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Re: Wood Burning Stoves
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08/10/2012 23:02
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Nello
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bockers we had one installed last winter. Ours is a Stovax - British made. This one - only 4kw but fine for our use: Stovax I'd reccomend getting a full Flu liner fitted - Pretty pricey but defintately worth it for safety and maximum efficiency. There are loads of cheap Chinese imports around which are not fully cast iron so watch where you purchase.
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Re: Wood Burning Stoves
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09/10/2012 08:00
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Full stainless liner is a must. Villager have a good name in the UK. Franco/belge are a top make over here as is Godin. Both availiable in the UK i think.
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Re: Wood Burning Stoves
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11/10/2012 00:00
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I installed and serviced wood burning stoves for about three years. Chimney liner is an absolute must as is fitting by a HETAS registered engineer. Check out Euroheat for the best stoves, Stanford/Harmony and Hwam stoves i can highly recommend, very good quality and efficient, well worth the extra money.
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Re: Wood Burning Stoves
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11/10/2012 00:13
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I have a Clearview stove back in the UK which is very good indeed.
Try to aim for the higher priced stoves made from steel and not the cast iron stoves. What is your chimney like that the flue will be running up? Is it possible to back fill the chimney around the flue, this will keep the heat in the flue and prevent it tarring up. Back filling can hold condensation next to the liner and cause corrosion, the air gap between the liner and the flue is usually enough to insulate the liner. I would only back fill if absolutely necessary, sometimes on an external wall with possible down draft problems or short flue.
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Re: Wood Burning Stoves
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11/10/2012 01:03
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I bought and fitted a (Danish) Morso cast iron woodburner about 6 years ago. Fantastic stove that will burn coal aswell. I fitted a stainless liner and backfilled the chimney cavity . My advice would be to make sure parts will easily be available in the future as the internal cast iron grate etc. will need replacing every few years and most importantly only burn properly dried logs (get yourself a log moisture meter) I store mine for 18 months before using. If you burn unseasoned logs the liner WILL become completely blocked with a resinous tar that is not possible to remove by conventional brushes. I know this as it happened to me ... the very top four feet of the liner was solid with tar and was very difficult and expensive to rectify. With good logs and a well designed stove I can heat my whole cottage for 'peanuts'.
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Re: Wood Burning Stoves
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11/10/2012 11:47
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I bought a 5kw stove to heat a 5x5m room but found that it wasn't enough - the rated output only appears to be what you get when it is burning furiously so my advice is to get something at least 8kw that can also accommodate a reasonable sized log to burn well into the night. Small logs dont last and you have to saw them up twice-over. Secondly do not make the mistake of putting your burner inside the bottom of your fireplace. Put it as much as you can into the room. I find that a lot of the radiated heat comes out of (a) the Window at the front and (b) the bottom of the flue so you dont want to lose that. My other advice is to bear in mind the quality of your room and house insulation. If you have old thin or leaky windows in the room then you can lose 4kw without heating anything up. I also bought a 20kw burner with a boiler at the back, plumbed it into 6 radiators and 2 towel rails. Loving that I dont have a gas bill or electric heating bill over winter any more.
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Re: Wood Burning Stoves
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12/10/2012 22:24
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Lots of advice on here advocating a liner being an absolute must. I fully appreciate the peace of mind you'd get from doing so as its obviously the default safer option. But unless you have money to burn it is actually worth checking if this is really necessary. And with respect I'd question the fitters opinion as clearly he has a vested interest as that bit of work has by far the highest margin on it. I don't run mine with a liner and as long as chimney is sound there's nothing as far as i know to dictate you must have one. And sorry but i dont follow the efficiency argument in the context given. Obviously knowing the condition of the chimney becomes paramount and also what's going on with the walls above i.e. to check no ones previously breached anything cutting in e.g. sockets etc. But worth being aware rather than parting with your hard earned cash.
Cue the condemnation of such a reckless suggestion...
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Re: Wood Burning Stoves
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12/10/2012 22:52
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I would not condem what you have just posted,as i ran a log burner in the UK for years with just a 1.5 metre flue into my inglenook chimney.
But since living in rural France for the last ten years i have seen many fire damaged houses where folks have not put a flue all the way up and the French insurance will not pay up .Due to the fact that it is often the main source of heating its a big risk without. Asides that, the burner is much more controlable with the full flue.
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Re: Wood Burning Stoves
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12/10/2012 23:45
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Wonder if that's the rate that you've been quoted Bockers. Hope so. Appreciate the safety and other concerns, but i was just pointing out that it isn't in fact an absolute must and theres a valid reason its not been made a statutory requirement.
I've been running mine for over 14 years with no problem or damage to the house.
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Re: Wood Burning Stoves
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15/10/2012 20:22
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I'd advise a multi fuel stove, it soon wears thin feeding the beast with wood when a decent shovel full of coal will burn all night.
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Re: Wood Burning Stoves
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29/01/2013 19:09
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After being [cloud9] around by our sweep, who ordered the wrong stove twice it finally arrived today, thats over 3 months, and now the worst of the winter has passed. And guess what, the glass door is smashed Why are tradespeople so bloody disorganised.
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Re: Wood Burning Stoves
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29/01/2013 23:18
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After being around by our sweep, who ordered the wrong stove twice it finally arrived today, thats over 3 months, and now the worst of the winter has passed. And guess what, the glass door is smashed Why are tradespeople so bloody disorganised. Sorry for youre probs John. But thats bad luck.
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Re: Wood Burning Stoves
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01/02/2013 22:05
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Re: Wood Burning Stoves
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01/02/2013 22:28
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Bit extreme perhaps, you could always haul him over the coals though. Whoops wrong type of burning thingy. For future reference though ^^^he started it!
Up yours Photobucket.
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