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How much vision can you take?
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15/03/2021 21:19
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I've just finished reading Manifesto, by Dale Vince. He's a pretty controversial figure and, before anyone points it out, he's my (very, very distant) boss.
Really interesting. So easy to dismiss until you realise how much of what he talks about he has already achieved.
Putting aside any party politics (which I think could be his next, hopefully not mainstream, step) and actually listening to what he says, is fascinating, and to me, at least, often convincing.
I'm not really attracted to people who are contrary for its own sake, but I think if you actually are a visionary, you probably develop it as a way of questioning the accepted status quo to effect change.
Anyway, I read it in one day, so it's not a massive investment of time. I think I like him more than the other "maverick" entrepreneurs you hear about.
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Re: How much vision can you take?
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Have a read of "Let me people go surfing" - Yvon Chouinard. Appreciate that there is always some form of re-writing o history and embellishment but it's a really good read / insight into doing things differently. I hadn't heard of Yvon Chouinard, but he sounds like a similarly unusual businessman. One of Dale's quotes is "Profit is what happens when you do everything else right"
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Re: How much vision can you take?
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Edinburgh - I have a soap box that is wearing out due to overuse about the education system. When we were at school, teachers and "the system" had the knowledge and we had to be organised in a fashion that enabled us to receive what was broadcast to us. Now, all the knowledge in the world is available to everyone with an internet connection. Those with a penchant for auto-didactism(?!) are no longer held back. If you don't get on at school, it is no longer a safe assumption that you are uneducated.
I think I'm trying to say that the assumption still exists, self-learning/group learning or not, that those who don't see eye-to-eye with traditional methods find themselves leaving school early sometimes with precious few avenues to explore. I am totally in favour of expanding these people's skills through other means such as vocational training or community service through which they should earn and deserve respect. Granted, it takes effort from them too.
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Re: How much vision can you take?
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16/03/2021 19:34
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One of Dale's quotes is "Profit is what happens when you do everything else right"
He pinched that from General Johnson of J&J fame and his “Credo”. I think he’s right though - if you get everything else right, you’ll make (and deserve) a profit.
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Re: How much vision can you take?
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Have a read of "Let me people go surfing" - Yvon Chouinard. Appreciate that there is always some form of re-writing o history and embellishment but it's a really good read / insight into doing things differently. I put that book as one of the top, and probably the top, business related books I have ever read, it is inspiring.
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Re: How much vision can you take?
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One of Dale's quotes is "Profit is what happens when you do everything else right"
He pinched that from General Johnson of J&J fame and his “Credo”. I think he’s right though - if you get everything else right, you’ll make (and deserve) a profit. That will be my fault for the misattribution; it wasn't claimed to be an original quote but as I hadn't heard it before, I leapt to the wrong conclusion!
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