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Re: Petition to reduce car tax on 20 year old cars
[Re: phil16vturbo]
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11/03/2024 22:57
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Re: Petition to reduce car tax on 20 year old cars
[Re: barchetta_ms]
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12/03/2024 10:43
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7472 signatures now, 16 of them here in the Aldershot constituency.
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Re: Petition to reduce car tax on 20 year old cars
[Re: barchetta_ms]
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05/04/2024 12:48
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Not an unexpected result Simon.
What the government never mentions is that the tax exemption was originally set at a rolling 25 years old
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Re: Petition to reduce car tax on 20 year old cars
[Re: barchetta_ms]
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05/04/2024 14:07
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Try again next year I suppose when there’s a new government. I noticed this part of their response (emphasis mine): The petition also referred to the costs of annual VED for a vehicle that is infrequently used. The current VED system is a tax on vehicle ownership rather than mileage, with rates based on factors including the vehicle type, engine size, date of first registration and carbon dioxide (CO2) emissions. However, motorists additionally pay fuel duty on the petrol or diesel which they purchase, so those who complete significant mileage in cars that run on petrol or diesel will generally pay more in fuel duty than those who drive fewer miles. If the VED is a tax on vehicle ownership then it should be a completely flat rate independent of all the other factors!
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Re: Petition to reduce car tax on 20 year old cars
[Re: Echodelta]
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05/04/2024 16:22
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Try again next year I suppose when there’s a new government. I noticed this part of their response (emphasis mine): The petition also referred to the costs of annual VED for a vehicle that is infrequently used. The current VED system is a tax on vehicle ownership rather than mileage, with rates based on factors including the vehicle type, engine size, date of first registration and carbon dioxide (CO2) emissions. However, motorists additionally pay fuel duty on the petrol or diesel which they purchase, so those who complete significant mileage in cars that run on petrol or diesel will generally pay more in fuel duty than those who drive fewer miles. If the VED is a tax on vehicle ownership then it should be a completely flat rate independent of all the other factors! Indeed it used to be a flat rate and not so many years ago either.
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Re: Petition to reduce car tax on 20 year old cars
[Re: PeteP]
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06/04/2024 06:43
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What the government never mentions is that the tax exemption was originally set at a rolling 25 years old I seem to remember in discussions at the time that it was originally set as a _date_ with no intention of making it rolling. I recall quotes from the time about peoples MGs never going to be covered, with associated rending of garments, ripping of hair, and gnashing of teeth. It seems equitable that vehicles should be charged for their consumption/mileage, and that is most easily done through a fuel tax (which is a bit hard to avoid) but that is considered regressive, affecting most those who can afford it least. Also, when did you last see a government give up a tax? Neil
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Re: Petition to reduce car tax on 20 year old cars
[Re: barchetta_ms]
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06/04/2024 20:10
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Yes you are right Pete, it was originally a 25 year rolling exemption, I remember waiting patiently for my 1973 Fiat 124 Spider to become exempt in 1998 but the exemption became frozen in 1997 or something, and I was trying to think of a way to persuade the DVLA it was made in 1972...
...and many years later the rolling exemption was re-introduced but at 40 years, so I'm waiting patiently again for 2025½ when my current 1985½ SpiderEuropa becomes exempt...
1996 Portofino 20vt & 2000 Pearl White Plus 2008 Ferrari F430 & 2017 Fiat 124 Spider
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