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#1399036
19/12/2012 22:10
19/12/2012 22:10
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gscozzari
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What sort of mad power will we see in 2013 mid-high 600bhp monster coupes on fiat power plants
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#1399038
19/12/2012 22:15
19/12/2012 22:15
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johnnybravoturbo
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Watch this space
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19/12/2012 23:24
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knight7660
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I'd only go for 600+bhp if the power band is wide ie 4k rpm width of power at least.
Until we are at this stage I'm not bothering.
LE53 (452BHp & 389ftlb's with Quaife) Wine red VIS FOOFY Audi RS4 B7
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#1399048
19/12/2012 23:44
19/12/2012 23:44
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Biggenz
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I'd only go for 600+bhp if the power band is wide ie 4k rpm width of power at least.
Until we are at this stage I'm not bothering. You'll be waiting forever as 600bhp+ on a small displacement engine inherently goes hand in hand with a narrow power band and lots of laaaaaaaag. Ask Johnny. His car starts spooling at 7.5krpm.
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20/12/2012 09:19
20/12/2012 09:19
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johnnybravoturbo
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I'd only go for 600+bhp if the power band is wide ie 4k rpm width of power at least.
Until we are at this stage I'm not bothering. You'll be waiting forever as 600bhp+ on a small displacement engine inherently goes hand in hand with a narrow power band and lots of laaaaaaaag. Ask Johnny. His car starts spooling at 7.5krpm. Don't give the clue away mate. Would be nice to see a 2.0 actually break 500bhp next year too.
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20/12/2012 09:55
20/12/2012 09:55
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Biggenz
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Don't give the clue away mate. Would be nice to see a 2.0 actually break 500bhp next year too.
You're just jealous that I'm above you in the dyno league table.
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20/12/2012 09:56
20/12/2012 09:56
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Barbz
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lol, keep watching this space Why limit yourself to one where there will be many
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20/12/2012 10:04
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Barbz
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Would be nice to see a 2.0 actually break 500bhp next year too. On heartbreaker too, with nothing switched off or on.
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20/12/2012 10:22
20/12/2012 10:22
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johnnybravoturbo
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Don't give the clue away mate. Would be nice to see a 2.0 actually break 500bhp next year too.
You're just jealous that I'm above you in the dyno league table. Next year will bring a new table ,the table of truth my friend. No pub figures just actual power,. What's the point in having length if you can never use it
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#1399100
20/12/2012 10:57
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20/12/2012 15:35
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Would be nice to see a 2.0 actually break 500bhp next year too.
As I recall. my 2.0 was running 587 back in 2007, even allowing for race fuel The only reason we won't be getting 700 from the 2.4 is I don't need 700 as much as I need a decent torque spread, so have cams timed up to suit my requirements rather than outright numbers Might not be run up before 2014 though even though the lump is built and ready, its the car that's the hold up
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20/12/2012 15:56
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group5lancia
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Would be nice to see a 2.0 actually break 500bhp next year too.
As I recall. my 2.0 was running 587 back in 2007, even Wasn't that a bomb, rather than an engine though?
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20/12/2012 17:56
20/12/2012 17:56
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nyssa7
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Got quite a few races out of it before snapping a rod on the "slowing down" lap
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20/12/2012 18:04
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did you have any graphs for that nyssa? what are you planning to get out of the 2.4l build aswell
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20/12/2012 19:30
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johnnybravoturbo
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Got quite a few races out of it before snapping a rod on the "slowing down" lap Terror
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#1399208
20/12/2012 20:07
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group5lancia
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Got quite a few races out of it before snapping a rod on the "slowing down" lap I was just teasing you Trevor...
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20/12/2012 22:32
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group5lancia
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I hope next year brings a Table of Speediness too. See how many of these pub figures actually make it through the flywheel and on to the road! Bet that'll bring a few surprises Never mind onto the road. A lot of the flywheel figures 'obtained' are very easy to blow out of the water. They require a VE of over 100% (N/A - and never seen on any turbo engine due to the necessary timing of the exhaust cam) - not even F1 engines of 'The Turbo Era' managed the claimed levels per litre and per level of boost....
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21/12/2012 00:50
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johnnybravoturbo
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I hope next year brings a Table of Speediness too. See how many of these pub figures actually make it through the flywheel and on to the road! Bet that'll bring a few surprises Never mind onto the road. A lot of the flywheel figures 'obtained' are very easy to blow out of the water. They require a VE of over 100% (N/A - and never seen on any turbo engine due to the necessary timing of the exhaust cam) - not even F1 engines of 'The Turbo Era' managed the claimed levels per litre and per level of boost.... I love your posts, You talk so much sense. Pity you don't post more fella
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#1399277
21/12/2012 10:22
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Would be nice to see a 2.0 actually break 500bhp next year too. I could have seen 500 if I'd instructed Leighton to run 1.7 or 1.8 bar, but I wasn't interested in peak power.
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#1399278
21/12/2012 11:01
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group5lancia
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I hope next year brings a Table of Speediness too. See how many of these pub figures actually make it through the flywheel and on to the road! Bet that'll bring a few surprises Never mind onto the road. A lot of the flywheel figures 'obtained' are very easy to blow out of the water. They require a VE of over 100% (N/A - and never seen on any turbo engine due to the necessary timing of the exhaust cam) - not even F1 engines of 'The Turbo Era' managed the claimed levels per litre and per level of boost.... I love your posts, You talk so much sense. Pity you don't post more fella Few people want to hear the truth, I fear...
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#1399298
21/12/2012 15:04
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johnnybravoturbo
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I have no fear as I know the truth
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#1399306
21/12/2012 16:00
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not even F1 engines of 'The Turbo Era' managed the claimed levels per litre and per level of boost.... So what your saying is Fiat/Lancia really pulled it out of the bag when they put together the 5 cylinder engine?!
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