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Re: F1 2013 - 2014 season discussion
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19/02/2014 13:18
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What... you don't mean... there could be some *racing* this year? Let's not get ahead of ourselves!
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Re: F1 2013 - 2014 season discussion
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20/02/2014 18:44
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Well, Red Bull finally got a decent number of laps in the bag. Posted a decent time, considering today was really a shakedown for them. There doesn't seem to be much wrong with the car speed-wise at least.
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Re: F1 2013 - 2014 season discussion
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21/02/2014 14:20
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Jenson has got engaged to his long time girlfriend Jessica. After the death of his father, I thought he might. Good lad.
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Re: F1 2013 - 2014 season discussion
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21/02/2014 15:02
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Red Bull only got 28 laps done today due to a new mechanical problem.
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Re: F1 2013 - 2014 season discussion
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21/02/2014 15:45
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As someone said yesterday (Vergne, I think) - the McLaren and Mercedes are quick, whatever tyres or fuel load they are using. Force India and Sauber are also looking in good nick, with Williams and Lotus looking like they have potential. Tough as ever for the lower-order teams. Red Bull and Toro Rosso must be getting a little frustrated, even if they aren't yet worried. Good news for Button on and off the track.
Forgot Ferrari: car looks pretty quick and neatly packaged and apparently needs less cooling than other power units, allowing sleaker body. But a few niggles are still hampering testing.
Last edited by Jim_Clennell; 21/02/2014 15:47. Reason: Who's that team in red again?
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Re: F1 2013 - 2014 season discussion
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21/02/2014 20:58
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Force India and Sauber are a bit of an unknown in my opinion and Williams look to be in better shape than both of them, which I'm very happy to say. Sauber have a big aero package (almost a B-spec car) coming for the last test, but I personally think Williams would make a good bet for a podium in Melbourne. Lotus are still a complete mystery as they've yet to do a decent number of laps and they have lost a lot of good people jumping ship to other teams, with a fair few of them finding homes at Williams.
Yeah, Ferrari do look quite good, but they are around 0.2sec per lap slower at least than Mercedes and Mclaren on a race simulation run. I pointed out at the cars launch that it had noticeably smaller rad inlets, indicating that the Ferrari powertrain requires less cooling. The Sauber uses the same powertrain and they also have reletively small inlets too.
The pace of the Mercedes has been really impressive so far. Especially when you consider that it hasn't yet got anything really trick at the rear of the car like the Williams or Mclaren. I would expect most teams to adopt the Williams solution rather than Mclaren's, as the latter will require a hell of lot of work to retro fit.
I've been looking more into the Mclaren's trick rear suspension and it's really, really clever, especially as it drops drag as speed increases, by opening up the slot gap between the 'bell-shaped' rear wishbone arms. What none of the tech articles have picked up on so far though, is that in medium and high speed corners, a certain amount of 'drag steer' effect will be induced. It's obviously a secondary effect, but still worth having.
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Re: F1 2013 - 2014 season discussion
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22/02/2014 12:16
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A 1:33.2 from Rosberg in the Mercedes this morning. Hell's teeth...
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Re: F1 2013 - 2014 season discussion
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22/02/2014 13:50
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Only 15 laps from Red Bull today. If it wasn't panic stations after Jerez, I think it's safe to say that is no longer the case. They (together with Lotus) have now lost two thirds of their entire preseason testing having done almost no meaningful running. Meanwhile, Mercedes and Mclaren are pumping in full race simulations. Although Rosberg caused two red flags today, so the Mercedes still looks slightly fragile.
Sauber, Toro Rosso and Force India have all had big reliability problems today.
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Re: F1 2013 - 2014 season discussion
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22/02/2014 15:27
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And Kimi ends the day with a spin and has beached his car.
Slightly scary pace from Rosberg in the Mercedes today. I wonder if it was the first time the Mercedes powertrain has been ran at full power.
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Re: F1 2013 - 2014 season discussion
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22/02/2014 18:39
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A 1:33.2 from Rosberg in the Mercedes this morning. Hell's teeth... How does that compare with historical times?
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Re: F1 2013 - 2014 season discussion
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22/02/2014 22:17
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A 1:33.2 from Rosberg in the Mercedes this morning. Hell's teeth... How does that compare with historical times? Rosberg's 2013 Bahrain pole position time was 1min 32.330secs. The 2014 cars are actually looking quicker than last years.
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Re: F1 2013 - 2014 season discussion
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23/02/2014 21:04
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A 1:33.2 from Rosberg in the Mercedes this morning. Hell's teeth... How does that compare with historical times? Rosberg's 2013 Bahrain pole position time was 1min 32.330secs. The 2014 cars are actually looking quicker than last years. Very interesting!
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Re: F1 2013 - 2014 season discussion
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26/02/2014 12:53
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There is. I didn't used to like Mark Hughes' writing, but he has done some good stuff for Motorsport.
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Re: F1 2013 - 2014 season discussion
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26/02/2014 13:05
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Just been reading the Bahrain test summary on the BBC website. Apparently Lotus are "happy with the pace of the car". It's 8 seconds off the pace .
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