This weekend i have fitted the Turborevs FMIC from the group buy (which i think i was the only one to buy).
Now i have never fitted a FMIC before and didnt really have a clue what i was doing to be honest, so there was a hell of a lot of trial and error, and bodging!

So i now have the kit fitted and it is working a gem, my water temps are down by about 15 degrees c. Also i found the pipe work to be of a very high quality, as were the jubilee type connectors and silicon hose.

However, as it was a universal kit i had to fccuk about for what seemed like eons working out a route for the pipe work;
The route to the throttle body was fairly straight forward, and involved hacksawing one of the straight stainless steel pipes. down by about 3 inches, and then using what was left to create a 'U' shape with the 2 90 degree bend silicone hoses http://i258.photobucket.com/albums/hh249/mnmmoggy/DSC00975.jpg .

The next bit of pipe work i found very challenging. The kit included 2 S/S 'U' bends , however these were not tight enough bends to get round the back of the intercooler, so the only option i was left with was to go along the bottom of the rail that the radiator sits on. To do this i had to cut approx 3 inches off each end of the 'U'. I also had ao to cut around 6 inches off a 135 Degree S/S pipe, and butcher the original turbo reducer (by roughly cutting in half. However for all this to work i had to route the pipes between the oil cooler pipes and Towing anchor eye thing-and to do that i had to cut the eye and bend it out(which is something i really didnt want to do but i got desperate. http://i258.photobucket.com/albums/hh249/mnmmoggy/DSC00976.jpg .
I think this is the shortest route for the piping however it has lowered the car by approx 1/2 inch more, and as my car was already lowered i now have a massive 3 1/2 inch ground clearance, which is pretty crap!

To mount the intercooler to the front of the car i used cable ties and some brackets which i fabricated (whacked with a hammer).

In order to fit the bumper back on i had to cut a lot of the lower bumper back. Also the black bit under the grill had to be butchered.

Any way its all on now and im pretty chuffed with it. My only quarm is how low its made the car.
More pics; http://i258.photobucket.com/albums/hh249/mnmmoggy/DSC00974.jpg
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Please if anyone has any constructive critism id love to hear it. Opinions welcome!

Now give it a wash!

Stay away from kerbs and you'll be fine

I can only just clear a normal height kerb with my LE kit and that's exactly 5" clearance.

Yeah it needs a wash alright, been doing a lot of work on her recently so have neglected paintwork a bit

Nice to see it all coming together Matt - Saturday should be interesting - you're target is 273bhp.

do you mean your intake temps are down 15 degrees? if anything your water temps will rise because of the restriction to the radiator!

you should be ok with the low clearance, most people have to cut the undertray to allow for the piping!

looks good!

well done, u should move the k&n where the alarm sits. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v234/wazzer/coupeupperpiperoutestraightfilter.jpg

I mean when moving-say on a motorway, with a good supply of air, it has generally lowered the running temps, which is exactly what i was after.

I have also fitted an intercooler spray kit! not sure if it does much really but its pretty cool. Thanks for comments guys

Did you take the undertray off and leave it off?

That would cause lower running temps, but sticking a big obstruction in front of the radiator isnt going to make it any cooler

Since when did a FMIC kit for a Fiat Coupe in volve butchering up the car,having to chop up the alloy piping and the use of loads of cable ties aswell?

I told you all ages ago that this kit was a cheap universil kit,and Turborevs should be lifted out of it for claiming that this is a straight fit to a Fiat Coupe turbo.

False advertising and only after a fast buck.

I had to chop some of the pro alloy pipes because they were a bit too long, and that's designed specifically for the coupe!

You have to butcher the bumper and the undertray to fit pretty much any FMIC larger than a Pace one.

I have never had an undertray on my car, but if i did i suspect it would have needed chopping up.

Paddy the kit is cheap, and i wasn't expecting it to be a straight fit. But the fact is that is does and has fit on, clearly not as well as a custom made one. But its cost me £200 and a couple of days to fit, or the alternative would be a proalloy one at £539 inc VAT. So really i have saved my self £330, im happy with that

If you needed to chop something then you didn´t install it properly.
I installed a PA kit and didn´t need to chop anything


The undertray and front bumper needs some triming to fit. Always use the undertray. It´s there for a good reason

I installed it perfectly, they must have cut the pipes a bit too long on mine.

Fits like a glove


Also, I have seen on more than one other Pro Alloy FMIC fitted coupe that one or more of the silicone bends is bent more than it should be or pushed out of shape, especially the S-bend at the top.

Well thats a contradiction!!!!

Greg, there is no contradiction

The first quote I´m comment on the PA kit.

The second quote I´m comment on the undertray and front bumper.

These are two different things. You should at least know the difference between an undertray and a PA kit Or maybe you don´t

Maybe I´m wrong here, but I always thought that Highwayman and PA put this kit together and it is top quality. That´s why I commented on the fitting and that he needed to chop things to get it sorted.

Have you checked the lenght with other PA FMIC owners? Maybe there are more people that have had issues with the PA kit

No, I chopped an inch or two off a couple of the pipes and thought nothing more of it after that.

It took about 2 minutes, not what I would call an issue, seeing as it took the best part of an hour to drill the holes in the panel to mount it in, and cut my bumper into shape

wheres turborevs now?

He was all mouth on the group buy thread about his FMIC kit,but he seems to be keeping very quiet all of a sudden.

would this intercooler b alright? cheers http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?V...:MEWA:IT&ih=002

Take off the front bumber. Measure if it can fit and where you can fit it. Maybe you need to fabricate some new brackets. If everything looks okay buy silicone hoses and alu bends and start working

The PA IC dimensions: 495mm x 300mm x 65mm

Here is a pic of it fitted: FMIC

Gotta be honest i'm buying one of the turbo revs ones for mine and from the look of it matts piping is shorter than the pa intercooler (running from cooler to turbo that is lol) so really thats a better to have piping you can chop down as your route can be as short as possible, where as im guessing your pa kit was a perfect fit and has longer piping which correct me if im wrong but thats not so good lol. Well thats what the pic looks like where ya can see both cooler pipes on the right side.

Looks good. Glad to see the cup of tea in one of the shot too

just to add- i have now tidied the install up a bit, which included chopping the strapping eye off. This allowed me to push all the pipe work up so it is now only a few mm lower than standard. Works very well actually, i'm pretty chuffed with it.

sorry to drag up a relic post, but..

Matt, any better pics of how the pipeworks arranged? Also how it looks now you've tidied it up?
Myself and a mate have bought the kit and could do with a few pointers

Cheers,

Dan

Don't have any to hand, however, i will try get some for you as soon as i can.
Just to add, the intercooler now looks spot on after i've tidied it up and is performing faultlessly.
Will post up pics of routing, etc as soon as i can

excellent fella, many thanks.

Dan

As requested here are the details of how i have routed the pipework for the turborevs FMIC;

From the intercooler to the throttle body (right hand side as looking at car), i used the following parts;
1x straight reducer from 3" to 2.5"(bought seprately),
3x 90 degree bend hose (2 provided in kit and 1 from original piping),
and one of the straight lengths of hard piping (in kit).
I put the reducer onto the intercooler, then attached a short piece of hardpipe(as a joining), then created a sort of U-turn with 2 of the 90degree bends and another small piece of hard pipe. Clicky and Click
Then i added another 90 degree bend, again using a short piece of hard pipe as a joiner, pointing upwards towards the bonnet. Into this bend i put the long length of straight hardpipe, and then this just connects to the original pipe coming from the throttle body, Click . Thats the right hands side sorted, that was pretty straight forward.

From intercooler to turbo i used the following parts;
1x reducer
1x U-turn hardpipe (provided in kit)
1x silicon pipe joiner
1x 135degree hardpipe
1x original silicon reducer to turbo (already on car)

I added the reducer to the intercooler, and then into that i put the U-Turn hardpipe.(NB, i had to saw approx 90mm off both ends of this pipe)
I then used the silicon pipe joiner(in kit) to join the u-turn to the 135 degree bend. (NB, i had to chop approx 100mm from 1 end of 135 pipe)Click
Now, to join the pipework to the turbo, i've gotta be honest, I bodged it! I used the original hose and chopped around 70mm off the smaller diameter end, then spun it round so it could connect to the new pipework.
All this pipework was hanging very very low when i first installed it, so what i ended up doing was cutting the towing loop thing off, and then pushing the pipe up as high as it would go, in front of the oil cooler pipes and ran it along the bar which the radiator sits on. Finished it sits roughly 15mm lower than the twoing loop thing did.(dont need towing loop thing, the proer towing eye screws in through the bumper).
Please note that some pipes etc, may need trimming to size with a hacksaw. Took a lot of trial and error!
Finished product looks ok Click
Just another note, if you get this right first time you will be left with quite a few hardpipes and small silicon joiners, which, you could flog on ebay, and these go for quite a surprising amount(around £10 each)! Keep it a secret though!
Any questions, comments, or requests please ask!

Are these reducers necessary? seems a bit odd to sell a fmic kit with ends that don't match the pipework? Was hoping to get it on this weekend but can't see that happening without those!!

Cheers for the help so far matt!

Dan

Yeah they are necessary.
I also thought it was a bit odd, but i suppose it is a universal kit so you'd have to put a couple of different sizes in to cater for all cars, which would put price up.
And to be fair, when i bought it, Turborevs did say that they wern't included.
I'm not going to lie, this kit is a lot of hassle, but after a bit of tinkering its good. And cost effective!

The reducer is only necessary if you're still running either a std turbo or a turbo with a 50mm outlet.

Think he means a reducer on the end of the intercooler itself John

Right, BALLS ACHE...

Started at 10am and finished about 45 mins ago as I was running out of light.
The Intercooler is in place after so much faffing about, I've tried to mount it in such a way that the pipework wont sit lower than the bumper (I can only just get up my driveway and its not lowered!) Sketched out a bracket design (its held on with bolts/cable ties at the moment) and going to get them made up on monday, hopefully make something to support it from beneath too.

Lots of bumper cutting, knuckle cutting, swearing and faffing but its alright so far.

Fingers crossed that the pipework goes on just as smoothly (who am I kidding!!!)

(What arrived)
http://homepage.ntlworld.com/alan.jennings4/coupe/fmic1.jpg

(getting there)
http://homepage.ntlworld.com/alan.jennings4/coupe/fmic2.jpg

http://homepage.ntlworld.com/alan.jennings4/coupe/fmic3.jpg

Dan

Looks good so far Dan, would be interesting to see your brackets?
The pipework shouldn't be too bad

I'll take a pic once they are made making it so that I can adjust the height to get it just right

Right, after a week of driving round without the sodding thing plumbed in.. its on

Scared myself silly when one of the pipes decided to blow off on the Main DC going towards Peterborough Town Centre :
I've used hardly any pipework so have a lot left, will see if anyone wants any on here before flogging them on ebay

Will post up pictures as soon as I take them, doesn't sit any lower, so I'm chuffed I can still get up my driveway. Nor did I have to cut the towing eye.

Dan

few pics:

The bracket:
http://homepage.ntlworld.com/alan.jennings4/coupe/fmic4.jpg

Before the bumper went back on:
http://homepage.ntlworld.com/alan.jennings4/coupe/fmic5.jpg

All finished, just the undertray to go back on
http://homepage.ntlworld.com/alan.jennings4/coupe/fmic6.jpg

is it worth buying?

Looks like you have done a considerably more professional job than i did!
Looks good fella well done

only had to use 1 cable tie

and its 10mm wide and holding up up the main pipe underneath going into the turbo

Matt, did you find you got a lot more induction noise (sharp spoolup/whistling noise) once you got the fmic on?
Thanks by the way

Johna, its a lot of hassle and the bumper will need to be cut considerably due to how wide it is.

Brackets gonna have to come back off soon as its hardened steel and starting to oxidise (needs painting), so I'll show how I've routed the pipework from the IC to the turbo so people get a better idea as to whats what

Dan

ok cheers.

I only noticed more noise when a boost pipe was about to pop off, must have been air whistling through a gap i guess. Sorted all that out now.

and guess what happened after I posted that...
A pipe blows off leaving me stranded on a dual carriageway

Now its just popping off as soon as I put my foot down, its the standard S pipe to the inlet system thats coming off.
The Jubilee clip is done up super tight and still it keeps popping off, any ideas how to get round it?

Dan

i ended up bending the end of the pipe out a bit all the way round, with a pair of pliers, to create a sort of lip. I also put super glue in and clamped over it and havent had any more probs *yet*

I was thinking a chemical metal bead around the end of the pipe to create a lip, what you think? or is that overkill, I've heard you can use cheap hairspray or glue to stop it from coming off?

Dan

I think a lip is definitly the way forward. im pretty sure you can get the ends of the pipes rolled for not too much cash

you can buy the tool, sure I saw it in my Frost catalogue now you mention it.

Dan

scrap that...

http://www.frost.co.uk/item_Detail.asp?p...tSubcat=Forming

Buy this bad boy: The one on the left

u have pm

Thats essentially a slightly bigger version of what I'm already using! Still not holding, really need to lip out the pipe somehow.

Dan

I had a local engineering company weld a bead around my pipes and then sand them down slightly.

I've drilled the end of the pipe and screwed in some self tappers. see what happens tonight I guess.

Dan

I'm surprised it's popping off. My FMIC pipes dont have any beading on them and mine don't pop off. You could try a mattB and use hairspray to give you the wetness to get the pipes on and once that has gone off, you get a nice sticky texture which may help it hold on.

'so I'll show how I've routed the pipework from the IC to the turbo so people get a better idea as to whats what

Dan'


Any pictures of this? also did you need to buy reducers also? are they 3" to 2.5"? and how many are needed? is one needed for the join of kit pipe to original pipe to turbo?

Thanks in advance, Rob.

thought id bump this thread to say how i fitted my turbo revs cooler.

I couldn't put my hard pipes under the rad support because my cars to low and id only have around 3 inch clearance and a speed bump would mean bye bye hard pipe!. So i took my turbo side around the front of the intercooler and took it behind where your number plate goes on the bumper as there is lots of room for the pipe, then down a tad then around to the turbo, this is abit longer route but you wont have the clearance issue. I'd recommend people buying this intercooler to do this if your car is lowered. The car comes on boost exactly the same time as standard but does feel abit more lively. All in all i think it was a good buy.

bump maybe mix this with the other revs thread to make a really good sticky