcd to 98 pcd (but they only work upto 4mm difference, 1mm per wheel) they will not convert 108pcd to 98pcd.

Also the centre bore is 58.1, spigot rings can be used to reduce an alloys centre size to the correct size (as long as they are oversized), this recommended but not essential.

Hope that helps

Ninja


Centre bore that what i forgot to mention .
The wheel always should sit on the hub , otherwise it could be off the centre and give you vibration

Re: wheel bolts to convert 4x98 to 4x100 [Re: ] #779425
23/02/2009 00:28
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ok many thanks

Re: wheel bolts to convert 4x98 to 4x100 [Re: ] #781007
24/02/2009 23:42
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Originally Posted By: ninja
AFAIK


ET40 should clear
ET25 need 15mm spacers to clear


That's not quite right. A lower offset number means the wheel has less negative offset from the mounting face to the centre line of the wheel. Therefore ET25 'sticks out' of the arches more than ET40 so to speak by 15mm.

In terms of 4x98 to 4x100 you also need to look at the hub or centre bore size. The fiat size is 58.1mm, but many alloys offer a 60mm centre bore or similar and a shim is required so that the centre of the alloy sits on the hub. You could conceivably get your hubs machined to 4x100 as a second pattern on the hub although it would take some of the strength away from the hub. Most brake discs would accept this sith a M12x1.25 bolt

Re: wheel bolts to convert 4x98 to 4x100 [Re: JohnS] #781367
25/02/2009 13:48
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I have one question, how long a bolt should/could you use; how long is the threaded section in the hub?

Re: wheel bolts to convert 4x98 to 4x100 [Re: ] #781445
25/02/2009 14:52
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it depends . . . . .

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