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Re: Coronavirus
[Re: paul]
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25/04/2020 19:52
25/04/2020 19:52
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Quite frankly any comparison to the SS/ Gestapo /Spies is ridiculous .......... The Govt has to be seen to have powers to stop the idiots who are flaunting any lockdown rules . Yes loads of mistakes/ issues with how, almost all Govt's have handled this ,and some far better than ours, mainly the usual countries who are mega efficient---- Germany ,Switzerland ,Sweden .....who's population, in the whole, mainly does what is asked of it. I am 62 I don't want to catch it ...jujst incase I am one of the unlucky one ,to me its like playing Russian Roulette ,we have no idea who the virus is going to pick next. So I'm sorry to say until this is cleared up by a vaccine or whatever ,or until the lockdown is lifted if I see my neighbours having parties ...I would be one of the ones who would phone the Police and ask to have it stopped !!! And err exactly what my 29 year old daughter did in London with her neighbours last week . She wasn't too concerned about herself ,but she has neighbours on both sides of this party that are over 80 .......she was thinking of them . Play the game and none of the police measures are relevant , but unfortunately ,there are too many selfish A'holes out their that make having these rules necessary. stay safe and we will all come out the other side .......... and DON'T drink disinfectant I have no reason to disagree with anything you have wrote!
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Re: Coronavirus
[Re: Theresa]
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25/04/2020 23:23
25/04/2020 23:23
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It's been 'interesting' to see the stance that the BBC news took this morning to the report that Dominic Cummings has been attending the Scientific Advisory Group. They selectively quoted an interview with one of the actual scientists implying that there was no reason to be concerned. I'd listened to his interview on r4 an hour earlier and this wasn't the context he'd said it in. The story isn't even featuring on their main headline page anymore and has been demoted into the abyss, unlike Sky news. I'm increasingly starting to wonder if this is deliberate. https://news.sky.com/story/coronavi...gs-of-scientific-advisory-group-11978508If people like David Davis are concerned then I think we should all be. SAGE is there to form a consensus and then advise, not be steered by a political advisor in the advice it gives. I see a real parallel with that idiot Trump yesterday instructing his medical advisors to go to test his UV light & disinfectant theory.
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Re: Coronavirus
[Re: cyborg7]
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26/04/2020 00:32
26/04/2020 00:32
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GrahamL
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Hey, it's the BBC (AKA the Ministry of Public Enlightenment and Propaganda), does anyone really take anything they say seriously any more? They had an article which said 1) Face masks don't help 2) Buying them will only limit the supply for NHS workers. Er, what? "Journalism" at it's finest. The BBC reviews on the "Trust Pilot" site are interesting : https://uk.trustpilot.com/review/www.bbc.co.uk
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Re: Coronavirus
[Re: Theresa]
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26/04/2020 21:15
26/04/2020 21:15
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Did the police come out when your daughter rang them Paul? I've debated ringing them a few times regarding my neighbours having friends/family around for get togethers, but didn't want to waste their time I haven't seen my family for weeks, as due to working in a hospital, I'm worried I might pass it to them:( It really pisses me off seeing my neighbours carry on having their friends and family around!
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Re: Coronavirus
[Re: Theresa]
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26/04/2020 22:45
26/04/2020 22:45
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When I hear about your neighbours Theresa I have some sympathy with you. Unfortunately for my family we also live next door to a house which is rented out to people who don't think the rules apply to them- nothing has changed and they still get the usual numbers of probation hostel dweller types calling round, daily yawping and shouting expletives at each other, and the stench of cannabis coming from their boundary still spoils time in our garden. Ive thought about contacting the locals but things with this family and us are tense and it could turn into something far far worse. Just before I retired, and after a ding dong domestic with his wife the fine upstanding gentleman smashed his way into his property via the French doors using an iron bar. Although I was off duty (you are never off duty) I went next door to check that his wife and the kids were ok and nicked him as the locals were 11 minutes away. She wouldn't provide a statement but I detest domestic abuse so provided one myself which saw him get dealt with at court. So I weigh up the pros and cons of reporting them and as the cons include many months of misery waiting for due process to get shot of them, I haven't done so.
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Re: Coronavirus
[Re: Theresa]
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27/04/2020 09:50
27/04/2020 09:50
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Aye! unfortunately out of the lock in comes bad stories. I consider myself lucky where I live, very much village life quietly goes along. My lovely next door neighbour died a few years ago & his wife recently has been put in a care home, so directly next to us absolutely no movement or noise whatsoever. However village life has changed over the years, more people have came to reside here, just like other places up & down the country. It is a desirable place. There are a couple of families who, are not to sound pompous non desirables & drink & drugs are their hobbies. We only hear about one family way down the road from us & you can read about their exploits in the local paper. Another tribe lives a couple of hundred yards up the road, I pass their house now & again & often hear shouting & swearing, of course they own a couple of hounds from hell, you know the ones. In saying all this I've never engaged with them & directly have not been bothered.
On a last note, I can only shudder & feel for the women who are subjected to all kinds of cruelty during the lock in.
Keep up beat everyone.
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Re: Coronavirus
[Re: Theresa]
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28/04/2020 13:08
28/04/2020 13:08
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Really interesting reading all the comments,
What a pleasure to see different points of view, discussed politely and evenly.
Yes very much agree with what you all say- well thought out - MRS, Edinburgh, GrahamL, Cyborg, all mirror my own view of the values of the British Media/BBC in particular. Over the years I have learnt the pinch of salt method is the best with british Media. The start of the Covid 19 "do NOT wear masks they won't help" and last weeks "People may HAVE to wear masks to use public transport" was a really good example.
And good points re Germany, Switzerland and their ultra reliability -I've had a view point for some time that UK could take about 4 weeks of this and then people would start to get cabin fever. And the Government needs to then think about an exit strategy.
I hear those who say they think the covid laws are good and needed. I think that those silly enough to flout the rules get whats coming to them. And rather then then me I say!
But I have this feeling that the average person is getting itchy feet. And the increase in traffic and now shops legally re-opening is just the start. People have done really really well in general, We have seen sites in the last month never seen-even in World War 1 or 2.
But I think people need that exit strategy about now-or else people are just going to start edging back to normal. A lot of people are cut off from loved ones, vulnerable family members, and no income.
Fingers crossed an exit plan is coming.
Stay safe all - broad lit, sunny uplands hopefully close to the horizon!
Regards
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Re: Coronavirus
[Re: Jim_Clennell]
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28/04/2020 14:05
28/04/2020 14:05
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Where did that comma come from.... It was there all along, you just couldn't see it. Comma chameleon. hmmm......."move to crap joke thread" will I, won't I..... .
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Re: Coronavirus
[Re: MeanRedSpider]
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28/04/2020 22:46
28/04/2020 22:46
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"I’m normally OK with what the BBC do given the very tricky line they have to walk - and they are also humans after all. Mrs MRS has taken to listening to LBC and it really highlights how the BBC have to try to remain balanced." What tricky line do they have to walk ? They are forcefully funded by the British tax payer and should just pressent the news with no right (fat chance ) or left angle just the news .I stopped paying my tv license last month I don't watch the BBC gave up in the last couple of years . In fact they have stopped people from doing this as so many people wont pay for it anymore We all all human including ITVnews,SKYnews,c4 and Five news . I don't get the "human part" what has that got to do with the bbc . I have Listened to LBC 97.3 for the last 30 years . I get it for free and i know whos on and what politicial leaning they are . Ferrari right wing . Obrien left wing . Fogarty left wing .Mair left wing .Farage right wing . Iian dale on the fence . Swarbick left wing and i am ok with that . The BBC in its current form is doomed
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Re: Coronavirus
[Re: robcoupe20vt]
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29/04/2020 04:17
29/04/2020 04:17
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The BBC in its current form is doomed I imagine that's what Rupert wants.
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Re: Coronavirus
[Re: robcoupe20vt]
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29/04/2020 07:23
29/04/2020 07:23
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"I’m normally OK with what the BBC do given the very tricky line they have to walk - and they are also humans after all. Mrs MRS has taken to listening to LBC and it really highlights how the BBC have to try to remain balanced." What tricky line do they have to walk ? They are forcefully funded by the British tax payer and should just pressent the news with no right (fat chance ) or left angle just the news .I stopped paying my tv license last month I don't watch the BBC gave up in the last couple of years . In fact they have stopped people from doing this as so many people wont pay for it anymore We all all human including ITVnews,SKYnews,c4 and Five news . I don't get the "human part" what has that got to do with the bbc . I have Listened to LBC 97.3 for the last 30 years . I get it for free and i know whos on and what politicial leaning they are . Ferrari right wing . Obrien left wing . Fogarty left wing .Mair left wing .Farage right wing . Iian dale on the fence . Swarbick left wing and i am ok with that . The BBC in its current form is doomed I think you’ve perfectly illustrated all of my points why it’s so difficult for the BBC. Depending upon your point of view, you will decide whether they have a specific bias (all bias is relative to the observer to some extent). You’ve also shown that all individuals (humans) have political leanings. On LBC they’re able to wear those openly. On the BBC, as you seem to have pointed out, they are not allowed to. Personally, I prefer that. O’Brien was painful to listen to yesterday, for instance, because it was just constant sniping at every individual of the government - often in an unreasonable way. I have sympathy with pretty much every leader/government (Trump excepted) dealing with C-19. We don’t accept our leaders learning on the job and we judge them only on the information that’s available right now. That’s a bit like giving the verdict in a trial at the midway point. I’m not liking the BBC right now but, yes, all the staff are humans, they all have careers to think about (quite a few, like Mair, of commercial broadcasters have ex-BBC) but they also have to appear neutral, keep it edgy when appropriate, and inform, educate and entertain. Personally, I’m glad that there’s some public service broadcasting. It provides an imperfect benchmark against which to judge the others by and avoids us getting a Fox News style broadcaster.
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Re: Coronavirus
[Re: MeanRedSpider]
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29/04/2020 10:04
29/04/2020 10:04
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"I’m normally OK with what the BBC do given the very tricky line they have to walk - and they are also humans after all. Mrs MRS has taken to listening to LBC and it really highlights how the BBC have to try to remain balanced." What tricky line do they have to walk ? They are forcefully funded by the British tax payer and should just pressent the news with no right (fat chance ) or left angle just the news .I stopped paying my tv license last month I don't watch the BBC gave up in the last couple of years . In fact they have stopped people from doing this as so many people wont pay for it anymore We all all human including ITVnews,SKYnews,c4 and Five news . I don't get the "human part" what has that got to do with the bbc . I have Listened to LBC 97.3 for the last 30 years . I get it for free and i know whos on and what politicial leaning they are . Ferrari right wing . Obrien left wing . Fogarty left wing .Mair left wing .Farage right wing . Iian dale on the fence . Swarbick left wing and i am ok with that . The BBC in its current form is doomed I think you’ve perfectly illustrated all of my points why it’s so difficult for the BBC. Depending upon your point of view, you will decide whether they have a specific bias (all bias is relative to the observer to some extent). You’ve also shown that all individuals (humans) have political leanings. On LBC they’re able to wear those openly. On the BBC, as you seem to have pointed out, they are not allowed to. Personally, I prefer that. O’Brien was painful to listen to yesterday, for instance, because it was just constant sniping at every individual of the government - often in an unreasonable way. I have sympathy with pretty much every leader/government (Trump excepted) dealing with C-19. We don’t accept our leaders learning on the job and we judge them only on the information that’s available right now. That’s a bit like giving the verdict in a trial at the midway point. I’m not liking the BBC right now but, yes, all the staff are humans, they all have careers to think about (quite a few, like Mair, of commercial broadcasters have ex-BBC) but they also have to appear neutral, keep it edgy when appropriate, and inform, educate and entertain. Personally, I’m glad that there’s some public service broadcasting. It provides an imperfect benchmark against which to judge the others by and avoids us getting a Fox News style broadcaster. Spot on.
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Re: Coronavirus
[Re: robcoupe20vt]
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29/04/2020 17:38
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I stopped paying my tv license last month That's what I like to hear. When the BBC announced a few months back that due to budget constraints they were axing the sensationalist, blatantly biased "news" programme "The Victoria Derbyshire show", it smelled like.... victory!
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Re: Coronavirus
[Re: JKD]
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29/04/2020 19:08
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Went to the supermarket the other day and there was another shopper in the queue who for the purposes of this post I shall call Prick. One of the other shoppers got too close to Prick because Prick said very aggressively that they were standing too close to him and to not touch him. By the way, this other shopper was wearing a mask and gloves and had a basket full of essential looking items.
Now before anyone here feels the need to defend Prick as if he was someone who was just observing the social distancing rules, I would like to add that he was a hypocrite himself. For you see, Prick wasn't wearing a mask or gloves. And he himself only had one item. If it had been an 'essential item' I could understand him needing to go out just to get that one item. But it was an item that didn't justify him going and risking spreading this virus to other shoppers for.
So to summarise - no mask, no gloves, one none essential item and a shitty, arrogant, selfish hypocrite attitude.
Prick perfectly represented the ''I'm alright Jack" mentality.
For a (topical) note of balance, my wife's uncle has behaved very much like Prick recently - and quite possibly worse. Whilst he looks and behaves like a fairly normal prick, he is actually struggling with some pretty hefty mental illnesses, made more challenging by the disruption to his (usually carefully managed) routine and anxiety caused by this situation. He has no other family and we wait daily for a call summoning us to deal with him having a crisis. So far, he's just been behaving like a prick, so we'll take that.
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Re: Coronavirus
[Re: Theresa]
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29/04/2020 19:46
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As a care worker I deal with mental issues. Everyone has a story & you never quite know what to expect at times. Certainly not taking sides or judging anyone, but there are times & there are times.
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Re: Coronavirus
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29/04/2020 19:55
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I stopped paying my tv license last month That's what I like to hear. When the BBC announced a few months back that due to budget constraints they were axing the sensationalist, blatantly biased "news" programme "The Victoria Derbyshire show", it smelled like.... victory! I cancelled my TV license because i dont watch or use the bbc i Player and will not be forced to pay for something i dont use .Maybe "The Victoria Derbyshire show" is sh£t thats why it was cancelled .
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Re: Coronavirus
[Re: Theresa]
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29/04/2020 20:14
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Peeps - the Beeb may not be perfect but what do you want - a faceless automaton delivering the facts in a purely objective fashion? https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/bbc/Nothing what we don't know already - centre left bias, does use emotive language but never failed a fact check and the latter - with the prevalence of fake news and online reporting with dubious integrity - is a major tick in the box for me. https://www.theguardian.com/media/2017Interesting how UK media is viewed generally in the US with the BBC, The Guardian, Reuters and The Economist making the top 10 of most trusted sources. Trust me - we could do much worse! Everyone stay safe!
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