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Re: new series of top gear
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12/03/2015 22:01
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David Cameron is sticking his neck out a long way it appears....dangerous to get involved I would say. Nah it's not like there is any history of any outspoken Yorkshire BBC personality having friendship and support from a number 10 incumbent is there? Oh hang on...
Gone Audi mad!
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Re: new series of top gear
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12/03/2015 22:19
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Coogan makes some good points. There is a tendency to make light of underlying prejudice and make it into a joke.
I did think he contradicted himself about TG using stereotypes, when he himself says:
"I can tell you from my own experience, living in the US, Mexicans work themselves to the bone doing all the dirty thankless jobs that the white middle-class natives won't do."
He may have good intentions, but this in itself is a stereotype, and does nothing to dispel the idea that Mexicans are down at heal slaves to the middle classes. I didn't read it like that at all. I think he was saying that rather than being feckless and lazy, it is Mexicans that do all the hard and dirty jobs. I don't think he intimates that all Mexicans do that or that's the only thing Mexicans do, rather that Mexicans are prepared to work harder than the typical US middle classes. If anything it is they, the Middle classes, who are being stereotyped.
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Re: new series of top gear
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16/03/2015 17:32
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so looks like Guy Martin is to replace Clarkson on topgear .
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Re: new series of top gear
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16/03/2015 17:59
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Re: new series of top gear
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17/03/2015 07:39
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I'm just trying to imagine GM doing it...
"Right, right, yeah, proper job, really nice that, proper! And you, thingie, Stig, get that helmet off and let's have a look at your face."
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Re: new series of top gear
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17/03/2015 08:20
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He'd only appear on TG if they changed the format to include Volvo trucks.
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Re: new series of top gear
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17/03/2015 08:38
17/03/2015 08:38
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A petrolhead like Rowan Atkinson who can also continuously develop the comedy/entertainment content would be the direction I would like to see.
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Re: new series of top gear
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17/03/2015 09:14
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IIRC, Rowan Atkinson is painfully shy outside of his on-screen characters - an "unscripted" magazine show probably wouldn't work well with him, despite his petrolhead qualifications Chris Evans would be the obvious male choice - I really like Guy Martin, but I don't think it would work Still think Jodie Kidd would be worth a try....
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Re: new series of top gear
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17/03/2015 10:27
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TG is a sort-of Hollywood for cars. It revolves around motoring jewellery.
Going the "Pistonhead TV" route has the associated danger of returning TG to a more normal car program which is what most TG fans don't seem to want.
On German TV, we get a lot of this type of "please all" programs, some with a more serious bent and others being more a more TG comedy copy. Many of the programs also look into used bargains, collectors cars, etc. Good if you like what they are reviewing at the time, but dull if they are comparing used, budget, mini people carriers!
Also, car programs around the world seem to be of a much higher standard these days and I think the BBC probably has to be given a lot of credit for its filming standards. The basic direction of TG is not that bad, but it is too rigid and has become stale. Apart from the filming, which is not so unique anymore, TG does not come across as a better standard of TV today. New blood could well return it to being good again.
1997 20V 2000 V6 manual S-Type and 2011 5.0 XKR 2016 Tucson 1.6T AWD 2018 Mazda2 GT
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Re: new series of top gear
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17/03/2015 13:30
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Don't think anybody can replace clarkson! Let's be honest if you like top gear you are generally entertained by the laddish banter that goes on and the amazing road trips Clarkson can come across as a clown at times but there is usually a serious twist to him on car reviews and contrary to what has been said previously I think he comes across really well on the road trips and documentaries with a factual but fun manner The Falklands road trip for one was brilliant anyway enough said on clarkson
Nobody can fill his shoes Guy as nice as he is would drown trying to fill the roll he just does not seem to have the ability to be nasty to anybody in a funny way! there is only one Jeremy clarkson and anybody that tries to fill that roll would only be imitating clarkson
So the best way forward for me is for the 3 of them to quit and start up on a different channel and let the bbc go back to the likes of tiff! Oh my god! Anyway not sure if clarkson is hinting at quitting his style of entertainment or just quitting the bbc Hope he comes back somewhere and yes I suppose adverts would be annoying but looks like that's the only option I can see! Nail firmly on the head. NEVER in the month of Sundays are you going to replicate Clarksons shenanigans or even come close with anyone else in a similar set up...FACT. Top Gear is dead when Jeremy walks...End of. There was a tiny bit of the boy still in me that thought this was indeed a big advertising scam, but..... Like it or not the Top Gear setup as it was will cease. As H_R says only way forward for the three TG chaps is another channel to even come near to pleasing the fans.
I'm an old git & happy with it,most of the time
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Re: new series of top gear
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17/03/2015 14:52
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The fact that Clarkson himself apparently reported the confrontation shortly before his contract was due to expire, suggests that he may have been looking for a way to get out of Top Gear without letting his fans know that he was bored with it.
He has made his millions out of it and "Just look - The nasty old BBC have kicked me out and ruined all my fans' viewing time"
And "Sorry Hammond and Mays but the BBC have killed your jobs off when they fired me."
I have been accused of cynicism before.
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We must all do our part for the planet. I unplugged a row of electric cars that nobody was using.
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Re: new series of top gear
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17/03/2015 15:15
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The fact that Clarkson himself apparently reported the confrontation shortly before his contract was due to expire, suggests that he may have been looking for a way to get out of Top Gear without letting his fans know that he was bored with it.
He has made his millions out of it and "Just look - The nasty old BBC have kicked me out and ruined all my fans' viewing time"
And "Sorry Hammond and Mays but the BBC have killed your jobs off when they fired me."
I have been accused of cynicism before. Bored, or, as I said, embarking on a political career!
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Re: new series of top gear
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17/03/2015 16:11
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Big_Muzzie
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The USA had Arnie, the UK have Clarkson!
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Re: new series of top gear
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#1530225
17/03/2015 16:26
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Emjay
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More likely, reporting it yourself goes to your credit.
Of interest is that the punchbag is not saying very much, and what is said is via a lawyer.
Does our law condemn a man without first hearing him to find out what he has been doing? (John 7:51)
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Re: new series of top gear
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17/03/2015 17:32
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I've looked up the punch bag, but came up with limited information about him. Where did he come from & what has he done?
I know this has no basis but his photograph of late makes him look a bit odd.
I'm an old git & happy with it,most of the time
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Re: new series of top gear
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17/03/2015 17:46
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I hope TG isn't cancelled. Where else are we going to see a P1, 918 and La Ferrari showdown
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Re: new series of top gear
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20/03/2015 21:21
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Just for the hell of it..... A million & still counting, a stig in a tank, all for Jeremy. Well it really doesn't matter what you think about Top Gear, fans of the show their strength. Can't remember such a strong following from the general TV watching public for a show never mind a fuel filled lads mag type one. Has to count for something.....
I'm an old git & happy with it,most of the time
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Re: new series of top gear
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21/03/2015 19:58
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Is it 'As cunning as a fox who's just been appointed Professor of Cunning at Oxford University?'
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