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Re: Flight MH 370
[Re: Moleman]
#1479035
15/03/2014 09:25
15/03/2014 09:25
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Shifty
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The news this morning adds to the confusion, tracking systems deliberately turned off, would have required in depth knowledge of these systems.
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Re: Flight MH 370
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#1479052
15/03/2014 12:44
15/03/2014 12:44
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TbirdX
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It's all getting very strange. It now, sort of, points towards a hijack/planenap, but then where are the demands/ransom demand if it was?
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Re: Flight MH 370
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#1479089
15/03/2014 18:00
15/03/2014 18:00
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TbirdX
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If we head down conspiracy lane, I'd think you'd have to ask who or what was aboard. Maybe there are demands. Doesn't mean the general public would necessarily know. Given the shambolic nature of the way it's been handled, I doubt tptb out there could keep anything a secret for long.
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Re: Flight MH 370
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#1479132
15/03/2014 22:19
15/03/2014 22:19
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Big_Muzzie
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It's been stolen and we'll see what he'll a 777 can create shortly. Not that I'm a pessimist but it all feels wrong.
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Re: Flight MH 370
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#1479221
16/03/2014 13:00
16/03/2014 13:00
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AndrewR
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According to BBC news the authorities are now talking to any country that the plane may have flown over... Malaysian officials are contacting countries including Kazakhstan, Uzbekistan, Kyrgyzstan, Turkmenistan, Pakistan, Bangladesh, India, China, Myanmar, Laos, Vietnam, Thailand, Indonesia, Australia and France. If you don't know if your plane is France or Australia then you're pretty f***ed. Also interesting that they're talking to all of the -stans, but no mention of Russia.
Dear monos, a secret truth.
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Re: Flight MH 370
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#1479268
16/03/2014 20:49
16/03/2014 20:49
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Big_Muzzie
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Do these planes come complete with crew and passengers?
I find the while thing scary as hell! The BBC news this evening showed how easy it was for even a novice to switch things off and redirect the plane.
Thinking long and hard, it can only be theft. But to what end?
There can't be a black market for passenger planes of that size, you can't sell a plane with no history and how do you maintain something like that? Then how do you use it without drawing attention?
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Re: Flight MH 370
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#1479282
16/03/2014 21:54
16/03/2014 21:54
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Shifty
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Shifty
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Incredible, I stupidly thought that every move anyone made was tracked, all calls listened to and yet 270 odd people can disappear and the people who I thought would know haven't got a clue!
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Re: Flight MH 370
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#1479292
16/03/2014 22:26
16/03/2014 22:26
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There can't be a black market for passenger planes of that size, you can't sell a plane with no history and how do you maintain something like that?
There's probably a fly-by-night character somewhere. Not sure where atm though....
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Re: Flight MH 370
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#1479527
18/03/2014 13:04
18/03/2014 13:04
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ali_hire
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Thinking long and hard, it can only be theft. But to what end? Perhaps the plane is not what any thief was after. The plane had 227 passengers aboard but the capacity is 280ish. Obviously not all flights are always full but there's 50 people's worth of weight not on board. If the average person weighs 70kg and has 20kg of baggage allowance that's around 4.5 tonnes of cargo which could have been aboard. What's 4.5 tonne of gold worth?
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Re: Flight MH 370
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#1479528
18/03/2014 13:15
18/03/2014 13:15
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Re: Flight MH 370
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#1479541
18/03/2014 14:29
18/03/2014 14:29
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AndrewR
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Dear Mr Barnacle,
It is most glorious to make your acquaintance and to have the god given opportunity to do business with you.
My name is crown prince Klonsarc of Myanmar and I have in my possession 4,500 1kg bars of gold valued at $180,000,000 (one-hundred and eighty million US dollars).
Unfortunately, because of export restrictions I cannot get them out of the country, so I am looking for honest and trustworthy people, like your good self, who have a UK or US bank account to...
Dear monos, a secret truth.
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Re: Flight MH 370
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#1479572
18/03/2014 16:36
18/03/2014 16:36
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Posts: 116 Lancashire
Moleman
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An interesting article that nicely sums up what is known so far, without getting to lost down conspiracy lane. Something that interests me though, they know where and when MH370 was last tracked on Malaysian Military radar, and presumably its approximate altitude and heading. They also have the time of the last Inmarsat ‘ping’ somewhere on the massive northern or southern hemisphere arcs that have been shown. But they must also have at least 5-6 other hourly ‘pings’ that can surly be pinned down to similar arcs, which would allow further calculations on flight path and approx. final location at the last ‘ping’. They must know the distance between these arcs so surly they would be able to work out (with the timings) if the aircraft was flying almost along the arcs or away from or towards the point on the earth the satellite is above. This would surly rule out big chunks of the final arcs that have been published. Also it has been stated that the aircraft could have flown in any direction for up to an hour after its last 'ping'.
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Re: Flight MH 370
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#1479589
18/03/2014 17:44
18/03/2014 17:44
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patch234
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patch234
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Who had an iPhone on the flight? Find my iPhone! Nothing more to add
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Re: Flight MH 370
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#1479597
18/03/2014 18:08
18/03/2014 18:08
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Shifty
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One report I just read suggested that the plane was flying high (46,000ft) and then very low, possible explanation is the pilot trying to shake potential hyjackers about abit...not sure they'll ever find out.
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Re: Flight MH 370
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#1479605
18/03/2014 18:44
18/03/2014 18:44
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RoyH
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I like this take...... here Roy
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Re: Flight MH 370
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#1479613
18/03/2014 19:18
18/03/2014 19:18
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Posts: 116 Lancashire
Moleman
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On a journey
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I like this take...... here Roy I sore this theory earlier today and its thoroughly plausible.
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Re: Flight MH 370
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#1480757
26/03/2014 11:13
26/03/2014 11:13
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Shifty
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Shifty
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This was already a shambles but it's now turned into a complete farce...It now appears that the aircraft reached 45,000ft shortly after take off, apparently the oxygen would have only lasted 12 minutes and the pilot (who ever that was) stayed at that height for 25 minutes...
My first question would be why wasn't this highlighted anywhere? Surely it would be easy for a system to kick off various alarms if a aircraft went either too high or low? Send a couple of jets up to find out whats going on?
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Re: Flight MH 370
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#1480767
26/03/2014 12:21
26/03/2014 12:21
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Shifty
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Re: Flight MH 370
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#1480768
26/03/2014 12:29
26/03/2014 12:29
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AndrewR
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There's your problem, you're using the Express as a news source.
Dear monos, a secret truth.
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Re: Flight MH 370
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#1480770
26/03/2014 12:39
26/03/2014 12:39
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Shifty
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Shifty
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I knew you would kick off about this, all we need is Jim to dive in now and we'll have both of you in the net
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