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Gizzmo'd....
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26/03/2013 12:29
26/03/2013 12:29
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tim42
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My Scottie is finally finished!! After her ignominious display at the Surrey rolling road event I took her up to Barbz for a bit of fettling. He cured a misfire and fixed various boost leaks, but suggested that to get consistent performance I needed a boost controller. I went for the Gizzmo on personal recommendation (and cost). Barbz fitted this for me last week, and it is a really good piece of kit (as well as looking quite cool in the car). Once one of the preset boost settings is engaged that level of boost is maintained right up to the red line. The acceleration is smooth and epic at the same time, and Scottie is now performing how I expected when she went Stage 3. I'm only using two of the six settings at the moment (one for cruising and one for hooning) but I will have a little play with some other settings when I get the time. Many thanks to Barbz for his help and wisdom  (and for supplying me with a few cosmetic bits).
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26/03/2013 14:21
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I have been thinking about the Gizzmo for a while now.
Where did you buy it from and how much did you pay.
As above, I would also like to know where you mounted it and see a couple of pics.
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26/03/2013 15:50
26/03/2013 15:50
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I upgraded from a hdi to a gizzmo ibc and am very happy with it and I mounted it under the headlight adjuster switches , I'll get some photos of it tomorrow .
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26/03/2013 16:38
26/03/2013 16:38
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tim42
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I upgraded from a hdi to a gizzmo ibc and am very happy with it and I mounted it under the headlight adjuster switches , I'll get some photos of it tomorrow . Just where Barbz put mine. I had another drive today, and this really is a good piece of kit. Popped her into second gear, and the boost kicked in fully at about 2900rpm, just held and held right up to the line. Both sets of cheeks were well sucked in  . I cannot recommend this enough (so far).
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26/03/2013 17:08
26/03/2013 17:08
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26/03/2013 18:02
26/03/2013 18:02
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Nice one tim  That is exactly what i need, as also suggested by barbz, I've had my car back (modded) 3 months now and absolutley loving it more and more each day, also had the car dyno'd for the first time last weekend. I have to say i was impressed with the figures, but over 3 runs there was a little inconsistency in the boost, i have a manual controller atm, and really do need to get round to an ebc. Do you have a picture or link for the gizmo you have please tim? Really glad you've sorted your niggles and enjoying the car
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26/03/2013 18:20
26/03/2013 18:20
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here you go - http://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/i.html?_trksid...0&_from=R40Tim has the gizzmo ms-ibc and i have the gizzmo ibc , both do the same job but tim's one has 2 more presets and can hold more boost but best if you read the spec's on them .
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#1418142
26/03/2013 18:22
26/03/2013 18:22
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Thanks Iain
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26/03/2013 18:25
26/03/2013 18:25
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Gizzmo ibc -  Four Boost Memories Adjustable up to 2bar (29lb) Fast RISC Processor Technology Real Time Digital Boost Gauge Extruded Alloy case Simple 2-wire installation Suits internal or External Wastegates Comes complete with all Hoses and Fittings Gizzmo ms-ibc -  Adjustable up to 50lb (3.5bar) Multi Scramble Boost Remote Scramble/Boost Memory button facility Over-Boost warning Selectable open/closed loop boost control 6 Boost Memories 40mhz High Speed RISC Processor Black Extruded Aluminium case Blue 7 segment LED display White backlit buttons Real Time digital boost gauge Simple 2-Wire Installation Suits Internal or External Wastegates Comes complete with all fitting
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#1418145
26/03/2013 18:30
26/03/2013 18:30
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Sorry for the dumb question but........ I can see how the boost is controlled but the fueling is still controlled by the Motech ECU? So with different boost curves, is the fueling controlled by the Motech ECU based on airflow, RPM, etc? Thanks
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26/03/2013 18:32
26/03/2013 18:32
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fueling is controlled by airflow . dont quote me on that but thats how i think it works .
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#1418154
26/03/2013 18:57
26/03/2013 18:57
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I have had a Gizzmo MS-IBC for some time, and they are great.
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#1418166
26/03/2013 19:27
26/03/2013 19:27
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You have a pm..... 
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26/03/2013 19:28
26/03/2013 19:28
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Thanks Iain I bought mine from Driftworks.com
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26/03/2013 23:13
26/03/2013 23:13
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if i remember right the scramble button only gives you an over boost for a few seconds and not full controll of the ibc .
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#1418203
26/03/2013 23:19
26/03/2013 23:19
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fueling is controlled by airflow . dont quote me on that but thats how i think it works . Thanks Nismo. I think fueling is based on airflow too. I think that the Motech ECU's question mark is that it doesn't have an input for boost pressure. It derives it from airflow and rpm. So if you have 2 or more boost curves with a standard map is there scope for fueling error? I don't know but if I fitted a stand alone boost controller I'd consider having it mapped as well.
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Re: Gizzmo'd....
[Re: jame5]
#1418261
27/03/2013 10:56
27/03/2013 10:56
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Would it be practical to mount one in the glovebox? I have the ms-ibc (not installed yet) and if i remember correctly it can be operated from the scramble button. Barbz gave me three options regarding placement.... Under the light adjuster switches On top of the steering column (masks a bit of the dashboard) In place of the ashtray (PITA to fit  ) I went for the first option. I'm sure you can fit it wherever you want, but I'd want to be able to see it and activate easily from my driving position.
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#1418270
27/03/2013 12:09
27/03/2013 12:09
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My Scottie is finally finished!! After her ignominious display at the Surrey rolling road event I took her up to Barbz for a bit of fettling. He cured a misfire and fixed various boost leaks, but suggested that to get consistent performance I needed a boost controller. I went for the Gizzmo on personal recommendation (and cost). Barbz fitted this for me last week, and it is a really good piece of kit (as well as looking quite cool in the car). Once one of the preset boost settings is engaged that level of boost is maintained right up to the red line. The acceleration is smooth and epic at the same time, and Scottie is now performing how I expected when she went Stage 3. I'm only using two of the six settings at the moment (one for cruising and one for hooning) but I will have a little play with some other settings when I get the time. Many thanks to Barbz for his help and wisdom (and for supplying me with a few cosmetic bits). What gain and duty cycle have you used for the two settings? Do you use open or closed loop?
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#1418279
27/03/2013 13:06
27/03/2013 13:06
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if i remember right the scramble button only gives you an over boost for a few seconds and not full controll of the ibc . You can use it as a Scramble button or as the Channel selector (ie changes the Boost level with each press)
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Re: Gizzmo'd....
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#1418388
27/03/2013 21:05
27/03/2013 21:05
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tim42
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Best ask Barbz for the details, but the device was set on open loop..... I'd sooner have it set and be able to judge if there is a problem rather than the device try to correct any leaks, etc..
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#1418624
28/03/2013 21:49
28/03/2013 21:49
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I have a gizzmo ms-ibc great controller I have mine mounted on the side of the centre console
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#1418627
28/03/2013 21:54
28/03/2013 21:54
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I have 5 channels with closed loop and number 6 Open Loop with a Gain of 6 and a Duty of 89.
Dont set your Gain more than 10, or you will get boost creep and apparently put extra stain on clutch and gearbox.
My settings run like this:
Channel 1 = 0.6 BAR but Gain is 10, so good spool up
Channel 2 = 0.8 BAR
Channel 3 = 0.99 BAR
Channel 4 = 1.11 BAR
Channel 5 = 1.24 BAR
Channel 6 = 1.39 BAR Open Loop
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Re: Gizzmo'd....
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#1418629
28/03/2013 22:04
28/03/2013 22:04
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tim42
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Charlie, sounds like you know a lot more about this than I do... I'm just settling down with a nice cold beer and the instruction manual
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Re: Gizzmo'd....
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#1418636
28/03/2013 22:40
28/03/2013 22:40
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Charlie, sounds like you know a lot more about this than I do... I'm just settling down with a nice cold beer and the instruction manual I read a lot and have had mine about 18 months. With a lot of experimentation. Try to use 3rd gear for setting up maximum boost levels or even better 4th, though good luck finding somewhere you can The Channel Selector/Scramble switch is a good one to use, as you can use low channels for first and second gears then up the boost in higher gears. I am tempted to get an Apex- AVCR just for the in gear boost control. Though I think the Gizzmo is slightly more modern in terms of technology.
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#1418644
28/03/2013 23:34
28/03/2013 23:34
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F1ANG
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Could somebody please post a picture of the gizzmo fitted in the cockpit? I'll be ordering mine on my next payday
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Re: Gizzmo'd....
[Re: charlie_croker]
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29/03/2013 11:39
29/03/2013 11:39
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Charlie, sounds like you know a lot more about this than I do... I'm just settling down with a nice cold beer and the instruction manual I read a lot and have had mine about 18 months. With a lot of experimentation. Try to use 3rd gear for setting up maximum boost levels or even better 4th, though good luck finding somewhere you can The Channel Selector/Scramble switch is a good one to use, as you can use low channels for first and second gears then up the boost in higher gears. I am tempted to get an Apex- AVCR just for the in gear boost control. Though I think the Gizzmo is slightly more modern in terms of technology. If you can get to Horsham I would like to tap your wisdom!
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31/03/2013 16:31
31/03/2013 16:31
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Hopefully this will work.......Here is the one in mine.... 
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31/03/2013 16:35
31/03/2013 16:35
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looks good there but i have a widget in the vent so mine is under the light adjuster switch .
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31/03/2013 21:43
31/03/2013 21:43
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Looks great R31982. Thanks for posting the pic  May i ask what you have used for the surround, to fill the gap? Cheers
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01/04/2013 11:14
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Yes you need to leave EBV plugged in electrically and loop tubing onto the inlet/outlet if I remember right. BTW thats a very tidy install both of you well done. As I have a Widget the air vents not an option but below the starter button is, I might move mine there too. (Any tips about that install gratefully received)
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01/04/2013 14:38
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Thanks James, thats going onto my list of jobs Did you have enough wiring from the Solenoid valve? or did you have to extend it?
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01/04/2013 15:52
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looks good there James , when you going install mine there 
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01/04/2013 19:42
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Just finished fitting mine, decided to be different and fit it under the start button.    Very happy with how iti looks but now my injector light has lit up  any ideas? Tidy install
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#1419395
01/04/2013 21:37
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no problem mate , i can do it at the grasshopper meet if you ready by then to have it done .
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01/04/2013 22:34
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your be lucky  , my car is off the road at the moment so going grab a lift to the grasshopper meet with EDz hopefully .
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01/04/2013 23:54
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on the way back from the ace last italian night and i was unable to select any gears when the cars running ! , off on holiday for a week on monday so i'll sort it out when i'm back
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01/04/2013 23:59
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Does this Gizzmo display vacuum yet?
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02/04/2013 07:56
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The Gizzmo (MS-IBC) does not display Vacuum it does have a dimmer.
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Re: Gizzmo'd....
[Re: jame5]
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08/04/2013 20:27
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Had just enough length, I ran the lead behind the centre console, across the passenger footwell behind the ecu and then behind the wing. I took your install as inspiration but was uneasy cutting into the dash. So I had the idea that the Headlamp adjuster and instrument dimmer switches would make a great location. So I removed the switch, then got to work with a hacksaw and a file, with careful shaping at the back, the Gizzmo can be angled very slightly upwards. It's a 30 minute job, with no drilling and it can be put back any time with just a replacement switch (Cost approx £10) As I have HIDs the headlamp adjuster motors are not connected and I always leave the instruments on full brightness. I am not sure whether the missing rheostat for the dimmer will be a problem but if it is, I will reuse just the rotary wheel/switch and locate it behind the dash,  Next step is to locate the Gizzmo remote switch on centre console for rapid changes of boost
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10/04/2013 23:07
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Won't be ready by then, i'm up to see Flea on sat and still need to get a new alarm and battery before it's reset again. If you remind me sunday morning before the grasshopper i'll bring some tools with me to fit yours. I believe you bumped into a friend of mine at the dyno, Ian?
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10/04/2013 23:35
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Looks nice, i thought about that but wasn't sure about disconnecting the switches. I got a new illuminated button for mine and i had an old immobiliser socket in my steering cowl so i swapped it for the new scramble button.  Liking that, though I am leaning towards down by electric window switch.
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12/04/2013 00:18
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Where have you mounted the solenoid? Solenoid is cable tied to the relay next to the original pierburg valve.
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12/04/2013 00:32
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Won't be ready by then, i'm up to see Flea on sat and still need to get a new alarm and battery before it's reset again. If you remind me sunday morning before the grasshopper i'll bring some tools with me to fit yours. I believe you bumped into a friend of mine at the dyno, Ian? Yes i did, seemed like a nice bloke, one of a few ford guys who took the time out to have a chat. Apparently i was looking a little nervous, not sure if that's just how i normally look or if i was a bit worried about getting the coupe back on a dyno after Surrey! The first two guys walked pasted looking at the coupe and one of them said "tried racing one of those once and blew my engine up" 
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17/04/2013 17:42
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here's where i put mine for easy access 
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#1422623
17/04/2013 17:59
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here's where i put mine for easy access Nismo did you notice any performance benefits with the Gizzmo compared to the HDI? ie holding boost up revs better or does it just have more functionality? W
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17/04/2013 18:23
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very hard to say , i liked the hdi for ease of use/price and setting up the boost level you wanted on my remapped setup but i would say the gizzmo is a big step up on my modded setup , very easy to install and use and it holds the boost level very well . i changed to the gizzmo before i had the car mapped by flea so i can't say if the hdi would have performed as well as the gizzmo has , but it may have .
to cut along story short , i'm very happy with the gizzmo on the set up i have now .
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17/04/2013 20:00
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here's where i put mine for easy access Exactly where I put mine. Easy to see and easy to use. I'm half-thinking of removing my boost gauge from the top of the dashboard..... 
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10/05/2013 03:52
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After a couple of hours, umming and erring, cutting measuring and faffing on, finally decided mines going right here  ..hope I never have to remove it though Big thanks to dad! Couldn't have done it without him, well I could, but it would probably "or" should I say definitely be squint, cockeyed or I'd have half the bloody dash strip scratched to bits... Booked in with barbz on monday for installation/setup a decat, and a service. I reckon the long drive down will be well worth the fun, long, musical drive back
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#1449098
19/09/2013 18:34
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F1ANG
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I had to cut a little bit of the plastic dash, but only a tiny bit using a dremmel. the only wires behind it, that you will hit if your not careful are the dash tweeter wires, I just taped them up out of the way. Apart from that your good mate
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