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Re: Bad Experience in Facebook Owners Group
[Re: djmobi]
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16/05/2016 21:10
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I started my working life way before email and other faceless ways of communicating came about, and have learned, sometimes the hard way, that some individuals project their own emotions onto what others have typed, without thinking about the consequences (that is, if you feel angry and read a blunt text/email/post, you tend to assume the writer was angry etc).
It is a weird pschological thing, and I have seen (or initiated or been victim to...) many an innocently sent email etc being totally misinterpreted because the reader has injected a tone into the message that the writer was not feeling when they wrote it.
It sounds like the mod in question might have done this, and being a mod (whatever qualification you need, maybe just volunteering!!) should have stepped back, removed any perceived tone, looked at the issue, seen it for what it was (an attempt to clarify a cost), and helped the process, rather than step in and by inappropriate action, cause more issues (Mods job is to reduce issues yes?).
I have learned the hard way, never project tone or mood onto something someone else has written unless its a damned good book that you don't need to respond to!!
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Re: Bad Experience in Facebook Owners Group
[Re: djmobi]
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16/05/2016 21:38
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Indeed. Been guilty of the above myself on more than one occasion with regards to emails and other online situations. I am sure if this was in real life rather than cold type the conversation would be a lot different.
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Re: Bad Experience in Facebook Owners Group
[Re: djmobi]
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16/05/2016 22:50
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I left it last night.....im sure they won't miss me but I won't miss them either
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Re: Bad Experience in Facebook Owners Group
[Re: djmobi]
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16/05/2016 23:52
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^^^100% agree, way to easy to misconstrue what's been said
Ps I slept fine, no hard feelings djmobi
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Re: Bad Experience in Facebook Owners Group
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17/05/2016 10:16
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A little saying .
Trust nothing you hear, and only one half of what you see.
For what it's worth I read the disagreement as it happened and I agree with djmobi that the initial involvement from the moderator was uncalled for.
However the way you swore at him several times warranted his actions as you wouldn't do it on here.
So your both at fault .
Regarding the Facebook groups,I think this club needs to stop criticising them as it doesn't help your cause.
On a daily basis references are made to fccuk regarding assistance or how to guides,thus serving as free club advertising to over 4000 members .
90% of the members are current or ex fccuk members ,and whilst every attempt is made to undermine both Facebook groups ,this club needs to accept that it is quiet on here for a reason,as opposed to the groups who have 300-400 posts daily .
The fb clubs have thrived ,injection of new ideas constantly on a daily basis and an enthusiasm second to none by the guy with a double barrelled name.
No one judges the members joining by illiteracy or youth ,but encourage there presence .
The only constant in life is change,if you refuse to accept it then all you will have is a fccuk reference manual.
This club should encourage such enthusiastic individuals to join fccuk not isolate them by judgement.
That is all.
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Re: Bad Experience in Facebook Owners Group
[Re: djmobi]
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17/05/2016 11:47
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As I said on the FB group in question, which there are a few of. I like interacting and discussing on all. And enjoy all. I find this group you can be a little more interactive and detailed and maybe precise ... and the FB group (as all FB groups) more of a quick fire quick browse/read. That's what I think about it all 
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Re: Bad Experience in Facebook Owners Group
[Re: djmobi]
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17/05/2016 11:50
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I think JBT makes a very good point.
I am a member of several Coupé-related Facebook groups and they are certainly busy places with lots of posts and pictures posted. I think there is also a great deal of useful information being exchanged and a thriving (if sometimes fraught - as the OP has found) trading scene.
For a lot of people, myself very much included, Facebook is great for keeping in touch and many other things; undoubtedly, "old-fashioned" forums like this one may have a changing role and, as John says, change is inevitable.
Nonetheless, I personally prefer this more structured format for discussing the things I care about (whether cars, cricket, football, politics or... cars) and find the "chatter" on Facebook groups distracting and usually irrelevant to me. With a different approach to moderation (different - not better or worse!), freer discussion will inevitably lead to misunderstandings (often for the reasons pinpointed by Nigel) and conflict. It happens here with our infamously "strict" policy, so it's not too surprising elsewhere. So, without putting either format down, I hope that both types of enthusiasts' meeting places have a continuing role.
ETA: Patch just said it all rather more succinctly!
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Re: Bad Experience in Facebook Owners Group
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17/05/2016 11:56
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A little saying .
Trust nothing you hear, and only one half of what you see.
For what it's worth I read the disagreement as it happened and I agree with djmobi that the initial involvement from the moderator was uncalled for.
However the way you swore at him several times warranted his actions as you wouldn't do it on here.
So your both at fault .
Regarding the Facebook groups,I think this club needs to stop criticising them as it doesn't help your cause.
On a daily basis references are made to fccuk regarding assistance or how to guides,thus serving as free club advertising to over 4000 members .
90% of the members are current or ex fccuk members ,and whilst every attempt is made to undermine both Facebook groups ,this club needs to accept that it is quiet on here for a reason,as opposed to the groups who have 300-400 posts daily .
The fb clubs have thrived ,injection of new ideas constantly on a daily basis and an enthusiasm second to none by the guy with a double barrelled name.
No one judges the members joining by illiteracy or youth ,but encourage there presence .
The only constant in life is change,if you refuse to accept it then all you will have is a fccuk reference manual.
This club should encourage such enthusiastic individuals to join fccuk not isolate them by judgement.
That is all. I agree I shouldn't have swore at him and I was definitely at fault for that as I mentioned in the original post....I hope when you say that warranted his actions, I hope you are talking about the 10% of his actions that were asking me not to swear. As for "you wouldn't do it on here".....no I wouldn't as I wouldln't have to. It is obviously true that the FB groups are much busier than the forum and I enjoyed being on the group but these situations are prevalent on Facebook. Not sure what it is about facebook that makes people think they can talk to people however they want (and I include my own swearing in that) but for some reason on Facebook people dont care and chuck insults around like they are going out of fashion. Something that wouldnt happen on this forum.
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Re: Bad Experience in Facebook Owners Group
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17/05/2016 11:58
17/05/2016 11:58
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A little saying .
Regarding the Facebook groups,I think this club needs to stop criticising them as it doesn't help your cause.
On a daily basis references are made to fccuk regarding assistance or how to guides,thus serving as free club advertising to over 4000 members .
90% of the members are current or ex fccuk members ,and whilst every attempt is made to undermine both Facebook groups ,this club needs to accept that it is quiet on here for a reason,as opposed to the groups who have 300-400 posts daily .
The fb clubs have thrived ,injection of new ideas constantly on a daily basis and an enthusiasm second to none by the guy with a double barrelled name.
No one judges the members joining by illiteracy or youth ,but encourage there presence .
. I have to agree with JBT here. The same thing is happening on Mercedes forums that I am a member of. The forums are getting quieter while the FaceBook page is thriving with enthusiasm. It's not by chance that Facebook has billions of users worldwide. It's an extremely useful tool for commnication and in many ways better than the forum as an active meeting place to discuss our cars. And I like that car groups generally only discuss the cars The Fccuk forum is an fantastic reference library, but like a library you have to keep the noise down and whisper and it seems a little outdated now . The fact that the club does have a Facebook page now is a step in the right direction. As JBT intimated I think we have to acknowledge the usefulness of each and start using them together for the benefit of the current Fiat Coupe owners and enthusiasts.
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Re: Bad Experience in Facebook Owners Group
[Re: djmobi]
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17/05/2016 12:21
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Got no idea what face groups are out there.
Just had a quick google, but didn't get past the French one!
There was a video of a nice yellow Coupe and a lady without her jumper on. I need to lie down.
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Re: Bad Experience in Facebook Owners Group
[Re: djmobi]
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17/05/2016 21:27
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The facebook group that this happened on was started as another facebook group has several quite nasty people on it. Or at least that is the way they like to behave on it. Only last night i watched with some amusement as a spat happened,started over a bolt size! You feel hard done by. But the moderator Alexander was just trying to stop the nastiness happening on that group.It is far to easy to get into a swearing match online. If we talked the way we often can online in the real world,we would most likely get a slap.
All a storm in a teacup really. The group in question has a lot of nice folk on it,I certainly enjoy it. Come back,it really was just a misunderstanding. Some apologies both ways and it would all be fine.
I've had my coupe for 9 years and if was not for this forum and the How To Guides that used to be on here I wouldn't still have a coupe as my daily driver. This forum has kept so many coupes on the road. Hopefully it will continue to for years to come.
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Re: Bad Experience in Facebook Owners Group
[Re: djmobi]
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17/05/2016 21:44
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I created and moderate three FB groups, two are sports turf and agronomy related (one has 2,700+ members and the other 2,400+ members) and also a Porsche 944 turbo owners group. Never have any issues. Must be Fiat Owners .... ahahahahahahahaha!!  EDIT - Actually no, on the Porsche Turbo owners group (131 members) there were two guys from Malta. Both Porsche dealers (2nd hand). I think they come to blows one evening out on the street ..... hahahahaha!
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Re: Bad Experience in Facebook Owners Group
[Re: djmobi]
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17/05/2016 22:15
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you have a fiat parts for sale one as well dont you? I joined one the other day that I think you are the admin for anyway
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Re: Bad Experience in Facebook Owners Group
[Re: djmobi]
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17/05/2016 22:24
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Oh yeah! and that one 
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Re: Bad Experience in Facebook Owners Group
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17/05/2016 23:15
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Regarding the Facebook groups,I think this club needs to stop criticising them as it doesn't help your cause. The club has had a Facebook group and page since 2013, though they have not always been open and published. I confess it took longer to get board approval than I would have liked but that is how a democratic organisation is run, it's not just about what I or anyone else wants. It takes time to change and quite rightly the concerns and views of those in favour and those against must be considered. Individuals may still express their personal views regarding social media, or anything else for that matter. You could do well to realise that a individuals comments are not "CLUB" views. For the record, and I am speaking as a representative of the club here, this "CLUB" fully supports social media outlets and continues to actively use them.
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Re: Bad Experience in Facebook Owners Group
[Re: barnacle]
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18/05/2016 09:18
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But what we don't want to do is extend arguments and epithets that start elsewhere onto the forum here... Isn't a forum exactly the place to discuss coupe related that happen to you elsewhere.....so you can get the support and opinions of your peers.....then discuss them?
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Re: Bad Experience in Facebook Owners Group
[Re: djmobi]
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18/05/2016 10:00
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FYI the admin in question has contacted me of his own accord and apologised and I Have apologised to him for the swearing.
Something he didnt have to do so I thanked him for that.
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Re: Bad Experience in Facebook Owners Group
[Re: djmobi]
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18/05/2016 10:01
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But what we don't want to do is extend arguments and epithets that start elsewhere onto the forum here... Isn't a forum exactly the place to discuss coupe related that happen to you elsewhere.....so you can get the support and opinions of your peers.....then discuss them? Yes, but I think what Neil (and I) are keen to avoid is to simply reprise a "he-said-she-said" version of a dispute on another discussion area. That hasn't happened, which is to the credit of the parties involved - thank you! - but the concern is real. It certainly wouldn't do anyone any favours to stoke a rivalry between different groups.
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Re: Bad Experience in Facebook Owners Group
[Re: bockers]
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18/05/2016 11:23
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don't miss it at all.
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It's the people posting that cause the arguments and spats!