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Re: Quitting smoking...
[Re: MattyB]
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01/08/2012 12:28
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Worked for me as well, after 2 failed attempts with the book, i switched to the audio book and it worked. I'd been on approximately 10 to 15 a day 6 years to absolutely nothing for the last 2, not even a drag on one.
The thing that made it click for me, was he talked about smoking in stressful situations, you know the ones where your wound up, and go for a quick ciggie. Thing is, smoking doesn't make the situation go away, it's still there when you return, so it hasn't really made you any less stressed if you see what I mean?
The misses also read the book, and knocked a 20 a day habit on the head first time round. Give it a try, yes the book does preach a little, but trust me and others it's definitely worth at least a couple of attempts.
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Re: Quitting smoking...
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01/08/2012 12:29
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Cold turkey doesnt work for me as so many of my mates smoke and when your down at the pub... or the ace... its just really hard to say no. My life revolved around smoking and many of my mates smoke, as well as my Mum (she's given up with me now though) and my brother, but I've managed. Use your e cig, while enjoying your mates secondhand smoke Spa was the biggest tester for me this year and you saw for yourself that the e cig worked for me (as well as willpower) E cigs don't really address the root cause, addiction to nicotine. You are still getting it albeit in a less harmful way.
That's my main point though and the only reason people want to give up smoking, is because of the harmful way of obtaining nicotine (as well as costs). E cigs deliver it in a less harmful way and helps you get over that taste for a real ciggie.
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Re: Quitting smoking...
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01/08/2012 14:30
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Quite so - I'd be surprised if Petep doesn't get that.
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Re: Quitting smoking...
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01/08/2012 14:37
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I'm not sure I understand your point Brian, but as far as I can see e-ciggies just continue to feed your addiction so you are not really cured of it unless you taper off your use of them to zero. If you continue to use them as a long term substitute there is probably a greater chance of a lapse back into real ciggies at some stage.
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Re: Quitting smoking...
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01/08/2012 14:46
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My point is the same as Theresa's - that regardless of whether you remain addicted to nicotine the health benefit of satisfying it with ecigs is huge.
I suppose there might be a risk of a relapse, but still the benefits are very likely to be substantial.
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Re: Quitting smoking...
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01/08/2012 15:25
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Does nicotine cause cancer?
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Re: Quitting smoking...
[Re: MattyB]
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01/08/2012 16:24
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It is a component in some types of insecticides, so I don't think it will do you much good. Extracts from from this link are slightly concerning. It functions as an antiherbivore chemical, being a potent neurotoxin with particular specificity to insects; therefore nicotine was widely used as an insecticide in the past, and currently nicotine derivatives such as imidacloprid continue to be widely used
Toxicology
The LD50 of nicotine is 50 mg/kg for rats and 3 mg/kg for mice. 40–60 mg (0.5-1.0 mg/kg) can be a lethal dosage for adult humans.[10] [11] This makes it an extremely deadly poison. It is more toxic than many other alkaloids such as cocaine, which has an LD50 of 95.1 mg/kg when administered to mice.
The carcinogenic properties of nicotine in standalone form, separate from tobacco smoke, have not been evaluated by the IARC, and it has not been assigned to an official carcinogen group. The currently available literature indicates that nicotine, on its own, does not promote the development of cancer in healthy tissue and has no mutagenic properties. Its teratogenic properties have not yet been adequately researched, and while the likelihood of birth defects caused by nicotine is believed to be very small or nonexistent, nicotine replacement product manufacturers recommend consultation with a physician before using a nicotine patch or nicotine gum while pregnant or nursing. However, nicotine and the increased cholinergic activity it causes have been shown to impede apoptosis[citation needed], which is one of the methods by which the body destroys unwanted cells (programmed cell death). Since apoptosis helps to remove mutated or damaged cells that may eventually become cancerous, the inhibitory actions of nicotine create a more favourable environment for cancer to develop. Thus nicotine plays an indirect role in carcinogenesis. It is also important to note that its addictive properties are often the primary motivating factor for tobacco smoking, contributing to the proliferation of cancer. At least one study has concluded that exposure to nicotine alone, not simply as a component of cigarette smoke, could be responsible for some of the neuropathological changes observed in infants dying from Sudden Infant Death Syndrome (SIDS).[12] It has been noted that the majority of people diagnosed with schizophrenia smoke tobacco. Estimates for the number of schizophrenics that smoke range from 75% to 90%. It was recently argued that the increased level of smoking in schizophrenia may be due to a desire to self-medicate with nicotine. [13] [14] More recent research has found the reverse, that it is a risk factor without long-term benefit, used only for its short term effects.[15] However, research on nicotine as administered through a patch or gum is ongoing.
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Re: Quitting smoking...
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01/08/2012 17:41
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Fair comment. I am only saying that giving up smoking, even if continuing to take in nicotine, just has to be good.
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Re: Quitting smoking...
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01/08/2012 18:15
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I completely agree with you there Brian. There is so much more dangerous crap in tobacco than nicotine.
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Quitting smoking??
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10/09/2012 13:39
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how the hell do people do it?
i have to stop for medical reasons and im struggling like hell.
day 4 and ive had 1 ciggy today as being at work and the usual fag break was a killer.
any tips? Any advice?
Marco
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Re: Quitting smoking??
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10/09/2012 14:02
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Wasn't there a huge long thread about this? was there???
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Re: Quitting smoking??
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10/09/2012 14:10
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Re: Quitting smoking??
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10/09/2012 14:40
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Bloody hell, didnt see them.. looked at 2 pages in the general chat and made this post. can some one merge the threads please??
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Re: Quitting smoking??
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10/09/2012 15:06
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I find it hard to resist after alchohol, which classes me a smoker lol. During the week I feel no desire to smoke, wake up on sunday hangover and sore throat.
Any one in the same position as a drinker/smoker?
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Re: Quitting smoking??
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10/09/2012 15:21
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Re: Quitting smoking??
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10/09/2012 15:40
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Thank Turbo bogey i only smoke from 10.30am cant smoke before then, its just wrong. luch time is a pain the the rectom. neveer wanted to smoke more than that. had to go for a walk to get away from it. this is going to be a hard game
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Re: Quitting smoking??
[Re: MattyB]
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10/09/2012 16:54
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What about the electronic things do theese work for a social smoker?
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Re: Quitting smoking??
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10/09/2012 17:34
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with out sounding silly, does any onethink this is all in your mind??
i mean, you just WANT to smoke.. not actually NEEd to smoke?
or am i just going crazy?
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Re: Quitting smoking??
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10/09/2012 21:06
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26 days... Hmm... If any wants me, I will be in the corner playing with fire.
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Re: Quitting smoking??
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10/09/2012 21:51
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I find it hard to resist after alchohol, which classes me a smoker lol. During the week I feel no desire to smoke, wake up on sunday hangover and sore throat.
Any one in the same position as a drinker/smoker? Yeah me. I stopped for nearly 2 years, I went to the pub once and started again
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