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Re: Quitting smoking... [Re: MattyB] #1364415
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Allen Carr's book "The EasyWay to Stop Smoking" worked for me, as I'm sure you're all bored of hearing me say. But if it works for someone else then it's worth it! I went from 20+ a day for 20 years and just stopped in 2002. It was like turning off a switch in my head and I've never come close to having so much as a drag since. The book cost me about £7, which is without doubt the best value for money I've ever had.

Re: Quitting smoking... [Re: MattyB] #1364424
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Worked for me as well, after 2 failed attempts with the book, i switched to the audio book and it worked. I'd been on approximately 10 to 15 a day 6 years to absolutely nothing for the last 2, not even a drag on one.

The thing that made it click for me, was he talked about smoking in stressful situations, you know the ones where your wound up, and go for a quick ciggie. Thing is, smoking doesn't make the situation go away, it's still there when you return, so it hasn't really made you any less stressed if you see what I mean?

The misses also read the book, and knocked a 20 a day habit on the head first time round. Give it a try, yes the book does preach a little, but trust me and others it's definitely worth at least a couple of attempts.

Re: Quitting smoking... [Re: PeteP] #1364425
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Originally Posted By: MarioCirillo

Cold turkey doesnt work for me as so many of my mates smoke and when your down at the pub... or the ace... its just really hard to say no. frown



My life revolved around smoking and many of my mates smoke, as well as my Mum (she's given up with me now though) and my brother, but I've managed.

Use your e cig, while enjoying your mates secondhand smoke laugh

Spa was the biggest tester for me this year and you saw for yourself that the e cig worked for me (as well as willpower) laugh


Originally Posted By: petep
E cigs don't really address the root cause, addiction to nicotine. You are still getting it albeit in a less harmful way.



That's my main point though and the only reason people want to give up smoking, is because of the harmful way of obtaining nicotine (as well as costs).

E cigs deliver it in a less harmful way and helps you get over that taste for a real ciggie.

Re: Quitting smoking... [Re: MattyB] #1364446
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Quite so - I'd be surprised if Petep doesn't get that.

Re: Quitting smoking... [Re: MattyB] #1364448
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I'm not sure I understand your point Brian, but as far as I can see e-ciggies just continue to feed your addiction so you are not really cured of it unless you taper off your use of them to zero.

If you continue to use them as a long term substitute there is probably a greater chance of a lapse back into real ciggies at some stage.


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Re: Quitting smoking... [Re: MattyB] #1364451
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My point is the same as Theresa's - that regardless of whether you remain addicted to nicotine the health benefit of satisfying it with ecigs is huge.

I suppose there might be a risk of a relapse, but still the benefits are very likely to be substantial.

Re: Quitting smoking... [Re: MattyB] #1364456
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Does nicotine cause cancer?

Re: Quitting smoking... [Re: MattyB] #1364467
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It is a component in some types of insecticides, so I don't think it will do you much good.

Extracts from from this link are slightly concerning.

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It functions as an antiherbivore chemical, being a potent neurotoxin with particular specificity to insects; therefore nicotine was widely used as an insecticide in the past, and currently nicotine derivatives such as imidacloprid continue to be widely used

Toxicology

The LD50 of nicotine is 50 mg/kg for rats and 3 mg/kg for mice. 40–60 mg (0.5-1.0 mg/kg) can be a lethal dosage for adult humans.[10] [11] This makes it an extremely deadly poison. It is more toxic than many other alkaloids such as cocaine, which has an LD50 of 95.1 mg/kg when administered to mice.

The carcinogenic properties of nicotine in standalone form, separate from tobacco smoke, have not been evaluated by the IARC, and it has not been assigned to an official carcinogen group. The currently available literature indicates that nicotine, on its own, does not promote the development of cancer in healthy tissue and has no mutagenic properties. Its teratogenic properties have not yet been adequately researched, and while the likelihood of birth defects caused by nicotine is believed to be very small or nonexistent, nicotine replacement product manufacturers recommend consultation with a physician before using a nicotine patch or nicotine gum while pregnant or nursing. However, nicotine and the increased cholinergic activity it causes have been shown to impede apoptosis[citation needed], which is one of the methods by which the body destroys unwanted cells (programmed cell death). Since apoptosis helps to remove mutated or damaged cells that may eventually become cancerous, the inhibitory actions of nicotine create a more favourable environment for cancer to develop. Thus nicotine plays an indirect role in carcinogenesis. It is also important to note that its addictive properties are often the primary motivating factor for tobacco smoking, contributing to the proliferation of cancer. At least one study has concluded that exposure to nicotine alone, not simply as a component of cigarette smoke, could be responsible for some of the neuropathological changes observed in infants dying from Sudden Infant Death Syndrome (SIDS).[12] It has been noted that the majority of people diagnosed with schizophrenia smoke tobacco. Estimates for the number of schizophrenics that smoke range from 75% to 90%. It was recently argued that the increased level of smoking in schizophrenia may be due to a desire to self-medicate with nicotine. [13] [14] More recent research has found the reverse, that it is a risk factor without long-term benefit, used only for its short term effects.[15] However, research on nicotine as administered through a patch or gum is ongoing.


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Re: Quitting smoking... [Re: MattyB] #1364483
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Fair comment. I am only saying that giving up smoking, even if continuing to take in nicotine, just has to be good.

Re: Quitting smoking... [Re: MattyB] #1364490
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I completely agree with you there Brian. There is so much more dangerous crap in tobacco than nicotine.


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Re: Quitting smoking... [Re: PeteP] #1364636
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I just think it's wrong that they've tested on rats and mice frown

My pet rats don't act any differently from when they were subjected to nicotine from tobacco smoke to now, when they are subjected to nicotine from vapour tongue

If they live longer than their 2 year life span, then I conclude that e cigs are better laugh

They have one month left before they reach 2 years old laugh

All that article says to me, is that nicotine could cause cancer, but they're not really sure because they don't really know and need more funding to determine what they'll still be unsure of, as they don't want to commit rolleyes

Re: Quitting smoking... [Re: MattyB] #1364645
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Electric nicotine is so good for you that when tested on standardised lab cancer cultures, they got better and turned back into the animals they were cultured from.

Yes, electric ciggies cause lab rats in cancer!


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Quitting smoking?? #1376224
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how the hell do people do it?

i have to stop for medical reasons and im struggling like hell.

day 4 and ive had 1 ciggy today as being at work and the usual fag break was a killer.

any tips?
Any advice?

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Re: Quitting smoking?? [Re: ] #1376225
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Wasn't there a huge long thread about this?


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Re: Quitting smoking?? [Re: barnacle] #1376228
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yeah but you know smokers Neil ........ 20 a day smile


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Originally Posted By: barnacle
Wasn't there a huge long thread about this?


was there???

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Re: Quitting smoking?? [Re: ] #1376234
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Originally Posted By: Nobby

That'll be the one that comes up third on the list if you type smoking into the Google search box at the top of the page... laugh

Or there was one from a bit earlier in the year.

This one.


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yip. There's also some government sponsered thing going on. They've renamed October STOP TOBER There should be some helpful links on there. Stick with it though, you know it's worth it smile


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Re: Quitting smoking?? [Re: ] #1376237
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Bloody hell, didnt see them.. looked at 2 pages in the general chat and made this post.

can some one merge the threads please??
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Re: Quitting smoking?? [Re: ] #1376243
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I find it hard to resist after alchohol, which classes me a smoker lol. During the week I feel no desire to smoke, wake up on sunday hangover and sore throat.

Any one in the same position as a drinker/smoker?

Re: Quitting smoking?? [Re: MattyB] #1376245
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Topic merged

Re: Quitting smoking?? [Re: MattyB] #1376246
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Thank Turbo bogey laugh

i only smoke from 10.30am

cant smoke before then, its just wrong.

luch time is a pain the the rectom.
neveer wanted to smoke more than that.

had to go for a walk to get away from it.
this is going to be a hard game frown

Re: Quitting smoking?? [Re: ] #1376251
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Get an e cig Marco or some Nicorette Quick Mist cool

The nasal spray is good stuff, but only intended for heavy smokers.

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What about the electronic things do theese work for a social smoker?

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with out sounding silly, does any onethink this is all in your mind??

i mean, you just WANT to smoke.. not actually NEEd to smoke?

or am i just going crazy?

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Physical addiction to nicotine is mild and lasts about 30 days. The rest is in your swede.

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26 days...
Hmm... If any wants me, I will be in the corner playing with fire.

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Originally Posted By: jonnybgt1759
What about the electronic things do theese work for a social smoker?


I wouldn't know, I was never a social smoker, although if they work for a 60+ a day smoker, I'm pretty sure they'll work well for you cool

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Originally Posted By: jonnybgt1759
I find it hard to resist after alchohol, which classes me a smoker lol. During the week I feel no desire to smoke, wake up on sunday hangover and sore throat.

Any one in the same position as a drinker/smoker?


Yeah me. I stopped for nearly 2 years, I went to the pub once and started again rolleyes


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