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F1 2013 - 2014 season discussion
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02/12/2013 11:43
02/12/2013 11:43
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Jim_Clennell
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OK, that's done and dusted, now it looks like the remaining seats have been decided too:
The Quantum money never arrived at Lotus, so neither did Hulkenberg; Lotus have signed Maldonado (to nobody's surprise, but most people's disappointment). You never know, though, maybe Lotus can turn him from an idiot with speed into a race-winner. They've almost done it with Grosjean after all.
Massa has Malonado's old seat at Williams, Hulkenberg has gone back to Force India, though I'm not sure why it's better than Sauber (possibly the powertrain? or possibly the cash...), alongside Perez, leaving whiny Paul di Resta without a drive. He is being touted as a possible Indycar candidate (as a harsh variation on the old FILTH acronym, FIFOTI - Failed in Formula One Try Indycar). Sauber's lineup will probably be Sutil and Gutierrez. Back to the top and Red Bull of course will be hoping that Ricciardo is fast - but not Seb-botheringly quick; Ferrari and Mercedes look set for a mighty tussle as both have driver lineups that will always be looking to score decent points. McLaren? Who knows? If the car is good and suits Button, they could be back up there, if not, I think it'll be his final season. If Magnussen outpoints Button, ditto. The only way I can see Button in F1 in 2015 is if he has a stellar season in 2014 or if the car and Magnussen are so underwhelming that Alonso won't touch Macca with a bargepole in 2015. I fervently hope the former is true!
I can't be bothered to think about the lower order teams, but they will have mainly pay drivers...
Getting excited about learning more on the technical side for 2014...
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Re: F1 2013 - 2014 season discussion
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02/12/2013 12:05
02/12/2013 12:05
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Red Bull of course will be hoping that Ricciardo is fast - but not Seb-botheringly quick; If we have a repeat if this year it won't really matter how quick or slow he is. They only needed mark to pick up 36 points this year to win the constructors. I'm surprised they don't just save themselves a heap of cash and just run one car .
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Re: F1 2013 - 2014 season discussion
[Re: Jim_Clennell]
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02/12/2013 15:27
02/12/2013 15:27
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So what did I miss in the last 2 races in the US and Brazil? Apart from Vettel winning both races and Mark driving around without his skid lid after coming 2nd in Brazil.
Your car is Usain Bolt with wellies
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Re: F1 2013 - 2014 season discussion
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02/12/2013 15:31
02/12/2013 15:31
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So what did I miss in the last 2 races in the US and Brazil? Apart from Vettel winning both races and Mark driving around without his skid lid after coming 2nd in Brazil. Er, that was it, I think! US race was the first GP I haven't watched for years. Brazil was ok, apart from the tediously predictable winner.
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Re: F1 2013 - 2014 season discussion
[Re: Jim_Clennell]
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03/12/2013 13:14
03/12/2013 13:14
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Weber's comment on that video was just what I have been thinking! These rules really help Vettel, not hinder, providing Red Bull build a car that's decently reliable, reasonably quick I think he'll still be the one to beat.
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Re: F1 2013 - 2014 season discussion
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03/12/2013 16:55
03/12/2013 16:55
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Or Lotus - assuming they can keep going at the level they were at.
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Re: F1 2013 - 2014 season discussion
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10/12/2013 08:53
10/12/2013 08:53
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Maybe he'll put some special stages in too or if you collect enough rings / collect the correct item from the mysterious "?" box you'll get a super boost?
What I'd like to see is a kind of short cut but it was hellish dangerous, maybe a short rally style gravel curve on top of a big cliff. The signage could say "this way to beat Redbull, if you dare". Obviously it would need painting in special paint that Germans named after water can't see.....
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Re: F1 2013 - 2014 season discussion
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10/12/2013 09:15
10/12/2013 09:15
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Double points for the final race of the season.
Seriously?
Anyone remember when F1 was a proper sport? Remember playing your Joker in Jeux sans Frontieres? Utter nonsense
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Re: F1 2013 - 2014 season discussion
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#1462606
10/12/2013 10:24
10/12/2013 10:24
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Maybe Stuart Hall should commentate - just to add even more common sense! He may be busy for a while Well not busy, but occupied (fnahh fnahh..)
"RK's way seems the most sensible to me". ali_hire 16 Dec 2010
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Re: F1 2013 - 2014 season discussion
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10/12/2013 14:59
10/12/2013 14:59
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I think it would be a useful addition to the rules if every driver had a dog in the car. They are supposed to reflect road car technology after all. They should also have to spend half of the race talking to their team on a hand-held mobile phone instead of using the pre-fitted but (in road car terms) rarely used bluetooth option.
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Re: F1 2013 - 2014 season discussion
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10/12/2013 16:12
10/12/2013 16:12
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Double points! Crazy - I thought this was supposed to be the pinnacle of motorsport not Play Your Cards Right!
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Re: F1 2013 - 2014 season discussion
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10/12/2013 16:55
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I guess the double points gives:
1) hope at the end of the season 2) makes the teams work on improvements to the end 3) err ok 2 points..
The whole point is incentivising, sadly when you have absolute domination then extra points works in the opposite direction and everyone gives up. I think that BTCC ideas are good, weight penalties, reverse grid and points for other achievements - it would be good for a constructor point for NOT having a car blow up, tyre fail, quickest pit stop etc just to mix it up a bit for the lower teams as they could achieve this and give them all a boost!
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Re: F1 2013 - 2014 season discussion
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10/12/2013 17:23
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TimR
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Double points! Crazy - I thought this was supposed to be the pinnacle of motorsport not Play Your Cards Right! I've always felt that it can't be the pinnacle of motorsport when at least half of the drivers are there because they're paying for their drives rather than on merit.
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Re: F1 2013 - 2014 season discussion
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10/12/2013 18:32
10/12/2013 18:32
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Double points! Crazy - I thought this was supposed to be the pinnacle of motorsport not Play Your Cards Right! I've always felt that it can't be the pinnacle of motorsport when at least half of the drivers are there because they're paying for their drives rather than on merit. Yep 100% agree.
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