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Installing a tow bar; electrics particularly #1364133
31/07/2012 12:01
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To allow me to tow the Westie to track days, I'm looking into DIY installing a tow bar on my Leon.

I've found a few websites with clear how-to's for installing the actual bar, but haven't found anything on the electrics.

Has anyone had experience installing tow bar electrics? Is it just a case of scotch-locks onto the appropriate light feeds, or is it more complicated that that (feeds to under the bonnet)?

Has anyone seen/ got a how-to (even if generic)?

Thanks smile

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Does the Leon have a connector in the boot near the lights for plugging in a tow bar?
If not then its just like you say, splice into the wires. Dead easy.

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Unless it's can bus, you'll end up with errors.

It's a later Leon I assume?

Re: Installing a tow bar; electrics particularly [Re: ] #1364175
31/07/2012 14:12
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No, it's an earlier one ... an 03 plate. Hopefully that makes things easier?

Jim, I'll have a dig around the boot, to see if there are any connectors, although I've not noticed any before. I was more worried about having to run feeds back from the battery (rather than a straight-forward plug-in at the back).

I've also heard that you need some sort of visual/ audible signal that the trailer lights are working?

Re: Installing a tow bar; electrics particularly [Re: ] #1364189
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Some you can just trace the wires from the light fitting and splice in, others, like my Vito have to use a seperate system, powered directly from the battery otherwise it borks the Engine Management doodab....apparently.

Either way it's not particulary difficult tbh, just a bit tricky sometimes with wire routing.

Re: Installing a tow bar; electrics particularly [Re: ] #1364238
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You should be able to splice in on one side to make wiring easy, go for the side with the fog lights if they are only on one light cluster, a reverse light is not a legal requirement.
Some car manufactures put a rubber grommet in to enable a wire to be passed through to the outside, if not you may have to drill and fit one yourself but again, it's not a big job.

Not sure if this is any help to you
http://www.simonranson.com/SeatLeonFR_towbar.htm

Re: Installing a tow bar; electrics particularly [Re: ] #1364241
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Many thanks Jim. That guide is very helpful.

I'm now just trying to establish whether I need a bypass relay kit or not. It appears not (the Leon hasn't got fancy bulb fault detectors or anything) ... but I've not yet managed to 100% confirm.

If not, fitting does look simple enough (as you say) smile

Re: Installing a tow bar; electrics particularly [Re: ] #1364259
31/07/2012 18:44
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Have you got an electric kit Dave ? I'm assuming you only need single electrics ?


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Re: Installing a tow bar; electrics particularly [Re: ] #1364263
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I remember that the last time i had a tow bar fitted in the uk the guy also fitted a reversing siren,bleep bleep etc.



Re: Installing a tow bar; electrics particularly [Re: ] #1364270
31/07/2012 19:18
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Yes ... looking around, it seems that a bleeper of some sort is a requirement, and is on most of the kits, Joe smile

I just need a single socket, and after speaking to a fitter, it seems I can get away with one like Jim was describing (ie. no need for relay/ wiring to battery)

I've found a kit on eBay for £85, and the fitter quoted £190. It takes 2-3hrs as the bumper has to come off, and be trimmed. So I'm just contemplating whether its worth paying someone £100 for 2-3hrs work fitting it!!

Re: Installing a tow bar; electrics particularly [Re: ] #1364274
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I can get you a wiring diagram tomorrow if you are going to do it yourself. It will be for a universal kit so should be straight forward.


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Re: Installing a tow bar; electrics particularly [Re: ] #1364276
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That would be fantastic. Thank you smile

I think I am going to DIY ... the saving is half a track day, after all! smile

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Originally Posted By: dave_t
That would be fantastic. Thank you smile

I think I am going to DIY ... the saving is half a track day, after all! smile



http://www.fiatcoupeclub.org/forum/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=1363037#Post1363037 yes

Re: Installing a tow bar; electrics particularly [Re: ] #1364386
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Hopefully that's where all this is leading to, Dave smile

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I hope you have a license to tow Dave wink

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You forget that I'm an old git, Chris laugh

I passed my test in '93 ... so have BE by default smile

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I've just checked his date of birth, it's true, he's incredibly old!

Re: Installing a tow bar; electrics particularly [Re: Jimbo] #1364503
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I've just checked his date of birth, it's true, he's incredibly old!


He seemed like a young jolly chap to me !!



Re: Installing a tow bar; electrics particularly [Re: ] #1364525
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These youngsters - some of us have had our licences ten years longer than him, and could have had it sooner had we actually needed a car...


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Re: Installing a tow bar; electrics particularly [Re: ] #1364526
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It's all relative, Jim, Joe and Neil, its all relative wink

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