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Mr Tinworm and I get acquainted
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04/06/2013 15:15
04/06/2013 15:15
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Pondman
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Over the bank holiday weekend, I thought I'd take a look at my fuel pump due to priming issues, so I removed the base carpet and spotted a bit of surface rust around the wiring gromit and the fuel pump cover, no worries, just a dab of rust preventer an we'll be all sorted. I'll just give the boot a wipe whilst the carpet is out. I thought, good job I did! I found 3 panel holes that were letting in moisture. Tell-tail dirty streaks plus rust around the edges of the holes. Further to that as I got further into the task (removing side carpet panels), I discovered bubbling of the paint just coming out from under the sealant that joins the inner wheelarch pannel to the boot floor. I decided to investigate further..........
Part 2 tonight.
Last edited by Pondman; 05/06/2013 01:44. Reason: Spelling, thanks Chris. Blame phone predictive text ;-)
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Re: Mr Tinworm and I get acquainted
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04/06/2013 16:59
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Ross, What are you doing with dirty steaks in your boot and how come you found that we all had some at the Tribute Rally?! Seriously, this will run and run- it's the start of the perennial sleepless nights that I had 30 years ago when deeply into Triumph Vitesse ownership!
352bhp+317ftlb/1310Kg=Joy!
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Re: Mr Tinworm and I get acquainted
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04/06/2013 18:59
04/06/2013 18:59
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tim42
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Oh dear... I've been waiting for this one. I also have some seriously dirty steaks ( ) in my boot. The Tribute Rally was a very good day apart from finding out the the rear end of my Coupe was about to fall off. Mine was the worst there; some serious ingress of Fe3O4 above the rear wheel arches in the boot. Just waiting for the next installment. Come on Ross, give me your worst
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Re: Mr Tinworm and I get acquainted
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04/06/2013 20:48
04/06/2013 20:48
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pstruck
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The boot in my coupe had what initially appeared to be some surface rust under the joint sealant. The true extent was somewhat worse when I started prodding and tapping around with a screwdriver! Mind you, it was nothing that couldn't be put right thanks to some quality cutting out and welding by one of our friendly specialists (thanks Joe)..
Although it's not nice finding rust, it is better found now and the full extent exposed so that it can be dealt with before it gets any worse.
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Re: Mr Tinworm and I get acquainted - Part 2
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05/06/2013 01:41
05/06/2013 01:41
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Pondman
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Part 2So I started to dig the mastic out with a flat bladed screwdriver (effective method) off-side first, then nearside. It came out very easily due to the fact it was bonded onto a very loose surface, RUST! I was very surprised at the extent of the rot as from the outside bar a small amount of bubbling, (not noticed before) there were no sign of rust around the join/seam at all. see pic below. It also shows the small hole that lets in some moisture. ----------- This is the after pic, having removed all loose rust crust and wire brushed. (to keep the wire brush scratching to a minimum, I used one of those narrow red handled ones and before use, I hammered it even narrower, just right ) The off-side seemed worse for some reason there is an area 2/3 the way along the inner wheel arch that seem the worst area. I was able to push the screwdriver through the weak steel! but as you can see from the pic the rust is equally as bad as the other side under the panel seal. All areas have now been treated with Granville Rust Converter as a temporary measure to stop it for the time being. Allowing me to investigate further on the outside/underside to see what is going on before I make a plan of action. There was also a hole above the fuel pump/sender hatch which was letting water in too. The final area in the boot to get sorted was a small area under the tail lights on the near side. For whatever reason the rust has just appeared there with no prior damage or surface disturbance. All the leaky holes will be masticed up and the rust probably be cut out and new angle beads welded in, in their place, then re-sealed and sprayed. That's the plan!? Over last weekend at the Pininfarina Show, I looked at probably 6-7 Coupe boot seam seals and every single one had rust issues to a greater or lesser degree So PLEASE, everyone, go out with a torch lift up your boot carpets and side trims and have a good look and a prod. Caught now, it's an easy-ish fix. left to rot it will mean an MOT failure and a lot of welding. if not the end of your belove-ed. P.S. This effects all models of the coupe! Rust does not disciminate If anybody else has any other RUST issues it might be worth having a dedicated thread secion? in "General Maintenance" to add all findings together to try and make a catalogue of the places to keep an eye on. All our coops are getting more mature and their sure to get more rusty
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Re: Mr Tinworm and I get acquainted - Part 2
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05/06/2013 08:54
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tim42
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I will get out tonight and have a look at the other two....
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Re: Mr Tinworm and I get acquainted
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07/06/2013 22:26
07/06/2013 22:26
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Pondman
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So have you looked yet? Go on I dare you.........
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Re: Mr Tinworm and I get acquainted
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10/06/2013 14:41
10/06/2013 14:41
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So have you looked yet? Go on I dare you......... Says smugly ... (for now, until I find some) .. Yes, I have and I don't have any rust! Looked in the boot and around all the wheel arches and it's almost as good as the day it was made. No rust, not even a bubble or two. Even under the bonnet, I only have surface rust; a bit of flaking paint on the bonnet release panel and some by the horns, but I usually try and keep those areas treated and painted, so fingers crossed. It's probably because I now keep it covered in Winter and I think that was the case in the past before I bought it.
Paul W.
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Re: Mr Tinworm and I get acquainted
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10/06/2013 18:11
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tim42
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Paul, just checked the boot of your old Sprinty. More paint than the outside and no rust.... Just need to check the Scottie now, after I've charged up my pacemaker
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Re: Mr Tinworm and I get acquainted
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10/06/2013 19:34
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Pondman
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Thanks for the heads up on other areas of concern t0m0 That's what this thread is all about, letting people know where to look and inspect for future problems. Anybody else wish to post their observations?
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Re: Mr Tinworm and I get acquainted
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27/06/2013 21:33
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I checked the boot area in the Scottie today and I could find no evidence of corrosion; only 26p in change that must have fallen out of my sports bag. Is it my imagination, or do the later models tend to have more corrosion issues? I've also heard that certain Coupe colours have more issues than others.... any opinions on this?
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Re: Mr Tinworm and I get acquainted
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27/06/2013 21:53
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The above is with the arch liner off The above as you can see is daylight showing through the floor. Seeing this now prob 1 in 20 coupes. Check your arse end for holes folks.
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Re: Mr Tinworm and I get acquainted
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28/06/2013 20:38
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JBT, I have checked my arse end. No hole............ It seems to have moved to the front and side ;-) Don't worry mate,in time the boot will be back to its normal self. Just don't poke it in mean time
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Re: Mr Tinworm and I get acquainted
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29/06/2013 14:49
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Any ideas of the cause of this ? What rust? H2O + O2 normally does for naked steel. Shite getting trapped between the inner wheel arch panel and the boot floor pan means a moisture trap, plus slight abrasion/spot welds, I would have thought
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Re: Mr Tinworm and I get acquainted
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29/06/2013 17:14
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Any ideas of the cause of this ? What rust? H2O + O2 normally does for naked steel. Shite getting trapped between the inner wheel arch panel and the boot floor pan means a moisture trap, plus slight abrasion/spot welds, I would have thought thank you, I must of missed primary school chemistry I'm not convinced. The Bravos of a similar age don't go there. I was wondering if it was maybe a work hardening caused by flex that sets it of.
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