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what tweeter?
#1529527
13/03/2015 10:31
13/03/2015 10:31
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pkaps
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Hi, i'm in the middle of installing a new system with an old but good Pioneer DEH-P4100 SD headunit and I'm in search for tweeters to replace the oem that apparently are missing (thats how I got the car from the previous owner. May have been missing from the start!) Any ideas/links?
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13/03/2015 12:52
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Just tweeters is a tricky one. Do you have the factory door speakers still connected?
The safest bet would be to buy a decent 165mm component set where the tweeters are matched to the bass units and connected with the accompanying crossover box. 60-100 EURs buys reasonable stuff these days which will be a fair bit better than the factory originals. They were very simple but adequate. Modern stuff can sound a lot cleaner and dynamic.
Whatever you do, you will have to fix the new tweeters to the underside of the dashtop grill.
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13/03/2015 21:30
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They look quite tasty and cost effective. I've not heard of Helix before, but judging by there upper price range they are pretty good quality? Do you know if the tweeters will actually fit under the dash grills?
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16/03/2015 11:23
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See if you can find something along these lines: http://www.ebay.de/itm/RAINBOW-Auto-2-We...=item3cc69e480dWill be a significant step up from the Helix for not much more outlay. I have Rainbow/AIV Green Power SLX 165 Deluxe speakers in my Coupe from a couple of years back and they are very good and fit with minimum customizing (tweeters only). The green a is bit odd though! In Germany, Rainbow speakers were an option on the Coupe according to the brochure from 1996/7. Focal speakers are rather nice too Reference: http://www.hifitest.de/bestenliste/car-hifi-lautsprecher_16cm_30
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01/04/2015 15:40
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My understanding is that they are all universal fitments so you have to do the adjustments or modifications for the tweeters. You may even place them on the dashboard where the dash grills are. This is a guess from my side, don't actually know if it works out but should be interesting. I think the door speakers should fit fine.
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02/04/2015 09:58
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At worst, you may have to modify the mounting under the tweeter grill and heat glue the new tweeter to it. Not too difficult if you take your time and use the most appropriate mounting ring that comes with the tweeters.
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02/04/2015 16:30
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I removed my original tweeters (still got them somewhere) but have now fitted separate tweeters (Canton I think) on the floor in the footwells, pointing up. They came with a little housing that I screwed using a self tapper into a small piece of MDF under the carpet. Got the idea from another forum user ages ago.
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08/04/2015 13:25
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Ideally, tweeters need to be at ear level and in direct line of sight of the ears. They are mainly responsible for imaging so, clearly, tweeter location will play a big role in this. FIAT's solution of bouncing the high frequencies off the windscreen is a reasonable compromise as glass is a good reflector at these frequencies.
Floor level tweeters is rather unconventional. Do you not get an image that places the singer somewhere under the engine?
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08/04/2015 14:44
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Not at all, but that might be due to my poor hearing at high frequency, or perhaps I spend more time trying to imagine what's around the next corner or what other driver's are going to do, instead of trying to imagine a sound stage and where the instruments and singers are...?
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