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Re: I told you so...
[Re: barnacle]
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27/06/2016 08:39
27/06/2016 08:39
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Had a really terrible thought and might regret my vote now!! Does this mean the de-regulation of the standard toilet roll orientation? What will this mean to everyday people? arrgh what have i done!
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Re: I told you so...
[Re: MeanRedSpider]
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27/06/2016 08:51
27/06/2016 08:51
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Jonny
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Well, I'm pretty disappointed in the responses from the Brexiteers on here. Nothing substantive just "The vote's over - suck it up". Suck what up, though? You've voted for no plan, your side is reneging on its key points and I'm still hearing no positive news from this. I'd have thought if the result was such a great idea, you'd have come to a robust defence of it and be lining up all the great news that is coming. Apart from keeping Johnny Foreigner out (assuming we don't want free trade with Europe), I'd love to hear all of the changes to laws and regulations you have in mind that's going to make life better for us all. I suspect the truth is that you don't know. Prove me wrong, please. This is all I'm hearing, and I know there are quite a few embarrassed (not on here) people who wished they hadn't voted how they did. Why should anyone just suck it up and move on? Pretty much half (maybe more than half now) of the voting public didn't (don't) want to leave the EU. It isn't over and we may still stay in the EU.
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Re: I told you so...
[Re: barnacle]
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27/06/2016 09:02
27/06/2016 09:02
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mattB
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What about them yellow pointy things on lorry wheels - will they still exist or can they be replaced with a different colour/shape? We might even find out the reason they exist in the first place............
Death-rattle-tastic
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Re: I told you so...
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27/06/2016 09:12
27/06/2016 09:12
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Posts: 1,723 Brisbane, Australia
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What about them yellow pointy things on lorry wheels - will they still exist or can they be replaced with a different colour/shape? We might even find out the reason they exist in the first place............ Would they be the "pointers" on the wheel nuts? If so, they are there so as the driver can easily see if his nuts are coming undone. Then he can tighten his nuts!
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Re: I told you so...
[Re: barnacle]
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27/06/2016 10:25
27/06/2016 10:25
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Downhillryder
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Seems to me the Remainers are just like the EU governors they so want to stay with
Can't get a democratic vote on Mastricht ? Then lets ignore democracy and have another vote. Can't win that ? Lets rename what we want to do , call it something else and do want we want anyway. "**** Democracy"
I despair of the whole country's intolerance to others views and how they name call and insult especially from behind the safety of social media.
Last edited by Downhillryder; 27/06/2016 11:00. Reason: Grammar
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Re: I told you so...
[Re: Downhillryder]
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27/06/2016 11:30
27/06/2016 11:30
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MeanRedSpider
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Seems to me the Remainers are just like the EU governors they so want to stay with
Can't get a democratic vote on Mastricht ? Then lets ignore democracy and have another vote. Can't win that ? Lets rename what we want to do , call it something else and do want we want anyway. "**** Democracy"
I despair of the whole country's intolerance to others views and how they name call and insult especially from behind the safety of social media. All I want to understand is what the Brexiteers will actually change (in detail not in broad "take back control" terms). I haven't heard it yet. I haven't heard what the fine voters of Ebbw Vale think will happen, for instance. I am just trying to understand what they see that I can't - that's not unreasonable. On a separate note, a Dutch friend sent me a quote from our own Winston Churchill: "The best argument against democracy is a 5-minute conversation with the average voter". I'm all for being positive - I'm just looking for the things to be positive about. Brexiteers, please help.
Last edited by MeanRedSpider; 27/06/2016 12:55.
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Re: I told you so...
[Re: barnacle]
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27/06/2016 14:12
27/06/2016 14:12
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Nobby
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I have a Brexiter friend who has decided since friday to put lots of Pro Britain posts on his facebook feed. A recent one was a link to a version of the song Jerusalem by Katherine Jenkins. I reminded him that the original versus told the story of a young Jesus who travelled to England and set up a new Jerusalem. I commented that I hoped Jesus had a visa. He didn't see the irony
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Re: I told you so...
[Re: barnacle]
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27/06/2016 14:23
27/06/2016 14:23
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OnlyItalian
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There's a lot of talk of people/organisations holding off on big purchases.
I'm not going to buy that Henry hoover now, and instead wait for the new "Henry Hurricane" 3000 watt super hoover!
And does this mean we get our weather back? Instead of just having nothing, punctuated by catastrophe.
Last edited by OnlyItalian; 27/06/2016 14:26.
"Proud owner of LE141 and a 99 VIS broomie "
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Re: I told you so...
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27/06/2016 14:26
27/06/2016 14:26
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Jonny
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I have a Brexiter friend who has decided since friday to put lots of Pro Britain posts on his facebook feed. A recent one was a link to a version of the song Jerusalem by Katherine Jenkins. I reminded him that the original versus told the story of a young Jesus who travelled to England and set up a new Jerusalem. I commented that I hoped Jesus had a visa. He didn't see the irony The simple fact is it's a complete and utter mess. The only thing I hadn't given consideration to in this whole debate was how divisive it would be post vote. I fear it's going to get a lot worse before it gets better. And I'm not talking about the economy. The EU debate for many politicians was always deeply political and I think they'll now take it to another level.
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Re: I told you so...
[Re: OnlyItalian]
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27/06/2016 14:29
27/06/2016 14:29
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There's a lot of talk of people/organisations holding off on big purchases.
I'm not going to buy that Henry hoover now, and instead wait for the new "Henry Hurricane" 3000 watt super hoover!
And does this mean we get our weather back? Instead of just having nothing, punctuated by catastrophe. They've proved that lower wattage motors don't make for lesser hoovers. Although if you're a man, you really should ignore that advice. Bigger is better...
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Re: I told you so...
[Re: barnacle]
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27/06/2016 15:38
27/06/2016 15:38
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WOW
A car forum with all these politicians on it.
Out of interest, can someone define Racism.
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Re: I told you so...
[Re: mikndo69]
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27/06/2016 16:00
27/06/2016 16:00
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OnlyItalian
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The belief that all members of each race possess characteristics, abilities, or qualities specific to that race, especially so as to distinguish it as inferior or superior to another race or races.
"Proud owner of LE141 and a 99 VIS broomie "
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Re: I told you so...
[Re: barnacle]
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27/06/2016 16:10
27/06/2016 16:10
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Nobby
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Quick question.... has there been any sort of manifesto produced that clearly states what will happen if we left the EU? Is that a no?
Whats to stop us leaving the EU, BUT the Gov implementing measures to replicate exactly what is happening now with regards to immigration/inclusion in the single market etc...
i.e. the Brexiters don't really get what they asked for.
Its no different ofcourse to a general election, parties making promises, people voting them into power and then not delivering those promises (tuition fees anyone?)
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Re: I told you so...
[Re: barnacle]
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27/06/2016 16:19
27/06/2016 16:19
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Correct, straight out of the Oxford English.
I was called a racist today for telling some bloke on a bike he needed to F@*^ing look before he pulled out of the junction in front of me. and also told to get back to my own country.
Incidentally he was of Asian origin probably born in England and I also was born here too.
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Re: I told you so...
[Re: mikndo69]
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27/06/2016 16:26
27/06/2016 16:26
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OnlyItalian
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and also told to get back to my own country. Did you tell him to f*%k off back to the 70s you throwback freak?
"Proud owner of LE141 and a 99 VIS broomie "
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Re: I told you so...
[Re: barnacle]
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27/06/2016 16:34
27/06/2016 16:34
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Funnily enough no.
I was just confused as I am white with a midland accent. I wonder which country he thought I was from.
I was travelling through Sparkbrook in Birmingham at the time.
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Re: I told you so...
[Re: mikndo69]
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27/06/2016 16:52
27/06/2016 16:52
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OnlyItalian
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I was just confused as I am white with a midland accent.
I've heard that about you midlanders But then that's just a racist stereotype eh.
Last edited by OnlyItalian; 27/06/2016 16:53.
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Re: I told you so...
[Re: barnacle]
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27/06/2016 17:13
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On a side note about racism, when I asked a local young white person if a non white (is that the pc term nowadays, never sure) person can be racist her answer was ...
"No of course not, black people cannot be racists"
I kid you not, that's what being taught in schools it would seem.
Oh and before we start calling her a thick moron, she'll probably get straight A's. (just for clarity)
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Re: I told you so...
[Re: mikndo69]
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27/06/2016 17:58
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Funnily enough no.
I was just confused as I am white with a midland accent. I wonder which country he thought I was from.
I was travelling through Sparkbrook in Birmingham at the time. ...................................was you the only " honky " in sparkbrook today ? oops, too much watching " love thy neighbour " !
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Re: I told you so...
[Re: mikndo69]
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27/06/2016 18:01
27/06/2016 18:01
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MeanRedSpider
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I still don't understand why you wanted it defined.... Part of the problem broadly with the immigration debate and more specifically with the Brexit discussion is that it somehow legitimises race-related views. I've lived and worked in 4 other countries (if you include Scotland - which, in the circumstances, seems fair) and I've never been subject to either racist or even nationalistic comment. Nationalism, racism and religion are all great seeds for hate to grow.
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Re: I told you so...
[Re: barnacle]
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27/06/2016 18:28
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Barney
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As I'm about to board a flight to Germany I can assure you my motivation to vote leave wasn't anything remotely like that. Part of the leave campaign highlighted that we are part of the world, not just Europe. The news shows the worst in people. I hope to goodness leave didn't win purely because of such distasteful views but I fear that might be the case.
Last edited by Barney; 27/06/2016 18:49. Reason: More considered choice of words.
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Re: I told you so...
[Re: MeanRedSpider]
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27/06/2016 18:28
27/06/2016 18:28
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Part of the problem broadly with the immigration debate and more specifically with the Brexit discussion is that it somehow legitimises race-related views. This is an astute observation. Something I argued way back on one of these threads. I believe the fault lies with the media and politicians. It is much easier to characterise someone worried about immigration as racist. It is easier to call Farage and his followers racist rather than argue the counter case for open borders. It makes better headlines to shout racists vote for Brexit. Consequently the debate seems to bring out racist views, but I wonder if it's always been there and never raised in our consciousness ? BTW I know UKIP has racist members, so too do all the parties but we will never have a proper debate on immigration until we can recognise the difference. BTW again Enoch Powell was hoisted on this petard but it seems now a lot of his worries and predictions have come to pass. Was he out and out racist or did polititians and media do for him as well ? BTW The very topic/argument here make me feel very conscious that I ought to say I don't consider myself racist :-(
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