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Winter wheels, refurbed but not happy. #456294
13/10/2007 19:30
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Okay so I managed to get a set of winter alloys to protect my 17" TSW's. I also wanted to test the differences in handling etc as the tyre sizes are wrong on the TSW's (thanks to the previous owner \:\( )

I've just spent ages refurbing the winter wheels using the guide in the FAQ section for paint colour reference, and I did think as I sprayed it on *Hmm, bit of a dark colour, maybe it's just the light in the garage*.

Errr, nope! Fitted this morning and now I'm looking for some views. Personally I think it's way too dark to be used with the bog standard wheels, makes them look tiny, or is it just because I'm used to nice shiny silver 17" wheels?

Doesn't matter too much, just frustrated with the length of time it's taken to get a decent finish and then feel disappointed when they get put on the car, although I guess that's always a risk you take with any styling job?

Anyway, here's the proof..........

Before

After


Roll on summer so I can whip them off again \:D


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Re: Winter wheels, refurbed but not happy. [Re: stan] #456296
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Think that looks good personally.

Dare I say, I'd rather have odd colour standards than those quite chav 17s.

Sorry! \:D


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Re: Winter wheels, refurbed but not happy. [Re: whatmoretyres] #456298
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Yep looks ok but could perhaps gain from some 'weed and feed' as looks a bit brown in patches.

Re: Winter wheels, refurbed but not happy. [Re: ] #456301
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 Originally Posted By: mitch
Yep looks ok but could perhaps gain from some 'weed and feed' as looks a bit brown in patches.



pmsl \:D


I shall pass that onto the *gardener*............. Oi! Missus, Mitch said yer grass was awful!

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Mitch, I'd leave the county now, while you still can \:D


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Re: Winter wheels, refurbed but not happy. [Re: whatmoretyres] #456302
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 Originally Posted By: whatmoretyres
......than those quite chav 17s.

Sorry! \:D




How very dare you! \:o


Do you know how much they cost the numpty owner prior to me? \:o


I bought the car for a lot less than those wheels cost him \:D

Last edited by stan; 13/10/2007 19:42. Reason: acshually I can see what you mean now that I compare them side by side............ hmmmm

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\:P No seriously the wheels look good to me, not seen that style done dark before.

Re: Winter wheels, refurbed but not happy. [Re: ] #456312
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look fine to me, although i am biased having dark wheels myself!!

Re: Winter wheels, refurbed but not happy. [Re: ] #456313
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I've been back out and agree they do look good, they are growing on me.

I've also just compared the old wheel with a standard wheel and got quite a shock! I'll post a picture in a wee while, but it's a cautionary tale of making sure you get the right tyre/wheel combination, there is nearly an inch of a difference in circumference between the two! \:o


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Re: Winter wheels, refurbed but not happy. [Re: stan] #456320
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Just to balance the thread out. I hate them, they look awful. Roll on Global warming then we will soon have no winter and you will not have to adorn your Coupe with such tut \:D ;\)

Re: Winter wheels, refurbed but not happy. [Re: stan] #456326
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Hmmm just done a comparison using an online tyre size calculator and it's scary news.......

Standard wheel and tyre:

Radius = 11.5"
Dia. = 23.1"
Circ. = 72.5

17" Wheel & Tyre:

Radius = 12.3
Dia. = 24.6"
Circ. = 77.3"

Speedo would read 6.7% slow so at 60mph on the speedo, the car would be travelling at 64mph.



Difference in physical size

and again!


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Re: Winter wheels, refurbed but not happy. [Re: bockers] #456328
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 Originally Posted By: bockers
Just to balance the thread out. I hate them, they look awful. Roll on Global warming then we will soon have no winter and you will not have to adorn your Coupe with such tut \:D ;\)




Just to balance it even further, it was your *Rover Stone Grey* recommendation I followed, so it's your fault! \:P


\:D


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Re: Winter wheels, refurbed but not happy. [Re: stan] #456353
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Stan you lazy oik - you took that last picture through the window \:D


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Re: Winter wheels, refurbed but not happy. [Re: came2dance] #456359
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One of each I think the dark ones look quite good \:\)

As forthe tyres. Well you see officer it's not my fault. I've got these wheels and the tyres are too big and...... \:D



You'll just have to put some lower profiles on the 17" Stan. Or make a mental allowance for the difference.



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Re: Winter wheels, refurbed but not happy. [Re: came2dance] #456365
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that's quite a size difference

Re: Winter wheels, refurbed but not happy. [Re: ] #456375
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Yes the size difference worries me a bit. It's almost like the previous owner glanced at the forum saw what everyone else was using but forgot to allow for the standard 15" wheels on the 20v na \:\(

Just done a quick test run and you can feel the difference tremendously: sharper steering, sharper brakes(!), and the speedo is now closer to correct: I'm being tailgated through the 40 again instead of the other way around

Car is now comfortable to drive, sounds quieter inside and doesn't feel the bumps the same yet has better feedback through the wheel.

Hmm, maybe I should have posted this in the tuning section? \:D

Thanks for the responses folks, I liked the photoshop of *one of each* it was interesting! \:o


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Re: Winter wheels, refurbed but not happy. [Re: stan] #456377
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Stan I prefer the standard wheels to be honest, not too sure about your colour choice, but I think you should bin the TSW's.

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I agree, I think I might keep them as spares, they have 3 new-ish tyres and one brand spanking new one, so ideal for MOT time \:D

Last edited by stan; 13/10/2007 22:22. Reason: oh, and I think the colour will be changing to standard-ish

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Not that they don't suit the car, it's just the whole TSW name....




VENOM'S


\:D

Re: Winter wheels, refurbed but not happy. [Re: stan] #456389
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The standard wheels look great on their own, off the car \:P

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\:P

back at ya! \:P


\:D


So, suggestions for a slightly lighter colour than Rover Stone Grey (it is too dark for the Speed Red imho).........


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Re: Winter wheels, refurbed but not happy. [Re: stan] #456395
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Ah you see not necessarily, Fran has painted his wheels a similar colour on his Speed red and it looks fantastic.

But it's the far superior 20VT wheels you see. ;\) \:P

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Ah, you see I did wonder if the fact there is sooo much more wheel is the problem, it makes them look *different*

I can't afford blower wheels \:\(


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Re: Winter wheels, refurbed but not happy. [Re: stan] #456471
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I think the problem is that the 16v/16vt/20v wheels are stating to look a little dated. \:\(

The coupe is still looking good though, you've done a great job. If they are only winter wheels then no problem, it will make you look forward to you getting the others back on even more.

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looks to me maybe they would of looked better black. strange though as i dont like black wheels. maybe its the black sills etc.

as above though still a good job done.

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Looks fine to me stan nowt wrong with that

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I saw this wheel on a coupé in Italy Ever seen these before \:\?

Last edited by came2dance; 14/10/2007 03:34. Reason: sorry for thr hijack - I did post it on coop spotting Europe. But it'll never ger seen there

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Re: Winter wheels, refurbed but not happy. [Re: came2dance] #456669
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But they still look crap. Even crapper after a win over the froggies. Silver is the only answer \:D

Re: Winter wheels, refurbed but not happy. [Re: bockers] #456700
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Personally I think your standard wheels need to be darker still and add a set of LE centre caps like this Coop \:# .

Baz \:\)


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agree with baz

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Hmmm, thanks for the feedback folks, I really appreciate it. I'm mulling over what to do next.

I'm wondering if side skirts or painting the sill body-colour would lift the look a bit?


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