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Gizzmo'd....
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26/03/2013 12:29
26/03/2013 12:29
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tim42
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My Scottie is finally finished!! After her ignominious display at the Surrey rolling road event I took her up to Barbz for a bit of fettling. He cured a misfire and fixed various boost leaks, but suggested that to get consistent performance I needed a boost controller. I went for the Gizzmo on personal recommendation (and cost). Barbz fitted this for me last week, and it is a really good piece of kit (as well as looking quite cool in the car). Once one of the preset boost settings is engaged that level of boost is maintained right up to the red line. The acceleration is smooth and epic at the same time, and Scottie is now performing how I expected when she went Stage 3. I'm only using two of the six settings at the moment (one for cruising and one for hooning) but I will have a little play with some other settings when I get the time. Many thanks to Barbz for his help and wisdom  (and for supplying me with a few cosmetic bits).
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Re: Gizzmo'd....
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26/03/2013 14:21
26/03/2013 14:21
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I have been thinking about the Gizzmo for a while now.
Where did you buy it from and how much did you pay.
As above, I would also like to know where you mounted it and see a couple of pics.
Thanks
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Re: Gizzmo'd....
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#1418110
26/03/2013 15:50
26/03/2013 15:50
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nismo
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I upgraded from a hdi to a gizzmo ibc and am very happy with it and I mounted it under the headlight adjuster switches , I'll get some photos of it tomorrow .
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Re: Gizzmo'd....
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#1418120
26/03/2013 16:38
26/03/2013 16:38
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tim42
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I upgraded from a hdi to a gizzmo ibc and am very happy with it and I mounted it under the headlight adjuster switches , I'll get some photos of it tomorrow . Just where Barbz put mine. I had another drive today, and this really is a good piece of kit. Popped her into second gear, and the boost kicked in fully at about 2900rpm, just held and held right up to the line. Both sets of cheeks were well sucked in  . I cannot recommend this enough (so far).
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#1418122
26/03/2013 17:08
26/03/2013 17:08
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Re: Gizzmo'd....
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#1418139
26/03/2013 18:02
26/03/2013 18:02
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F1ANG
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Nice one tim  That is exactly what i need, as also suggested by barbz, I've had my car back (modded) 3 months now and absolutley loving it more and more each day, also had the car dyno'd for the first time last weekend. I have to say i was impressed with the figures, but over 3 runs there was a little inconsistency in the boost, i have a manual controller atm, and really do need to get round to an ebc. Do you have a picture or link for the gizmo you have please tim? Really glad you've sorted your niggles and enjoying the car
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Re: Gizzmo'd....
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#1418141
26/03/2013 18:20
26/03/2013 18:20
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nismo
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here you go - http://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/i.html?_trksid...0&_from=R40Tim has the gizzmo ms-ibc and i have the gizzmo ibc , both do the same job but tim's one has 2 more presets and can hold more boost but best if you read the spec's on them .
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#1418142
26/03/2013 18:22
26/03/2013 18:22
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F1ANG
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Thanks Iain
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#1418143
26/03/2013 18:25
26/03/2013 18:25
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Gizzmo ibc -  Four Boost Memories Adjustable up to 2bar (29lb) Fast RISC Processor Technology Real Time Digital Boost Gauge Extruded Alloy case Simple 2-wire installation Suits internal or External Wastegates Comes complete with all Hoses and Fittings Gizzmo ms-ibc -  Adjustable up to 50lb (3.5bar) Multi Scramble Boost Remote Scramble/Boost Memory button facility Over-Boost warning Selectable open/closed loop boost control 6 Boost Memories 40mhz High Speed RISC Processor Black Extruded Aluminium case Blue 7 segment LED display White backlit buttons Real Time digital boost gauge Simple 2-Wire Installation Suits Internal or External Wastegates Comes complete with all fitting
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Re: Gizzmo'd....
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#1418145
26/03/2013 18:30
26/03/2013 18:30
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lost55
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Sorry for the dumb question but........ I can see how the boost is controlled but the fueling is still controlled by the Motech ECU? So with different boost curves, is the fueling controlled by the Motech ECU based on airflow, RPM, etc? Thanks
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#1418148
26/03/2013 18:32
26/03/2013 18:32
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nismo
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fueling is controlled by airflow . dont quote me on that but thats how i think it works .
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#1418154
26/03/2013 18:57
26/03/2013 18:57
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charlie_croker
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I have had a Gizzmo MS-IBC for some time, and they are great.
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#1418166
26/03/2013 19:27
26/03/2013 19:27
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tim42
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You have a pm..... 
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#1418167
26/03/2013 19:28
26/03/2013 19:28
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tim42
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Thanks Iain I bought mine from Driftworks.com
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#1418201
26/03/2013 23:13
26/03/2013 23:13
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nismo
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if i remember right the scramble button only gives you an over boost for a few seconds and not full controll of the ibc .
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#1418203
26/03/2013 23:19
26/03/2013 23:19
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lost55
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fueling is controlled by airflow . dont quote me on that but thats how i think it works . Thanks Nismo. I think fueling is based on airflow too. I think that the Motech ECU's question mark is that it doesn't have an input for boost pressure. It derives it from airflow and rpm. So if you have 2 or more boost curves with a standard map is there scope for fueling error? I don't know but if I fitted a stand alone boost controller I'd consider having it mapped as well.
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Re: Gizzmo'd....
[Re: jame5]
#1418261
27/03/2013 10:56
27/03/2013 10:56
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tim42
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Would it be practical to mount one in the glovebox? I have the ms-ibc (not installed yet) and if i remember correctly it can be operated from the scramble button. Barbz gave me three options regarding placement.... Under the light adjuster switches On top of the steering column (masks a bit of the dashboard) In place of the ashtray (PITA to fit  ) I went for the first option. I'm sure you can fit it wherever you want, but I'd want to be able to see it and activate easily from my driving position.
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Re: Gizzmo'd....
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#1418270
27/03/2013 12:09
27/03/2013 12:09
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My Scottie is finally finished!! After her ignominious display at the Surrey rolling road event I took her up to Barbz for a bit of fettling. He cured a misfire and fixed various boost leaks, but suggested that to get consistent performance I needed a boost controller. I went for the Gizzmo on personal recommendation (and cost). Barbz fitted this for me last week, and it is a really good piece of kit (as well as looking quite cool in the car). Once one of the preset boost settings is engaged that level of boost is maintained right up to the red line. The acceleration is smooth and epic at the same time, and Scottie is now performing how I expected when she went Stage 3. I'm only using two of the six settings at the moment (one for cruising and one for hooning) but I will have a little play with some other settings when I get the time. Many thanks to Barbz for his help and wisdom (and for supplying me with a few cosmetic bits). What gain and duty cycle have you used for the two settings? Do you use open or closed loop?
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Re: Gizzmo'd....
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#1418279
27/03/2013 13:06
27/03/2013 13:06
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charlie_croker
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if i remember right the scramble button only gives you an over boost for a few seconds and not full controll of the ibc . You can use it as a Scramble button or as the Channel selector (ie changes the Boost level with each press)
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Re: Gizzmo'd....
[Re: Freddan72]
#1418388
27/03/2013 21:05
27/03/2013 21:05
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tim42
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Best ask Barbz for the details, but the device was set on open loop..... I'd sooner have it set and be able to judge if there is a problem rather than the device try to correct any leaks, etc..
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#1418624
28/03/2013 21:49
28/03/2013 21:49
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simonz30
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I have a gizzmo ms-ibc great controller I have mine mounted on the side of the centre console
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Re: Gizzmo'd....
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#1418627
28/03/2013 21:54
28/03/2013 21:54
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charlie_croker
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I have 5 channels with closed loop and number 6 Open Loop with a Gain of 6 and a Duty of 89.
Dont set your Gain more than 10, or you will get boost creep and apparently put extra stain on clutch and gearbox.
My settings run like this:
Channel 1 = 0.6 BAR but Gain is 10, so good spool up
Channel 2 = 0.8 BAR
Channel 3 = 0.99 BAR
Channel 4 = 1.11 BAR
Channel 5 = 1.24 BAR
Channel 6 = 1.39 BAR Open Loop
Last edited by charlie_croker; 28/03/2013 22:37.
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Re: Gizzmo'd....
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#1418629
28/03/2013 22:04
28/03/2013 22:04
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tim42
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tim42
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Charlie, sounds like you know a lot more about this than I do... I'm just settling down with a nice cold beer and the instruction manual
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Re: Gizzmo'd....
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#1418636
28/03/2013 22:40
28/03/2013 22:40
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charlie_croker
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Charlie, sounds like you know a lot more about this than I do... I'm just settling down with a nice cold beer and the instruction manual I read a lot and have had mine about 18 months. With a lot of experimentation. Try to use 3rd gear for setting up maximum boost levels or even better 4th, though good luck finding somewhere you can The Channel Selector/Scramble switch is a good one to use, as you can use low channels for first and second gears then up the boost in higher gears. I am tempted to get an Apex- AVCR just for the in gear boost control. Though I think the Gizzmo is slightly more modern in terms of technology.
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Re: Gizzmo'd....
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#1418644
28/03/2013 23:34
28/03/2013 23:34
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F1ANG
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F1ANG
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Could somebody please post a picture of the gizzmo fitted in the cockpit? I'll be ordering mine on my next payday
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Re: Gizzmo'd....
[Re: charlie_croker]
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29/03/2013 11:39
29/03/2013 11:39
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tim42
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Charlie, sounds like you know a lot more about this than I do... I'm just settling down with a nice cold beer and the instruction manual I read a lot and have had mine about 18 months. With a lot of experimentation. Try to use 3rd gear for setting up maximum boost levels or even better 4th, though good luck finding somewhere you can The Channel Selector/Scramble switch is a good one to use, as you can use low channels for first and second gears then up the boost in higher gears. I am tempted to get an Apex- AVCR just for the in gear boost control. Though I think the Gizzmo is slightly more modern in terms of technology. If you can get to Horsham I would like to tap your wisdom!
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#1419135
31/03/2013 16:31
31/03/2013 16:31
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R31982
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Hopefully this will work.......Here is the one in mine.... 
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Re: Gizzmo'd....
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#1419137
31/03/2013 16:35
31/03/2013 16:35
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nismo
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looks good there but i have a widget in the vent so mine is under the light adjuster switch .
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