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Tyre'd about tyres
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25/01/2016 04:23
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Slugcatcher1
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I'm about to lose my mind. After using a set of (very past their best) Pirelli P6000s it's time for a new set. I've lost count of the evenings I've spent reading review after review to be completely lost. And obviously, a tyre fitted to a BMW will not necessarily be the best for a coupe.
I note a lot of people rate Toyo T1R Proxes, but others also say the sidewalls are too soft. I can buy four of these on eBay with free delivery for £214, not including fitting, disposal etc, but still a decent price.
Uniroyal Rainsport 3s are £260 but a they seem to get slated on the reviews. Did like the idea of something that works in the rain though - my P6000s are terrifying.
If I had the money I'd be buying Michelins or Continentals but I'm not a rich man. The Yokohama AD08s look good but they work out at £350 before fitting.
I realise the debate on tyres has been done to death but I think it's always good to get people's opinions every few months, especially after the UK has just had the wettest 2 months ever!
Opinions please...
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Re: Tyre'd about tyres
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25/01/2016 13:35
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proccy
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I found Contis to be streets ahead too after a scary incident with my Toyo's.
Bottom line is, they're your only contact with the road so I always make sure I've got the very best even if it's a stretch - it's better than ending up in a ditch......
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25/01/2016 13:40
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patch234
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Yep, I had these on my Crono. Definitely the best tyre I've had.
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Re: Tyre'd about tyres
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#1561404
25/01/2016 13:40
25/01/2016 13:40
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Trappy
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Similar to Nigel and Proccy, I swore by an intermediate tyre for YEARS. I liked the FK453 but, as I found out when moving to a better tyre, it's only because they were the best I'd used at the time. I'm now on AD08Rs and they are leagues apart. For the price difference, it really is a no brainer.
I'd recommend Eagle F1s too. They're an even better all round tyre. The girlfriend has them on her 350Z and it feels incredibly planted in the wet. If you've ever driven one, you'll know what that means!
F****** b****** thing...
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27/01/2016 23:49
27/01/2016 23:49
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Definitely agree with some above comments. Get the best premium brand tyres you can, makes a huge difference.
I had Falken 452 on my coop for a while and car felt skittish when thrown around a bit and I thought they were rockhard! Then changed to Conti sport contact 5 all round (18") and the difference in the wet and dry was incredible, best thing I ever done to that car! Made driving it even more of a pleasure.
Then I had an M3 and that had Michelin Pilot super sport all round and I couldnt even get the car to slip or squerm in any way. Best tyres ever!
Only thing is with some of the best premium tyres is sizes, if your still on standard 16" wheels its a bit more tricky.
Bottom line though......stretch your budget you wont regret it.
Now in the 400+ bhp club!
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Re: Tyre'd about tyres
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28/01/2016 21:32
28/01/2016 21:32
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HR - would be interested in knowing how the Uniroyals go. Obviously you won't know how long they'll last but I'd like to know how they fare in the wet.
I understand what everyone else says about going for the best ones though. I've always believed in buying the best tyres but for as cheap as possible. Unfortunately the 'cheap as possible' bit doesn't seem that cheap at the moment.
One thing I have discovered is that you drive within the limits of a vehicle as it is set up, including the tyres. Perhaps having the best tyres encourages more enthusiastic driving in poorer conditions and having slightly lesser tyres makes you drive more sensibly? Or perhaps I'm just trying to talk myself into going for the cheaper option!
If I go for Toyos or Uniroyals I'll then be able to afford a service too which it will soon need. Then there'll be something else to pay out for no doubt...
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29/01/2016 12:30
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I'm Uniroyals handle they coners at pace in all weathers have had toyos before there to soft conti to hard
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29/01/2016 22:13
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I have falcon tires on mine... They are great in the dry or wet from my experience....
But I have been considering the toyo R888 ones with a view of running the car in summer only.
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#1562077
30/01/2016 16:22
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Never been a fan of the so called premium brands, whether on Coupe or on the daily car.
I am currently running my coupe on two mid range tyre brands.
Currently in the wet weather, Nexen N8000 are on the front, Falken Ziex 914 on the rear, till the summer comes, when they will be swapped front to rear and vice versa.
1999 Rosso Corsa 20VT ( Restored ) 2000 Rosso Alfa 916 Spider 2.0 T.S Lusso ( Under Restoration)
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02/02/2016 20:06
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I used Toyo R1Rs in the summer and the grip was amazing, especially with the 22mm Rear ARB. But while OK if roads damp, were a lot less good in heavy rain and you couldn't use, or even store them below a certain temperature (Seem to recall it being about 2 degrees C but could be wrong). Else the rubber would crack.
I tried P6000s and they were ditch finders, so I think almost any tyre will be an improvement.
I quite liked the ToyoT1Rs but as others have said, a Contisport or Michelin Pilot Sport will be a huge improvement on them.
Good luck with your choice, BTW Event Tyres are a good company to use, very competitive prices and they come to you to fit the tyres. I just bought 2x new rears for the 911 and price was competitive and fitter knew what he was doing.
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Re: Tyre'd about tyres
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13/02/2016 22:27
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proccy
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Trappy what are you having to pay for ad08's,and where from?
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14/02/2016 10:14
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Mine are in 235/40/17 so not going to help you...
F****** b****** thing...
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Re: Tyre'd about tyres
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19/02/2016 02:12
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Nello
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T1R's for me wore very quickly and I was not that impressed with the grip. Put Conti's on and the car is literally transformed. Not kidding it feels like I've replaced suspension components. Not just for grip but for ride quality as well. I would seriously reccomend trying to save for them. Superb rubber for the Coupe
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Re: Tyre'd about tyres
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19/02/2016 12:03
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Never been a fan of the so called premium brands, whether on Coupe or on the daily car.
I am currently running my coupe on two mid range tyre brands.
Currently in the wet weather, Nexen N8000 are on the front, Falken Ziex 914 on the rear, till the summer comes, when they will be swapped front to rear and vice versa.
Good luck when you put the Nexens on the rear - expect lift-off oversteer. I'd ditch them before they ditch you.
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Re: Tyre'd about tyres
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#1563899
19/02/2016 13:52
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proccy
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Never been a fan of the so called premium brands, whether on Coupe or on the daily car.
I am currently running my coupe on two mid range tyre brands.
Currently in the wet weather, Nexen N8000 are on the front, Falken Ziex 914 on the rear, till the summer comes, when they will be swapped front to rear and vice versa.
Good luck when you put the Nexens on the rear - expect lift-off oversteer. I'd ditch them before they ditch you. Agree about the Nexens, pure ditch-finders when under any duress
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Re: Tyre'd about tyres
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19/02/2016 23:13
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Never been a fan of the so called premium brands, whether on Coupe or on the daily car.
I am currently running my coupe on two mid range tyre brands.
Currently in the wet weather, Nexen N8000 are on the front, Falken Ziex 914 on the rear, till the summer comes, when they will be swapped front to rear and vice versa.
Good luck when you put the Nexens on the rear - expect lift-off oversteer. I'd ditch them before they ditch you. Never had any problems with N8000, worked great on an Alfa 147 GTA for 5 years.
1999 Rosso Corsa 20VT ( Restored ) 2000 Rosso Alfa 916 Spider 2.0 T.S Lusso ( Under Restoration)
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Re: Tyre'd about tyres
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19/02/2016 23:16
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Never been a fan of the so called premium brands, whether on Coupe or on the daily car.
I am currently running my coupe on two mid range tyre brands.
Currently in the wet weather, Nexen N8000 are on the front, Falken Ziex 914 on the rear, till the summer comes, when they will be swapped front to rear and vice versa.
Good luck when you put the Nexens on the rear - expect lift-off oversteer. I'd ditch them before they ditch you. Agree about the Nexens, pure ditch-finders when under any duress Could say the same about Falken 452's or 914' s as they are **** in the wet.
1999 Rosso Corsa 20VT ( Restored ) 2000 Rosso Alfa 916 Spider 2.0 T.S Lusso ( Under Restoration)
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Re: Tyre'd about tyres
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20/02/2016 13:23
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proccy
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Never been a fan of the so called premium brands, whether on Coupe or on the daily car.
I am currently running my coupe on two mid range tyre brands.
Currently in the wet weather, Nexen N8000 are on the front, Falken Ziex 914 on the rear, till the summer comes, when they will be swapped front to rear and vice versa.
Good luck when you put the Nexens on the rear - expect lift-off oversteer. I'd ditch them before they ditch you. Agree about the Nexens, pure ditch-finders when under any duress Could say the same about Falken 452's or 914' s as they are **** in the wet. Indeed and driving styles can affect how they behave in any given conditions, and why I will only go for Contis, Toyo's etc - it's my experience having used Falkens, Nankang's, Kumho to name a few that I won't trust again and especially asi have my kids with me regularly. Each to their own
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Re: Tyre'd about tyres
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20/02/2016 13:45
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Yep I'm with Proccy when he mentions driving styles. Personally on the Coop I've always put on Conti's apart from the odd occasion when a bargain came up & purchased what I thought was a good buy.
In saying all that, when I first purchased the Coop the car had a cheap well worn pair of infinity front tyres which performed not too badly,surprisingly much better than I'd hoped for in the dry & in the snow. Obviously I wasn't going too fast & overdoing things, but giving it the beans non the less. Obviously the big lump over the front wheels has an effect.
I'm an old git & happy with it,most of the time
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Re: Tyre'd about tyres
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21/02/2016 20:40
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The point of driving styles is very true and I accept that. I am too old now to be a boy racer, once upon a time, but more infrequently now.
I have various tyre brands on my Alfa's since i was 17, my first was an Alfa 33 with remould tyres, they where scary ! Many a Alfa 159 Ti owner fits these cheap EP tyres as the tyre size choice is limited, again these are scary in the wet. I have had Yoko's on 155 V6, they were brill, but the same tyre on a 164 QV did not work at all and wore out rapidly.
So to conclude from my perspective, the Nexen N8000 tyre worked very well on a 147 GTA, i have to admit, works as well on my 20VT to date, even in the wet / slushy snow roads. I cannot rely on the Falken 914's in the wet, they are awful, hence they are demoted to the rear, till the summer comes where i will see what they are really like.
1999 Rosso Corsa 20VT ( Restored ) 2000 Rosso Alfa 916 Spider 2.0 T.S Lusso ( Under Restoration)
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21/02/2016 23:13
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Accelera Alphas
had these on Cinquecento, Stilo and currently on Coupe 20v. dry grip is brilliant, wet is better than you would expect, they dont let go suddenly when driving in a spritely manner (unless the road is crappy, but thats physics) at no point have i regretted buying them or wished id bought something double the price. also tyre life is good (cant give you a mileage figure because ive not worn a new set out yet)
Coincidentally i'll be sticking a set of Accelera Phi R on the 159 this week.
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