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lowering springs
#1171644
15/02/2011 20:55
15/02/2011 20:55
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sully
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sully
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Hi there my car is a 20vt with standard suspension,can i put a set of lowering springs on standard shocks,if so how much and what make to recomend Thanks.
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#1171720
15/02/2011 22:21
15/02/2011 22:21
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DannyW31
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Hi, Sorry to rail road this thread....but i've got a similar question to ask. I've just had 18" alloys fitted and after researching the site I'm looking to replace the standard springs with Eibachs (and eventuallty the dampners with Blisteins) to lower the car onto the 18's slightly....and make me coupe look...well awesome. But before ordering......I just want to be sure that the coupe won't bottom out/hit the arches...and won't effect the turning circle even more(???) with this set up. Also does anyone know the approx cost of getting the springs fitted?..... Sorry.... I also realise that this thread should also probably be posted under the handling section. But reckon me Sully should get away with this as newbies Many thanks
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#1171864
16/02/2011 09:17
16/02/2011 09:17
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Steve^
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Steve^
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Standard shocks and lowered eibach springs, do the job (of lowering the car) but in my opinion cock the ride quality up. But perhaps I am too old. On mine it was rock hard and as I have lots of speed bumps where I live it want long before the dash started squeaking etc. I have always loved driving the coupe, and I ended up getting very fed up with it after 6 months and we often opted to take the focus as it was a more pleasant if somewhat slower place to be down the country roads...which is just wrong.
That said, I am the wrong side of 35 and perhaps getting to old.... I once had one of the most highly tuned coupe's in the UK, now i am smitten with a bog standard one with minor engine mods up to 250 bhp.
In MY opinion it would be better to wait till you can afford to also buy some bilstein B6 shocks that have a shorter piston to accommodate lowered springs, so you get the the extra handling with out the crashy ride as the pistons ar not always squashed down onto the high load capacity even at stand still.
In the same way - the shocks have to be removed to fit the springs so by doing the two jobs at different times it will be more expensive.
Probably not the advice you wanted!
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#1171940
16/02/2011 11:48
16/02/2011 11:48
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BoostMeCoupeUp
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my opinion forget the shock's just get some eibach lowering springs! its way cheaper and I found the shocks make it more crashy and eibachs dont spoil the ride its a bit bumper and harder but to be expected in a performance car.
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#1172009
16/02/2011 13:40
16/02/2011 13:40
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Steve^
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B8's will do that.
B16's however are still not 2K, and are certainly not standard setups!
They have 9 different comfort settings you can adjust while on the car for one thing!
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#1172022
16/02/2011 14:01
16/02/2011 14:01
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Steve^
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Bilstein Sprint Shortened Shock Absorbers (B8) These Bilstein B8 Sprint Shock Absorbers have the same quality and damping power as the Bilstein B6 Sports Range, but with shortened piston rods. This makes them the ideal choice for cars with more than 40mm of lowering The gas pressure technology of the Bilstein B8 Range offers a marked improvement in safety and sportiness Nope - no B16's for the coop
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#1172196
16/02/2011 21:17
16/02/2011 21:17
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Steve^
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Steve^
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cheapest way - lowering springs, probably H&R
Just not the best way
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#1172237
16/02/2011 22:18
16/02/2011 22:18
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Steve^
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because I am too old, in MY opinion which probably is in the minority it ruins the ride quality but does feel sharper, if a bit unrefined. Many would disagree...I will wind my neck in..
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#1172263
16/02/2011 22:51
16/02/2011 22:51
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Steve^
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Ride height will be governed by the springs. The car sits on the springs, the dampers... well damp
Also which billies? before or B8?
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#1172544
17/02/2011 15:55
17/02/2011 15:55
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Steve^
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Steve^
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well I guess so. Novitec were evil, eibachs better
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#1172583
17/02/2011 16:51
17/02/2011 16:51
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Yes I have a set of Apex springs at hone, so would welcome your thoughts on them once fitted tonyd..
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#1172745
17/02/2011 21:45
17/02/2011 21:45
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BoostMeCoupeUp
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I have had apex and eibachs recomend them both.
Eibachs slightly SLIGHTLY better ride Apex seem to perform better strangely Apex did sqeek for about 3 months on the front spring dont know why but doesn't do it anymore. Eibachs used to scrub with my 18s on going over bumps Apex never have
I think they are very similar but the Eibachs are progresivly wound which will explain the slight extra comfort.
This is how i found them both fitted as new but eibachs on my old 20vt and Apex on my current 20vt which may be a big factor in the diffrence's as not fitted to exactly the same car.
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#1172951
18/02/2011 11:29
18/02/2011 11:29
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Nazo
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I have had Billies + Eibachs for 6 years now and last week now changed to FCSS springs offered in the Group Buy.
Found the ride crashy with lowered Eibachs, but much improved handling. FCSS springs are actually 35mm and ride is more comfortable.
In any case lowering the coop has caused other issues such as speed bumps scraping my exhaust, which eventually broke my exhaust backbox, and more recently cracked my springs. Sports springs such as Eibach are set to a specific torsion setting, and what speedbumps do is compress them beyond the expected ratio; which in my case was bad news.
It all depends where you live, how many potholes, speedbumps you will go over on a regular basis.
Positive side is looks fab, much better handling (with the bille dampers) and you can live with the ride.
A better setup would involve OSRAV dampers.
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#1173181
18/02/2011 17:08
18/02/2011 17:08
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Nazo
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Eibachs have cracked.
Depends on how you drive over the speed bumps, and on occasions I didnt slow right down. Excessive strain and wear will reduce the operating life-cycle of any product.
I have to pass over at least 6 speed bumps to work and 6 more on exit. The bumps are quite high, as it is a business park. Furthermore potholes have caused no end of pain. Surprised my wheels havent buckled.
The damage effected ball joints, top mounts, bushes and put a lot of play in the engine area. Now shes got all new suspension bit and pieces, I plan to drive my other car to work.
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