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Re: Audi R8 or Nissan GTR?
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07/09/2016 00:53
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The GTR and R8 are cars from different leagues. The GTR is a 2+2 GT so from the Audi stable it should surely be up against the RS5. The RS5 in my eyes is far better looking if not quite as capable. The R8 is a two seat sports car. It's main competitors would be Porsche, Aston, Jaguar, Lotus and Maserati. Sadly it is also given a run for its money by its little sister - the TTRS But as you asked R8 or GTR I would have to say the R8. The GTR is a very capable car but it just looks too, oh how do I say this? I can imagine the GTR attracting plenty of attention from the young boy racers.
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Re: Audi R8 or Nissan GTR?
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07/09/2016 09:15
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The GTR and R8 are cars from different leagues. The GTR is a 2+2 GT so from the Audi stable it should surely be up against the RS5. The RS5 in my eyes is far better looking if not quite as capable. The R8 is a two seat sports car. It's main competitors would be Porsche, Aston, Jaguar, Lotus and Maserati. Sadly it is also given a run for its money by its little sister - the TTRS But as you asked R8 or GTR I would have to say the R8. The GTR is a very capable car but it just looks too, oh how do I say this? I can imagine the GTR attracting plenty of attention from the young boy racers. I'd say these points are all true. To me the practicality isn't really a concern. The fact the GT-R has a backseat (of sorts) is a bonus, if it had been a pure 2-seater it would still be in contention. I've no doubt the types of admirers the two cars would attract would be very different (albeit with some overlap), but as I only ever buy cars for my own enjoyment (as opposed to being for the attention you get) then it doesn't bother me too much
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Re: Audi R8 or Nissan GTR?
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07/09/2016 10:51
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Those GTR's look very muscular and large on the road. Very deceptive from what you see in the pics. I like their road presence.
Sort of the ultimate Jap car.
I always see the R8 as a bit of a car of someone that couldn't afford a ferrari or Lanbo personally. Not taking anything away from it, especially the new V10, but just my thoughts
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Re: Audi R8 or Nissan GTR?
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08/09/2016 10:29
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Look at the issues with the Audi 4.2 unit first, there are some mental bills you can get for silly things like an oil seal (3k) etc etc.
I'd lean towards the gtr, I couldn't cope with thinking but the V10 (I know you already have one, but still)...
They are both great cars and I'd say it's down to weather you want ultimate performance with room for 5 or something that seats 2 that looks more exotic.
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Re: Audi R8 or Nissan GTR?
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08/09/2016 11:29
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Off topic Trappy - but what does your calculator do for the 918, La Ferrari and P1? I appear to have edited a previous post in answer to this rather than quote it... See above
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Re: Audi R8 or Nissan GTR?
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08/09/2016 11:36
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I've found a data set for the Ferrari LaFerrari today!! 50mph roll for 10 seconds
Audi R8 V8 393.4m Jaguar F-Type V8s 404.6m Trappy 408.3m R8 V10 2010 409.5m E60 M5 412.7m Nissan GTR (2009) 423.8m Nigel 430.5m R8 V10 2013 437.2m Porsche 918 516.7m Ferrari LaFerrari 534.3 McLaren P1 540.9m
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Re: Audi R8 or Nissan GTR?
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09/09/2016 17:20
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I've found a data set for the Ferrari LaFerrari today!! 50mph roll for 10 seconds
Audi R8 V8 393.4m Jaguar F-Type V8s 404.6m Trappy 408.3m R8 V10 2010 409.5m E60 M5 412.7m Nissan GTR (2009) 423.8m Nigel 430.5m R8 V10 2013 437.2m Porsche 918 516.7m Ferrari LaFerrari 534.3 McLaren P1 540.9m
Bloody hell those hybrid hypercars really are mental. Also worth noting just how capable my M5 actually is according to these numbers. I wasn't expecting it to be quicker than the first gen V10 R8.
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Re: Audi R8 or Nissan GTR?
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10/09/2016 10:17
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How about an Aston...they can only go up in value in the long term...http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201608267166979?search-target=usedcars&make=aston_martin&price-to=45000&radius=1500&postcode=s104fl&searchcontext=default&page=1&sort=pricedesc&onesearchad=new%2Cnearlynew%2Cused&logcode=p&adPos=8
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Re: Audi R8 or Nissan GTR?
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12/09/2016 10:01
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Can I be bold and suggest a Tesla model S? They are in budget and very quick.....
And something completely different... Interesting call! The P85D (fast one with 690bhp) isn't in budget. Under £50k is only the 362bhp version as far as I can see.
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Re: Audi R8 or Nissan GTR?
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12/09/2016 10:03
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50mph roll for 10 seconds
Aston Martin V8 Vantage (2008 model) 391.1m Audi R8 V8 393.4m Jaguar F-Type V8s 404.6m Trappy 408.3m R8 V10 2010 409.5m E60 M5 412.7m Nissan GTR (2009) 423.8m Nigel 430.5m R8 V10 2013 437.2m
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Re: Audi R8 or Nissan GTR?
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13/09/2016 11:11
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50mph roll for 10 seconds
Aston Martin V8 Vantage (2008 model) 391.1m Audi R8 V8 393.4m Jaguar F-Type V8s 404.6m Trappy 408.3m R8 V10 2010 409.5m E60 M5 412.7m Nissan GTR (2009) 423.8m Nigel 430.5m R8 V10 2013 437.2m I guess the next question is: Does anyone know of an airfield we can use to put these to a practical test?!
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Re: Audi R8 or Nissan GTR?
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13/09/2016 14:24
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50mph roll for 10 seconds
Aston Martin V8 Vantage (2008 model) 391.1m Audi R8 V8 393.4m Jaguar F-Type V8s 404.6m Trappy 408.3m R8 V10 2010 409.5m E60 M5 412.7m Nissan GTR (2009) 423.8m Nigel 430.5m R8 V10 2013 437.2m I guess the next question is: Does anyone know of an airfield we can use to put these to a practical test?! Test it yourself! Send me a data set for a car from any road test. 0-30mph all the way through to the highest speed in the test (e.g. 0-150mph). Don't post up the distance times and speeds though. I'll then run the acceleration data through the calculator and post up the distance results. If they match, you know the above is FACT I've got a simple stop watch macro and a bar chart that allows me to race cars tested in 1950 with anything tested since Plenty of road test data sets found here
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Re: Audi R8 or Nissan GTR?
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14/09/2016 15:14
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50mph roll for 10 seconds
Aston Martin V8 Vantage (2008 model) 391.1m Audi R8 V8 393.4m Jaguar F-Type V8s 404.6m Trappy 408.3m R8 V10 2010 409.5m E60 M5 412.7m Nissan GTR (2009) 423.8m Nigel 430.5m R8 V10 2013 437.2m I guess the next question is: Does anyone know of an airfield we can use to put these to a practical test?! Test it yourself! Send me a data set for a car from any road test. 0-30mph all the way through to the highest speed in the test (e.g. 0-150mph). Don't post up the distance times and speeds though. I'll then run the acceleration data through the calculator and post up the distance results. If they match, you know the above is FACT I've got a simple stop watch macro and a bar chart that allows me to race cars tested in 1950 with anything tested since Plenty of road test data sets found here I didn't mean from the point of view of verifying the numbers, I meant from the point of view of an excuse to set up a few drag races
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Re: Audi R8 or Nissan GTR?
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14/09/2016 16:47
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sorry mate both are not a driver's cars .... put your foot down and the comp takes control ... naa ... both dogshit as far as i am conserned Quoted for prosperity.... So - an R8 or GTR aren't driver's cars, they are both sh!t and a Celica with 400bhp and no traction control is better because it has aircon and electric mirrors... Wake up and smell the roses hairspray.... I'd dump my Coupe in a heartbeat for either the GTR or the R8
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Re: Audi R8 or Nissan GTR?
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14/09/2016 18:00
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I would actually disagree that the computers do all the work in the GTR and the R8, having driven both pretty hard on track. They do a good job of flattering the driver and they are easier to drive than, say, a Ferrari 360 (which I've also driven hard on track), but imo it's a complete misconception that the GTR and R8 "do the work for you". Personally, by the time I'd finished my time with the Ferrari 360 I felt like I'd been wrestling a bear, and whilst that might appeal to the absolute purists, I preferred the GTR and the R8 by quite a considerable distance.
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Re: Audi R8 or Nissan GTR?
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15/09/2016 14:31
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I didn't mean from the point of view of verifying the numbers, I meant from the point of view of an excuse to set up a few drag races Ah, fair play I'd be more than up for a drag race day. Maybe from a roll though considering the opposition!! The offer is still there though. Anyone, click that link to the C&D road tests and send me the acceleration data set so I can show you it accurately calculates the distances
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Re: Audi R8 or Nissan GTR?
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16/09/2016 13:47
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I've been tempted by an AMG V8 but I think I'd just find it deeply frustrating except for a race track and, even then, my old Alfa gives a far more visceral experience. But that AMG GT/GTS is a beautifully made machine. Would be a lovely thing to own. Problem with these types of cars is that they are hardly ticking over at 60-70 mph and they can reach these speeds almost anywhere. The performance available is almost completely pointless but it is possible to make and sell, therefore available. Something smaller, lighter, (and slower) is usually more fun on public roads where one has to be responsible.
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Re: Audi R8 or Nissan GTR?
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16/09/2016 19:22
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I've been tempted by an AMG V8 but I think I'd just find it deeply frustrating except for a race track and, even then, my old Alfa gives a far more visceral experience. But that AMG GT/GTS is a beautifully made machine. Would be a lovely thing to own. Problem with these types of cars is that they are hardly ticking over at 60-70 mph and they can reach these speeds almost anywhere. The performance available is almost completely pointless but it is possible to make and sell, therefore available. Something smaller, lighter, (and slower) is usually more fun on public roads where one has to be responsible. Absolutely. That's why I chose the 350 version of the SL - I can actually drive it and push it a little bit (still not that much)
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