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Re: Induction Kit or Uprated Panel Filter
[Re: pvig73]
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16/05/2017 13:11
16/05/2017 13:11
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MarioCirillo
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Drilled airbox with K&N Panel Filter is the best way forward
Proud Owner of Rosso Speed LE041
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Re: Induction Kit or Uprated Panel Filter
[Re: pvig73]
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16/05/2017 17:43
16/05/2017 17:43
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Gunzi
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This was my approach, I didn't so much as drill the airbox as install a piece of B&Q drain pipe. It made a great noise whether spooling or full boost. This was the Apexi Induction kit I ordered. I read a lot of stories of fake units being sold cheap on eBay so decided to order from a firm I knew direct from Japan. If you don't mind waiting then this is a great way to buy. If you go the Apexi route presumably you can measure the inter diameter of the inlet pipe and match to the correct Universal kit?
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Re: Induction Kit or Uprated Panel Filter
[Re: pvig73]
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18/05/2017 18:20
18/05/2017 18:20
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K&N or pipercross?
Will a remap be needed for replacing the panel filter from OE to say a pipercross? I'd like to change only to gain a little more induction noise whilst keeping the OE look of an unmolested air box.........
Boooooooooost!!!
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Re: Induction Kit or Uprated Panel Filter
[Re: Submariner]
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19/05/2017 09:45
19/05/2017 09:45
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jimboy
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I had a K&N cone on mine for a couple of years...swapped to airbox and panel filter about 10 years ago...couldn't believe how much better/responsive the engine was lower down the rev range compared to the cone...my car is near standard. Yep, been said on here on several occasions that a cone filter will loose you omph just where you would want it. K&N panel is disliked by some because of the oil issue. Standard set up works well, in saying that I've a non oiled Pipercross panel filter simply because I purchased it for next to nothing & it will last. When I first got my Coop I had a double foam mushroom filter that I used, sounded great but it was messing about with the air mass sensor.
I'm an old git & happy with it,most of the time
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Re: Induction Kit or Uprated Panel Filter
[Re: pvig73]
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19/05/2017 10:30
19/05/2017 10:30
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jimboy
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Drilled airbox will not give you anything other than extra noise. It's been proved on here how the OE air system is well up for handling tuned up Coops.
I'm an old git & happy with it,most of the time
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Re: Induction Kit or Uprated Panel Filter
[Re: Gunzi]
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19/05/2017 11:24
19/05/2017 11:24
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Julien
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This was my approach, I didn't so much as drill the airbox as install a piece of B&Q drain pipe. It made a great noise whether spooling or full boost. This was the Apexi Induction kit I ordered. I read a lot of stories of fake units being sold cheap on eBay so decided to order from a firm I knew direct from Japan. If you don't mind waiting then this is a great way to buy. If you go the Apexi route presumably you can measure the inter diameter of the inlet pipe and match to the correct Universal kit? I had the same apexi filter a few years ago on my 16vt...i didn't understand why my coupe would not produce more power above 0.9 bar (with td05h-18G so around 280hp, filter was given for 450hp and was 76mm inside diameter). I searched for months the reason of the low performance at 1.2bar then I tried to remove the filter "just to give it a shot". I instantly gain 30-40hp I now run a massive AEM filter with no performance downside. Stock airbox is ok until 250hp, if you want to go 300hp+ then you should look for a good induction kit.
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Re: Induction Kit or Uprated Panel Filter
[Re: pvig73]
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19/05/2017 12:12
19/05/2017 12:12
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pvig73
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Thanks guys,
I'll have a hunt around and see what I prefer. Would definitely love to drill the airbox as I liked the noise it had before.
Last edited by pvig73; 19/05/2017 12:14.
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Re: Induction Kit or Uprated Panel Filter
[Re: pvig73]
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19/05/2017 12:43
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jimboy
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With big induction kits comes a lot of extra noise & that is enough for some petrol heads to be going on with. I'm no expert but I used to swear by this sort of thing, but on reading up & listening to what others have said/discovered the amount of extra air going into the engine with an aftermarket induction kits is minimal, & that's the whole idea of things is it not? If more/extra power is your goal there are other avenues to pursue, but I Like a bit of extra noise myself. Actual tests & proved data kinda does it for me.
I'm an old git & happy with it,most of the time
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Re: Induction Kit or Uprated Panel Filter
[Re: pvig73]
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19/05/2017 15:21
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Is the standard air box inlet horn in the best position for maximum cold air inlet too as I always thought it was a bit high in the engine bay and could have done with a longer inlet pipe into the air box horn......any comments or thoughts?
Boooooooooost!!!
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Re: Induction Kit or Uprated Panel Filter
[Re: Clintos]
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19/05/2017 16:20
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jimboy
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Is the standard air box inlet horn in the best position for maximum cold air inlet too as I always thought it was a bit high in the engine bay and could have done with a longer inlet pipe into the air box horn......any comments or thoughts? I used to think along these lines once Clint & was convinced cold air would be better if the position was different, however I've since read a well informed piece about how a car on the move, the air is cool all over the engine bay. I'm being a bit simplistic, there was more to it than that, but that was the nuts & bolts of it.
I'm an old git & happy with it,most of the time
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Re: Induction Kit or Uprated Panel Filter
[Re: pvig73]
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19/05/2017 18:31
19/05/2017 18:31
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magooagain
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This is mine. I removed the front trumpet,then made the hole bigger. I now have that red tube collecting air down at the front spoiler and the rest of the hole collecting air as before but no trumpet.
Last edited by magooagain; 19/05/2017 18:52.
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Re: Induction Kit or Uprated Panel Filter
[Re: magooagain]
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20/05/2017 03:49
20/05/2017 03:49
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This is mine. I removed the front trumpet,then made the hole bigger. I now have that red tube collecting air down at the front spoiler and the rest of the hole collecting air as before but no trumpet. Any improvement on performance and temperatures etc?
Boooooooooost!!!
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Re: Induction Kit or Uprated Panel Filter
[Re: pvig73]
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20/05/2017 06:38
20/05/2017 06:38
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magooagain
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It still performs well in very hot temperatures.
But I can't really say if it's an improvement . I would have to put a standard system back on to see a difference I imagine. And that's to much faffing about.
I think it's basically that you make a choice and try it out.
In my situation all sorts of stuff is going on and it's hard to think about what slight difference an air intake makes when I have two or three French hot hatches trying to get past me on a hairpin.
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