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Quitting smoking...
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17/06/2012 11:27
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Here I go again for the 4th time in 18 months! I dont want to quit but money and health is forcing me too No idea how I'm going to do it! I have some E-cigs and nicorate mints. Any tips?
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Re: Quitting smoking...
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17/06/2012 12:04
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Hoping to quit when not wanting to quit is not a good starting point.
The benefit of extra cash or non-immediate health issues are not really going to be enough. Maybe you should concentrate on other areas. For instance: - Now smoking is banned in work and public spaces you smell real bad. You can't smell it because your still smoking, but believe me you smell like a tramp. You're socially repugnant. - Smoking is now associated with losers. Look around you and see what demographic, as a general group, are still smoking - yep, it's those with very little else.
When I packed them in, I found something I despised was closely associated with cigarettes (Thatcher taking a directorship with Phillip Morris) gave me a mental reason not to smoke, and killed that initial 'only one won't hurt' thought process right away.
I had also worked my way down to Silk Cut extra, extra mild (the old all-white box), and it's just embarrassing buying them - it's a public admission that you're hooked.
I guess in summary, what I'm saying is, you have to hate yourself as a smoker, because there's more to you than that. That you don't want to be defined by others as a sucker to the cigarette industry.
Good luck.
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Re: Quitting smoking...
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17/06/2012 12:34
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Hypnotism can work for some people. There are MP3's you can download for around a fiver. I think hypnosisdownloads.com and uncommonknowledge do them, I used the nail-biting one which worked (for 6 months, I have to listen to it periodically but it's only 20 mins long)!
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Re: Quitting smoking...
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17/06/2012 13:49
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I don't want to perpetuate the "it is difficult to give up smoking" myth , because that along with all the crappy patches - ecigs, gum etc. is what makes it harder.
So what does work? Books tend to give you the opportunity to move on mentally and you definitely need this. Alan Carr has some good stuff in it.
Evaluate every cig you smoke. Was it a good one? You'll be amazed that about 90% of the time that cig you smoked has just made you feel crap.
Identify your trigger points. For me there were 3.
1. "I'm having a crap day - can't wait to have a fag" Once I'd mentally booked the next cigarette nothing would stop me, so I stopped promising them to myself.
2. Bored in the car - Swapped the cigs for sweets. Not a great choice, but it could be gum, or anything.
3. Pub - solved by the smoking ban.
Enjoy the healthy new you. 36 hours - the worst of the withdrawal is over. 5 days - start to feel good. 6 months - your lungs are cleaner, you're capable of anything a non-smoker can do.
Find a new way to get high. Alcohol, physical exercise, sex, whatever.
Finally, use your tenses correctly. The moment you stop you ARE a non-smoker. You are not giving up, you have given up.
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Re: Quitting smoking...
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17/06/2012 14:46
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Easiest way to give up smoking? Have a CT scan like I did three months ago that shows a large bulla (hole/space) in my left upper lobe, multiple smaller bullae (holes/spaces) all over both lungs, fibrosis in both lungs and emphysema in both lungs. I have smoked for less than 20yrs, usually 20/day. Trust me, when you have a doctor apologising for breaking "such bad news" via the telephone due to circumstances beyond his control instead of in person, you'll give up there and then! So, your choice, stop now and don't go through what I'm going through (shortness of breath, in a wheelchair, attending respiratory clinics etc) or say "Sod it" and carry on smoking...... I used to rationalise it to myself that grandmother/grandfather both smoked and lived into their 90's *but* what I was turning a blind eye to was the fact that my father died of lung cancer aged only 5yrs older than I am now. I am an idiot! Given the chance I'd never have started (only did after the death of my father....as the yanks say, "Go figure!"). I gave up mainly through fear of dying sooner rather than later, and using nicotine lozenges and the inhalator. It has been easy! Very easy! In fact, I've tried three or four times in the past but always ended up cheating with a crafty one every day/second day and never lasting that long, couple of weeks maximum. The smoking cessation service in your area might help, best of all they'd get your nicotine replacement therapy on prescription for you to save money, but here's a money saving tip anyway; Morrison's own brand nicotine lozenges are identical to the Nicorette ones Good luck and trust me, when you see the attitude change in the CT scan staff and you *know* they've found bad news you'll wish you'd given up years ago! Don't put yourself through this......
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Re: Quitting smoking...
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17/06/2012 15:10
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I gave up smoking over twenty three years ago for health reasons. Easy for the likes of me to come along & say it was an easy choice, but it really was. I woke up one morning after the night before & was greeted with dark blood on the pillow. Mmm not good I thought. Without going into too much detail I gave up. Screwed up all the cigarettes in the house & never looked back. No patches or waste of money things too complicate the issue. I wanted to live long enough to become a Granddad at least. The money I saved was a bonus as well. Nowadays it's a small fortune feeding your smoking habit. Personally there are no real tips other than using the grey matter. AS I say, so easy for me, but that's only my wee story. Give up man, you know it makes sense....
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Re: Quitting smoking...
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17/06/2012 15:22
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All I would add it change behaviours which were associated with smoking, for example if you have a break at x time of day with a coffee and Cig then avoid the break, do something else, even change choice of drink location etc to lessen the association.
Good luck.
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Re: Quitting smoking...
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17/06/2012 16:33
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Well, I've now been up 6 hours and havent had a cig. Only a few puffs of the E-cig.
I keep thinking about nipping out to buy some fags but then asking myself why? I think today is an easy day as I havent been out or needed to go out. It's going to be the rest of the week which will be hard.
I'm going to the pub for a roast in an hour or so and this pub has a nice sheltered beer garden I'm pretty much always in. This will be the test......
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17/06/2012 18:22
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we haven't spent about £130 grand on fags since we gave up. However, for some reason, I can't seem to find the money we saved......
Look at the pics of your coupes, you should be able to see £££ signs all over them
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Re: Quitting smoking...
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17/06/2012 19:26
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Easiest way to give up smoking? Have a CT scan like I did three months ago that shows a large bulla (hole/space) in my left upper lobe, multiple smaller bullae (holes/spaces) all over both lungs, fibrosis in both lungs and emphysema in both lungs. I have smoked for less than 20yrs, usually 20/day. Trust me, when you have a doctor apologising for breaking "such bad news" via the telephone due to circumstances beyond his control instead of in person, you'll give up there and then! So, your choice, stop now and don't go through what I'm going through (shortness of breath, in a wheelchair, attending respiratory clinics etc) or say "Sod it" and carry on smoking...... I used to rationalise it to myself that grandmother/grandfather both smoked and lived into their 90's *but* what I was turning a blind eye to was the fact that my father died of lung cancer aged only 5yrs older than I am now. I am an idiot! Given the chance I'd never have started (only did after the death of my father....as the yanks say, "Go figure!"). I gave up mainly through fear of dying sooner rather than later, and using nicotine lozenges and the inhalator. It has been easy! Very easy! In fact, I've tried three or four times in the past but always ended up cheating with a crafty one every day/second day and never lasting that long, couple of weeks maximum. The smoking cessation service in your area might help, best of all they'd get your nicotine replacement therapy on prescription for you to save money, but here's a money saving tip anyway; Morrison's own brand nicotine lozenges are identical to the Nicorette ones Good luck and trust me, when you see the attitude change in the CT scan staff and you *know* they've found bad news you'll wish you'd given up years ago! Don't put yourself through this...... Sorry to hear this Stan.
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17/06/2012 20:14
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As most on here know, I was a 60 a day smoker until Jan 2nd this year. I stopped smoking with the help of Nicorette's Nasal Spray (excellent stuff if you're a heavy smoker) and Nicorette's Quickmist mouth spray (I'd recommend you buy this, it's good stuff). I also had an ecig too. I stopped using the nasal sprays and mouth sprays after about 3 months and still use the ecig. I still have a nicotine intake and love my ecig, so hard to say if I've really given up smoking or not, but it's certainly a healthier alternative and it's my health that concerned me, which is why I stopped smoking. It's been 5 and a 1/2 months for me now and have no intentions of starting smoking again and I put this down to the help of the ecig. As you're not a heavy smoker, I wouldn't recommend the nasal spray, but I would certainly recommend the Quick mist mouth spray to you and will help you more than gum will I've tried every stop smoking aid available and have a good knowledge of each product available Good luck!
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Re: Quitting smoking...
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18/06/2012 19:43
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My mum has to go for a CT scan this wedmesday after the doctor examined her and found something he didn't like. She is 59 now and has been smoking 20 a day since she was 17.
She has a really bad cough, and smells like a stinking ashtray.
Erlier this year my Grandad dies of complications from Empysema, he stopped smoking 20 years ago but beforehand had smoked since his teens.
I hate the habit, and wish you the best of success stopping. You will feel better for it I am sure, and almost certainly live far longer with a better quality of life.
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Re: Quitting smoking...
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19/06/2012 12:03
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Day 4. Sat at my desk with my knee bouncing around and I'd kill for a cig. I've had some of my e-cig and currently chewing gum. Just got to get to get over the next few days and hoping it'll start getting easier.
Hoping I dont have one at the weekend.
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Re: Quitting smoking...
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21/06/2012 12:35
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I've failed. I gave in yesterday evening and had a couple..... Well, 7. I was very very irratable... although I only bought 10 and I havent taken with me to work today. I'm back on the e-cig again. Figured i'll try and "cut" down and see the doctors for additional help. I have no will power unfortunately
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Re: Quitting smoking...
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21/06/2012 18:11
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It ain't easy Matty but stick at it.
Lack of willpower's my problem too. Have given up countless times for months on end but go on holiday or have a night on the pop and think "I'm having a fag" - more for the wantonness of it rather than actually craving one. Stupid really.
I'll be having another dabble when I get to the end of my duty frees after the latest failed attempt - and when I do it I'll have another read of Stan's sobering post to give me added willpower. Highlighting the health issues of smoking usually puts me right off.
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21/06/2012 18:34
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Don't forget, it is not just lungs that get buggered by smoking, it can screw up just about everything.
How many people are aware of the links between smoking and bladder cancer for example? Think Fred Dibnah for an example of that link.
I had stopped smoking back in 1982, it still was a factor in my developing a very rare form of cancer 25 years later.
Stick with it Matty, it has to be worth the effort.
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Re: Quitting smoking...
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Just to say that's it's now been 7 months since I gave up Never thought I'd reach this stage. I have the biggest and fattest e cig you'll have ever seen and I still have a nicotine intake, but I have none of the harmful effects of smoking and my lungs are thanking me I still enjoy the smell of a proper ciggie and still hang around with smokers, but I don't think I'll ever go back to smoking again To all you that are still trying - keep going and get as much as you can to help you, you'll get there eventually I'll continue with my e cig for the forseeable future, but for now, I'm happy that I'm not taking in all the harmful chemicals that was causing me to wheeze like an 80 year old. From a 60+ a day ex smoker - keep trying
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Great stuff Theresa
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Stan. Truely sorry to read what you been going through. T. You know you can't start again. Well done sincerely for keeping it up. To everyone else it's good to stop or even cut down. Just a pity it's so enjoyable, well at times. My father in law died in his late 50's due to not following advice on smoking as well as diet. It's was very spiteful, I'll end it there! I loved smoking but you just got to admit, it kills you or could take away quality of life which is in some ways worse? I know I mostly post rubbish, but quitting smoking there's no definitive answer, you just have to find what works for you!
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Re: Quitting smoking...
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I am an ex smoker and have not smoked for nearly three years. I am someone who has smoked and quit three times in my adult life. Hence you just got to find what works for you.
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I REALLY REALLY want to quit. Its a wierd one with me. I can go days, sometimes weeks without a ciggy. I think yeah i fancy one, but if i dont have a pack i dont bother. Its when im around other smokers. Or i see someone smoke in teh street, the smell just makes me want one. I then go and buy a pack and im back to square 1. I used the ecigs before but they made me still crave the nicotine. Cold turkey doesnt work for me as so many of my mates smoke and when your down at the pub... or the ace... its just really hard to say no. Going to give it another shot though Any advice would be great
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Re: Quitting smoking...
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I would say just get the eCigs and stick with them. Crave them as much as you like. Follow Theresa's example.
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Re: Quitting smoking...
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01/08/2012 09:06
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E cigs don't really address the root cause, addiction to nicotine. You are still getting it albeit in a less harmful way.
Ultimately it comes down to will power and simply deciding that you are a non-smoker.
I went the cold turkey route.
One morning at work I decided I did not smoke any more and instead of opening a new pack of cigarettes gave it to a work collegue saying that I had stopped smoking.
That was in 1982.
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Worked for me as well, after 2 failed attempts with the book, i switched to the audio book and it worked. I'd been on approximately 10 to 15 a day 6 years to absolutely nothing for the last 2, not even a drag on one.
The thing that made it click for me, was he talked about smoking in stressful situations, you know the ones where your wound up, and go for a quick ciggie. Thing is, smoking doesn't make the situation go away, it's still there when you return, so it hasn't really made you any less stressed if you see what I mean?
The misses also read the book, and knocked a 20 a day habit on the head first time round. Give it a try, yes the book does preach a little, but trust me and others it's definitely worth at least a couple of attempts.
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01/08/2012 12:29
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Cold turkey doesnt work for me as so many of my mates smoke and when your down at the pub... or the ace... its just really hard to say no. My life revolved around smoking and many of my mates smoke, as well as my Mum (she's given up with me now though) and my brother, but I've managed. Use your e cig, while enjoying your mates secondhand smoke Spa was the biggest tester for me this year and you saw for yourself that the e cig worked for me (as well as willpower) E cigs don't really address the root cause, addiction to nicotine. You are still getting it albeit in a less harmful way.
That's my main point though and the only reason people want to give up smoking, is because of the harmful way of obtaining nicotine (as well as costs). E cigs deliver it in a less harmful way and helps you get over that taste for a real ciggie.
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Quite so - I'd be surprised if Petep doesn't get that.
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Re: Quitting smoking...
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01/08/2012 14:37
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I'm not sure I understand your point Brian, but as far as I can see e-ciggies just continue to feed your addiction so you are not really cured of it unless you taper off your use of them to zero. If you continue to use them as a long term substitute there is probably a greater chance of a lapse back into real ciggies at some stage.
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Re: Quitting smoking...
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My point is the same as Theresa's - that regardless of whether you remain addicted to nicotine the health benefit of satisfying it with ecigs is huge.
I suppose there might be a risk of a relapse, but still the benefits are very likely to be substantial.
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Does nicotine cause cancer?
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Re: Quitting smoking...
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It is a component in some types of insecticides, so I don't think it will do you much good. Extracts from from this link are slightly concerning. It functions as an antiherbivore chemical, being a potent neurotoxin with particular specificity to insects; therefore nicotine was widely used as an insecticide in the past, and currently nicotine derivatives such as imidacloprid continue to be widely used
Toxicology
The LD50 of nicotine is 50 mg/kg for rats and 3 mg/kg for mice. 40–60 mg (0.5-1.0 mg/kg) can be a lethal dosage for adult humans.[10] [11] This makes it an extremely deadly poison. It is more toxic than many other alkaloids such as cocaine, which has an LD50 of 95.1 mg/kg when administered to mice.
The carcinogenic properties of nicotine in standalone form, separate from tobacco smoke, have not been evaluated by the IARC, and it has not been assigned to an official carcinogen group. The currently available literature indicates that nicotine, on its own, does not promote the development of cancer in healthy tissue and has no mutagenic properties. Its teratogenic properties have not yet been adequately researched, and while the likelihood of birth defects caused by nicotine is believed to be very small or nonexistent, nicotine replacement product manufacturers recommend consultation with a physician before using a nicotine patch or nicotine gum while pregnant or nursing. However, nicotine and the increased cholinergic activity it causes have been shown to impede apoptosis[citation needed], which is one of the methods by which the body destroys unwanted cells (programmed cell death). Since apoptosis helps to remove mutated or damaged cells that may eventually become cancerous, the inhibitory actions of nicotine create a more favourable environment for cancer to develop. Thus nicotine plays an indirect role in carcinogenesis. It is also important to note that its addictive properties are often the primary motivating factor for tobacco smoking, contributing to the proliferation of cancer. At least one study has concluded that exposure to nicotine alone, not simply as a component of cigarette smoke, could be responsible for some of the neuropathological changes observed in infants dying from Sudden Infant Death Syndrome (SIDS).[12] It has been noted that the majority of people diagnosed with schizophrenia smoke tobacco. Estimates for the number of schizophrenics that smoke range from 75% to 90%. It was recently argued that the increased level of smoking in schizophrenia may be due to a desire to self-medicate with nicotine. [13] [14] More recent research has found the reverse, that it is a risk factor without long-term benefit, used only for its short term effects.[15] However, research on nicotine as administered through a patch or gum is ongoing.
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Re: Quitting smoking...
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Fair comment. I am only saying that giving up smoking, even if continuing to take in nicotine, just has to be good.
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I completely agree with you there Brian. There is so much more dangerous crap in tobacco than nicotine.
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how the hell do people do it?
i have to stop for medical reasons and im struggling like hell.
day 4 and ive had 1 ciggy today as being at work and the usual fag break was a killer.
any tips? Any advice?
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Wasn't there a huge long thread about this? was there???
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Bloody hell, didnt see them.. looked at 2 pages in the general chat and made this post. can some one merge the threads please??
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I find it hard to resist after alchohol, which classes me a smoker lol. During the week I feel no desire to smoke, wake up on sunday hangover and sore throat.
Any one in the same position as a drinker/smoker?
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Thank Turbo bogey i only smoke from 10.30am cant smoke before then, its just wrong. luch time is a pain the the rectom. neveer wanted to smoke more than that. had to go for a walk to get away from it. this is going to be a hard game
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What about the electronic things do theese work for a social smoker?
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with out sounding silly, does any onethink this is all in your mind??
i mean, you just WANT to smoke.. not actually NEEd to smoke?
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26 days... Hmm... If any wants me, I will be in the corner playing with fire.
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I find it hard to resist after alchohol, which classes me a smoker lol. During the week I feel no desire to smoke, wake up on sunday hangover and sore throat.
Any one in the same position as a drinker/smoker? Yeah me. I stopped for nearly 2 years, I went to the pub once and started again
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Its after 1 pint, the smoking zones maybe are the excuse for some banter etc lol ?
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Go outside with the smokers, enjoy the banter, 'enjoy' the smell of their fag smoke (I still do), but use your e cig My biggest tester was with some people on here earlier this year, at the SpaItalia event and I managed not to smoke. I still have nicotine, but I'm not wheezing or coughing like I was when smoking and haven't touched a fag for just over 8 months Does everyone not jump on you going wow e cig can i try?
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didnt mean jump on you directly more of a swarm of unwanted interest with some wanting to try it.
I couldnt share my ecig with a random which may cause offence?
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yes but the ecig will draw far more attention than a random req a draw of your ecig? I have seen this maybe as your female its easier?
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Use it discreetly, as in hand over it and covered when taking a draw. If anyone asks, just pleasantly say 'no, you can't try it sorry, the battery is about to die on it and I really don't want to go back to smoking a real fag'. Or just tell them 'no, I've got a cold sore coming and wouldn't want you to catch it'- they'll soon stay away. No easier by being female and I don't mind people having a go of my e cig, although the size of the e cig I have now scares people
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with out sounding silly, does any onethink this is all in your mind??
i mean, you just WANT to smoke.. not actually NEEd to smoke?
or am i just going crazy? A lot of the time it's a routine For instance filling a 10 minute break or whilst on the phone to the wife. Also association with stress,however smoking is a depressant and can only add to the situation making you feel dependant on them Don't assume that because youve had one that you have failed. That was always my downfall. However be aware of the consiquences of having just one. If your struggling then leave your wallet at home and make sure you have no money on you. The first few days are the hardest, followed by a few days a month on. After that the dependency is gone and that £7 a day adds up. You'll always find yourself with the odd tenner in your wallet as opposed to just receipts. I managed to make it through a stag do in New York for a week when they were all chain smoking barstards. I remember we got back at the hotel at 4am after drinking for around 13 hours straight, and at 7am they all woke up and went outside for a smoke. The smell was quite noticeable which was off putting as was the need to live there lives around smoking. I never craved for one once during he entire time despite there best efforts. If your lucky enough then Hopefully no damage has been caused by smoking all these years so give it up now and don't look back.
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I find it hard to resist after alchohol, which classes me a smoker lol. During the week I feel no desire to smoke, wake up on sunday hangover and sore throat.
Any one in the same position as a drinker/smoker? I find various associated activities 'go' with a smoke, maybe just mental associations, but a drink and a smoke do seem to complement each other, especially brandy and cigars after a very good meal. It's the "I'm relaxing, and all is well with the world" association. There are others... I should state that I've previously quit smoking for 18 months, cold, but I consider all the hoorah far too excessive. All you need is a serious reason to make the committed decision, as it's not something worth playing at, you just have to properly decide to quit.
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All you need is a serious reason to make the committed decision, as it's not something worth playing at, you just have to properly decide to quit. And the real reason is .... ..... Smoking and drinking together multiply the risk of esophageal cancer.
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Smoking and drinking together multiply the risk of esophageal cancer.
Pedant alert: you have failed to provide the baseline risk in a control group and the multiplying factor...
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Smoking and drinking together multiply the risk of esophageal cancer. "Lies, damn lies and statistics", I'd be prepared to consider adequately documented evidence, bearing in mind *my* particular circumstances, of which any studies would take no account.
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My e-Cig pack arrived today.... having sucked on JBT's (go on, open goal here ) on Monday, I decided to take the plunge (another open goal). 58 years old this year, still playing reasonably competitive sport and coughing for England every morning. I have given up before, but always regressed. This kit gives me NO excuse. The novelty value is cool, doesn't taste too bad and hopefully my house won't smell like a 1970's brothel so much Wish me luck, Tim
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Good luck! Think of the extra years you could put back on your life, and see any Grandchildren grow up!
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My e-Cig pack arrived today.... having sucked on JBT's (go on, open goal here ) on Monday, I decided to take the plunge (another open goal). 58 years old this year, still playing reasonably competitive sport and coughing for England every morning. I have given up before, but always regressed. This kit gives me NO excuse. The novelty value is cool, doesn't taste too bad and hopefully my house won't smell like a 1970's brothel so much Wish me luck, Tim Good luck mate,glad you enjoyed sucking on mine. I think the true inspiration for me was when Theresa quit. If she can do it then anyone can. Bloody hell do I feel better for it. And I always have money in my wallet whereas when smoking I never had a penny to my name.
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[ I think the true inspiration for me was when Theresa quit. If she can do it then anyone can.
Thanks Nearly 10 months for me now and certainly won't be going back to smoking. I still use my ecig, it's helped me loads and would recommend one to anyone. 60 a day for years and several goes at quitting, without success, until now
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My son is giving up smoking now, using champix tablets. He says they are brilliant.
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Theresa, you want to give yourself a mahoosive pat on the back. 10 months down the line is you out of the game - that's great.
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I tried Champix, but I didn't feel it did anything for me, as much as I wanted it to The same with patches. I think I need/prefer more physical hits, such as the e cig, nasal spray, mouth sprays, etc. Excellent news that your son is giving up with the help of Champix though Enforcer and I'm glad it's working for him I'm not complacent FF, I'm well aware of the dangers of that I've only really felt the urge to smoke a couple of times though and that's been when I've been under a lot of stress, such as the Coupe breaking down, etc Thankfully though, I've had my e cig to hand I wouldn't go back to smoking now anyway, but can't help but mention how much the e cig has helped me. Yes, it contains Nicotine and possibly other harmful chemicals, but it's stopped me wanting a real fag and inhaling even more harmful chemicals, I no longer wheeze and cough like an 80 year old either
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Bloody hell Theresa, you have saved so much money (theres also the health bit) well done! I'm on day 32 of quiting, I used patches and the spray (gave me awful hiccups). Wish i'd done it years ago. This is my second day without any replacement therapy, suffering from slightly higher anger levels but the chaps at work have had it easy for too long anyway so a bit of a shake up can't hurt
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Why do smokers want a fag when they are stressed? Does it relax you?
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Bloody hell Theresa, you have saved so much money (theres also the health bit) well done! I'm on day 32 of quiting, I used patches and the spray (gave me awful hiccups). Wish i'd done it years ago. This is my second day without any replacement therapy, suffering from slightly higher anger levels but the chaps at work have had it easy for too long anyway so a bit of a shake up can't hurt Excellent, well done Keep with the mouth spray if you find yourself tempted, it's good stuff. The hiccups are a common side effect, they don't last long and you will get used to it I think you have something like 3 times more chance of stopping if you use something to help you, so don't feel like you have to go without nicotine at first. If you're struggling with the mouth spray, maybe try the nasal spray, that's good too Why do smokers want a fag when they are stressed? Does it relax you? It does relax you in a way, as it gives you a couple of minutes to step back and have a think about what's stressing you. Other people may bite their nails, go and make a coffee or whatever, whereas smokers will pause for a fag.
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Does help but smoking is a depressant don't forget.
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Does help but smoking is a depressant don't forget. Please let me forget as I'm feeling depressed
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When are you quitting Tim ?.
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36 hours ago...
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36 hours ago... Brilliant . Did you get the vip's ?
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Thought I would resurrect this thread with a progress update.
Ive tried to stop smoking before and ive always craved while ive tried to quit and its always lead to me starting again. Usually two week is the maximum.
Its now been 3 weeks without a cig, ive just gone completely cold turkey. Its really strange this time. I just haven't craved a smoke, ive been around people who smoke, ive been out drinking with people who smoke and ive just not been temped. Its strange.... but great! I decided before new year to stop, woke up one morning and just did that.
I had a very strange dream which I thought I would share, it was around the first few days of quitting. I was with some of you guys, we were heading to SPA. All our cars were parked outside a hotel, in the middle of a field (strange). Everyone was getting their cars ready, I was sitting in the back of mine. My brother came over (he doesn't smoke) he handed me a smoke I took it, look at my hands and my fingers went black so I throwed it away.
Since that night ive not looked at cigarettes in the same way. Fingers crossed this is the one and I don't lapse. Thought I would share...
Hows everyone else getting on?
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Cheers Jim I hope its the same for me too. right now I have no desire what so ever to smoke which is great
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Well done Mario .
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Well done dude just keep to your guns and it's worth it.
I've been quite for over a year me and Jbt had money on it so we had something to loose which ups the pressure not to smoke.
Them e cigs helped for those crap stressful days.
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I quit on the 16th Sept and really haven't missed it at all. Bit like jim it was almost switch like, I pity those that are still hooked. The money saved helped at first, but hitting the 1000 fags not smoked was a massive mental picture that put the final nail in. Keep it up guys!
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I started smoking again 3 yrs ago after quitting for 5 yrs, and prior to that had stopped before for around 2 yrs. Strangely, the second time was easier and I would have never started again but circumstances arose in my life that gave me 2 options, and i chose the 2nd which saw me head of to the shop for a 10 pack, thinking i could just stop once it had all blown over, but it's one thing after another that keeps happening to me that has kept me on them. I'm always being told how much money i would save if i quit, but to be honest when i had quit for the 5 yrs i used to wonder how i had afforded to smoke as i didn't have any extra money in my pocket and wondered where the money came from when i did smoke I'm currently unemployed (i'm actually self employed with very little work coming in) living off £85 a week (I don't claim dole) have a mortgage, council tax, utility bills, and general household bills to pay (not to mention trying to get a coupe on the road ) and spend £45 to £50 a week on tabs struggling is an understatement. I half heartedly attempted to quit a couple of months ago and bought an ecig, but it just made me feel funny and i barely used it, but i have seen the vapour kits where you can choose different flavours e.g. cola, vanilla, bannana, strawberry, coffee etc. and i'm considering giving it another go with one of these. Even though they still contain nicotine, i don't consider it stopping smoking imo, but you can get the liquids that are nicotine free, so will be changing to these after a while. I play 5-a-side on wednesday nights, albeit in goal, and last week a player got injured and i (stupidly?) offered to change places with him. I took off my gloves, ran from my box up to the opposite teams box, and almost past out. I couldn't breath, and was gasping for breath and everyone knows how big a 5-a-side pitch is. I know i'm slightly overweight (think, pregnant man ) and that won't of helped, but the cigs will be the major factor. So, considering the money i'll apparently save (didn't see the savings last time) my health, and the fact both my grandfathers died of cancer, my nanna has just been giving the all clear after having most of a lung cut out, and my mother once having cancer, all of whom were smokers (my mother still is ) I think it's time i give it up. So i'm going to pick a day and start using my ecig and put up with it until i get enough saved for a vapour kit. This is the kit i'm after http://vapingliquid.com/electronic-cigarette-starter-kit/ce5-deluxe-kit-
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30/05/2013 15:44
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I forgot about this thread! Suprised it's still going.
Well done to those who have quit. I, i'm ashamed to say, haven't quit.
I'm still smoking but not as much and i'm on rolls ups which actually have helped me cut down because I can't be bothered to roll haha
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30/05/2013 15:47
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Swin, please buy and read "The Easy Way to Give Up Smoking" by Allen Carr. It may be called something slightly different, but it's something like that. The book cost me £7 and once I actually read the bloody thing, I stopped totally (over ten years ago). It doesn't work for everyone, but you clearly *want* to stop, so all you can lose is a few quid on the book. Have a look at these clips: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MwbcWP97-YU
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Thanks for that Jim, i will head off to the shops over the weekend and have look for it, it can do no harm reading it i suppose. I wouldn't care i've seen this book a few times and just thought a book won't work, but clearly it can
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