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Re: MOT changes? HIDS and chipped ECUs [Re: Nigel] #1297065
13/12/2011 12:18
13/12/2011 12:18

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Originally Posted By: Nigel
growlingbear - sounds like a dodgy connection or maybe the airbag ECU


You still got the pod for the sykes for that? If so Pm me.

Ross

Re: MOT changes? HIDS and chipped ECUs [Re: ] #1297115
13/12/2011 13:44
13/12/2011 13:44
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M5, 6th gear, 2400rpm
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I wanted to fit HID's to my A4 but decided against it due to the new legislation.

Instead, I went for Osram night breakers which are better than standard but no where near as good as the HID's I had on the Coupe and the S3.


Re: MOT changes? HIDS and chipped ECUs [Re: Nigel] #1297285
13/12/2011 21:31
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Originally Posted By: Nigel
growlingbear - sounds like a dodgy connection or maybe the airbag ECU
cheers Nigel. Tell me about it. It's been into Motormech loads of times now and its the same old problem. Various connectors have been re-assembled/cleaned. ECU reset etc. Can't imagine now how it'll pass this new MOT unless I get the ECU reset the day before and hope for the best.


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Re: MOT changes? HIDS and chipped ECUs [Re: ] #1299122
21/12/2011 05:58
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Re: MOT changes? HIDS and chipped ECUs [Re: stan] #1304818
10/01/2012 14:03
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Hi all,

Just to bring this topic back up as i am considering upgrading to HID's....with all this talk of MOT's i decided to email VOSA directly to ask them about the changes to 2012 MOT's, and this was their reply:

"HiD and LED headlamp levelling and washing systems will only be tested where they are fitted. If they are found to be inoperative or otherwise obviously defective they will fail. In the case of headlamp levelling, the tester must be certain that the system is operative before failing, as on some of these systems it is not possible to readily determine that they work as intended.

The reason the test is this way is because not all HiD headlamps are legally required to be fitted with these systems. To be mandatory, the headlamp has to be over 2000 lumen. Generally, it is not possible for an MOT tester to determine whether this is the case, so the test is 'simplified' to take account of this.

DfT produce a factsheet on aftermarket HiD headlamps at http://www2.dft.gov.uk/pgr/roadsafety/drs/hidheadlamps.html although this does not mention the 2000 lumen requirement.

I hope this information has assisted you with your enquiry, but if you have any further questions please do not hesitate to contact us again."

Does this clear things up or have i asked the wrong questions? Apologies if i have...im not technical minded when it comes to cars!

Thanks.

Dan

Re: MOT changes? HIDS and chipped ECUs [Re: ] #1304822
10/01/2012 14:16
10/01/2012 14:16
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Banbury
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Mine passed in December with HID's.


362bhp of warble

Re: MOT changes? HIDS and chipped ECUs [Re: ] #1304824
10/01/2012 14:33
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Milton Keynes
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so did mine


if things don't change they'll stay the same
Re: MOT changes? HIDS and chipped ECUs [Re: ] #1304826
10/01/2012 14:36
10/01/2012 14:36
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The changes are not introduced until April 2012, so the testing parameters were different then.


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Re: MOT changes? HIDS and chipped ECUs [Re: ] #1304827
10/01/2012 15:11
10/01/2012 15:11
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stockport
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what a crock..... have a new bonnet fitted last year after a blind old fool reversed into me and it now has head light wash jets in it...... and they are not plumbed in.....can somebody tell me how they are supposed to work lights off not working lights on working how they work is it when you wash the windscreen and has anybody got a European washer bottle

Re: MOT changes? HIDS and chipped ECUs [Re: ] #1304938
10/01/2012 22:34
10/01/2012 22:34
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Lightwater, Surrey
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Wifey's V40 has wipers (not washers) on the headlights and they come on with the windscreen washers, so I assume that headlight washers should work the same?


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Re: MOT changes? HIDS and chipped ECUs [Re: ] #1305176
11/01/2012 15:46
11/01/2012 15:46
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London, UK
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Just returned after my coupe passed it's MOT with; HIB's, Chipped, airbag light on and blue side lights. I feel very lucky.

Re: MOT changes? HIDS and chipped ECUs [Re: Serg1] #1305180
11/01/2012 15:53
11/01/2012 15:53

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Originally Posted By: Serg1
Just returned after my coupe passed it's MOT with; HIB's, Chipped, airbag light on and blue side lights. I feel I got my money's worth from my bribe.



Fixed that for you!! laugh

Ross

Re: MOT changes? HIDS and chipped ECUs [Re: ] #1305182
11/01/2012 15:56
11/01/2012 15:56
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Yes but the new regs don't apply 'til April as per Pete's post ? - so i'll hold off putting HIDS on the black LE until after that I think, assuming people can still pass !


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Re: MOT changes? HIDS and chipped ECUs [Re: ] #1305183
11/01/2012 15:57
11/01/2012 15:57
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It's incredible what some people will do for a bag of Jelly beans!!

Re: MOT changes? HIDS and chipped ECUs [Re: ] #1329736
28/03/2012 22:21
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Just updating this to say my LE flew through the MoT today - no mention of HIDS (OK its pre April still!) or my cut down Number plates (12mm min border still).

Re: MOT changes? HIDS and chipped ECUs [Re: ] #1330183
30/03/2012 00:14
30/03/2012 00:14

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Glad to see smile

Re: MOT changes? HIDS and chipped ECUs [Re: ] #1330188
30/03/2012 00:25
30/03/2012 00:25

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I'm mot'in my car on sat which is the 31st to avoid the new regs.

Ross

Re: MOT changes? HIDS and chipped ECUs [Re: ] #1330208
30/03/2012 02:01
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My MOT's run out and my brake lines are in bits rolleyes looks like mine might be the first to be tested under new regs next week. I'm going to give it a go with HID's in and see what happens confused

Re: MOT changes? HIDS and chipped ECUs [Re: ] #1330402
30/03/2012 18:17
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Just to repeat what I posted on an MOT thread a wee while back:-

Originally Posted By: Baz76
Well it looks like our HID kits are fine for the MOT after asking the question at the VOSA seminar I attended last night. As has been mentioned above there is no requirement in the inspection manual for there to washers or automatic headlight adjusters,but if they are fitted then they must work.

The only ones who'll have to worry about aftermarket HID's now are those that are fitted to reflector lens headlights as the beam image is usually all over the place with them!


You shouldn't be able to get a failure as there will be no "Reason for Refusal" text for the NT to select wink .

Baz smile


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Re: MOT changes? HIDS and chipped ECUs [Re: Baz76] #1330421
30/03/2012 19:21
30/03/2012 19:21
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Banbury, Oxfordshire
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Mines having it's service & MOT 2nd weekend in April.
My dad will be doing these for me cool
But he's a fussy git so i better get my tyres sorted out.

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Re: MOT changes? HIDS and chipped ECUs [Re: ] #1330469
30/03/2012 20:39
30/03/2012 20:39

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Booked in for Monday, let's see (punn intended) smile

Re: MOT changes? HIDS and chipped ECUs [Re: ] #1331059
02/04/2012 10:59
02/04/2012 10:59
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Mines in for an MOT today. I asked about the HID's and non-functioning headlamp levelers and was told that it will be ok this year, but next year will be a failure.

Will report back this afternoon.

Re: MOT changes? HIDS and chipped ECUs [Re: ] #1331141
02/04/2012 14:15
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Well she passed!

Re: MOT changes? HIDS and chipped ECUs [Re: ] #1331169
02/04/2012 14:55
02/04/2012 14:55
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Well I'm quite surprised to read this.

I had a WOF (MOT) licence in New Zealand and practiced for over 10 years.

All of the items mentioned on the first link to this thread are indeed fail items since the early '00. Some like the chipped ECU and HID etc came in later. However HID kits would not pass in a reflector lamp under the old rules anyway. There is some onus on the owner/driver to ensure their car is legal. It is impractical to check for a modified ECU during an inspection. In NZ you can have almost any modification you want, only some need to be approved or certified.

Airbag and ABS warning lights are pretty standard. They are warning lights telling you there is something wrong at the end of the day. Both the lights need to operate correctly, i.e. turn on when the key is on and go out once the engine is started. Yes you can rewire these but it does not really happen.

I would have thought little old New Zealand would be rather relaxed compared to the mother country. Looks like I was wrong. However there is no emission requirements.



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