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Info for those with a CAT fitted to any vehicle
#1142847
11/12/2010 10:41
11/12/2010 10:41
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jase
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jase
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This is a piece of information the wife had at work - thought it may be important to let you know, those that are running round with these on the car still.
CATalytic Burgulars
Catalytic converter theft in the U.K. is on the rise. The increase is believed to be fuelled by a difficult economy and the high price of the precious metals contained in the devices – one converter will raise at least £150. The average catalytic converter contains one to two grams of three precious metals – platinum,palladium and rhodium – and the international prices of these metals have risen 67%, 200% and 600% respectively over the past two years.
It only takes six minutes for an experienced thief to remove a catalytic converter from a vehicle. The part is then sold and often shipped off to be recycled in Poland, Canada, China and Latvia to have its precious metals extracted. Although the theft of catalytic converters should be covered under your motor insurance, any claim will be subject to the policy excess. Insurers would normally cover the cost of replacement of the catalytic converter, subject to the cost not exceeding the market value of the car, or the declared value given by the policyholder, whichever the less. Garaging your car and parking in well lit areas can help reduce the risk of theft, as will watching out for people working under cars that don’t look like they should be there. If your car is high risk, then also consider marking the device so if the thief is caught it can be traced to you.
Regards Jase
Last edited by jase; 11/12/2010 18:03.
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Re: Info for those still driving with a CAT fitted
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#1142850
11/12/2010 10:48
11/12/2010 10:48
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mikeyg
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mikeyg
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This problem seems to have been going on a while now, i work in parts,and the amount of cats we have sold over the last couple of years for light commercials,especially Transits/VW LT's because the original have been stolen is quite high.
Light commercial stuff is probably much more common as its easier to quickly and easily get underneath to cut it off.
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Re: Info for those still driving with a CAT fitted
[Re: whatmoretyres]
#1142870
11/12/2010 12:18
11/12/2010 12:18
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DaveM
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DaveM
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the cats got nicked off the vans next door a couple of weeks back - polcie asked to see our cctv of the car park, apparently they get £400 for them (guess a van has a bigger cat). If anybody wants to try and get under my car though good luck to them, I'll hear them ripping the skirts off and swearing before they get the cat
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Re: Info for those still driving with a CAT fitted
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#1142873
11/12/2010 12:23
11/12/2010 12:23
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Truffle
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Truffle
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I was going to say, i dont think the coupe has much to worry about, if you can get under there to get it off, then all good luck to you More likely to be vans, and 4X4's
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Re: Info for those still driving with a CAT fitted
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#1142934
11/12/2010 17:57
11/12/2010 17:57
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jase
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jase
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Not scaremongering Just giving out some info that we received. I'm sure most of you own another car/van/4x4 thats not low to the ground. I wont bother commenting again.
Last edited by jase; 11/12/2010 18:00.
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Re: Info for those still driving with a CAT fitted
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#1142936
11/12/2010 18:02
11/12/2010 18:02
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dlongstaff
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dlongstaff
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Although it's not the easiest of cars to get under, a heads up of being aware is always a good thing Jase.
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Re: Info for those still driving with a CAT fitted
[Re: jame5]
#1143012
11/12/2010 21:14
11/12/2010 21:14
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cheech
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cheech
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unless its decatted . its like people have never heard of trolley jack. and they arent going to care about skirts when ramming the jack under let alone is on bit that will damage floor etc
im sure the peole who steal cats have more then just a spanner. i ve even seen car where it looks like some one took petrol disc cutter to get the bit they wanted
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Re: Info for those still driving with a CAT fitted
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#1143027
11/12/2010 22:03
11/12/2010 22:03
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dlongstaff
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dlongstaff
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Things that have happened around me lately.., nothing surprises me to what lenghts they go to! I did hear that scrap yards are going to be brought inline. Rather than turning up with a load of metal and cash handed over that there will be a registration/ id declaration setup in place. Without taking this too far off coupe chat. One example is that the the rubbish was emptied out from our large waste bin at work. The bin then taken. Like mentioned, wheels being stolen is common and a jack is used. It's just an evolution from that. Airbags are not uncommon too. Unfortunately, nothing you can do unless you catch them in the act! And then you can't hurt them apparently?
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Re: Info for those still driving with a CAT fitted
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#1143032
11/12/2010 22:11
11/12/2010 22:11
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cheech
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cheech
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well they tend to either be smackheads , or some very nasty people and if you did confront them they will leg it or fight
what you going to do against some one with say a 2ft odd half inch breaker bar who does not want to get knicked and will kick your head in quite happly if caught ? you may be alone or GF wife kids in house they wont be alone and wont have people they care about
im just saying as it ok to say i will fight them etc. but i think people under estimate these poeple and what lenght they go to , to make money and remain free
most of the time its best not to be a hero
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Re: Info for those still driving with a CAT fitted
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#1143048
11/12/2010 22:51
11/12/2010 22:51
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Paul_Murf
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Paul_Murf
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I did hear that scrap yards are going to be brought inline The police also seem to be doing random spot checks at scrappies. Last time i was there the cops were checking people that were in private vans/cars etc. If you were in a company marked van they didn't bother. The scrappy i go to ( with cable, not with cat converters!) now logs the number plate of the vehicle you are in and you have to give a name and address although theres no checks as to whether the details are legitimate.
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Re: Info for those still driving with a CAT fitted
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#1143050
11/12/2010 22:56
11/12/2010 22:56
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proccy
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proccy
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don't people have to account for where they got them from? you don't just get your hands on dozens of cats from nowhere
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Re: Info for those still driving with a CAT fitted
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#1143051
11/12/2010 23:07
11/12/2010 23:07
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cheech
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cheech
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if people took the time to read the 1st post it would explain where they go . if you didnt already know
if you also think this is people doing one off batch your wrong. this is along lines of organised crime they do it on mass scale . will go to lot of lenghts to export out the uk to less controlled places then uk .
these may be same people who break in to high voltage eletric sub stations etc
the police can only do so much , and i expect only catch a small % of what is being stolen/traded in illegal
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Re: Info for those still driving with a CAT fitted
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#1143052
11/12/2010 23:11
11/12/2010 23:11
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proccy
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proccy
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but in other posts it refers to scrapyards being involved - were they lying?
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Re: Info for those still driving with a CAT fitted
[Re: Jack]
#1143055
11/12/2010 23:15
11/12/2010 23:15
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proccy
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proccy
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for cats you can walk in with them they just ask for a reg, you find the people who nick them are gypo's yeah i'd heard that - hardly an international trade is it? i'd expect it's the scrappies and their contacts who export them by container load, hence the reason they pay that money in the first place
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Re: Info for those still driving with a CAT fitted
[Re: Jack]
#1143058
11/12/2010 23:21
11/12/2010 23:21
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cheech
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cheech
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no ,no one is lying but what if scrap yard in on it too ,if owner whats more money turns blind eye and what good is taking car/van reg used if isnt theirs or even stolen its self
you see people in non company logo vans picking up/stealing exhaust and cats from tyre/exhaust shops
you get honset people and unhonset people in all trades all over the world
people should stop being so naive , im not aiming this at anyone just saying
Last edited by cheech; 11/12/2010 23:22.
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Re: Info for those still driving with a CAT fitted
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#1143061
11/12/2010 23:26
11/12/2010 23:26
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cheech
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cheech
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in the docks they fill containers up with loads of scrap to hide stolen cars under , as chances of customs opening and searching every container is such a small %
no not all of it is international trade , but it happens none the less
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Re: Info for those still driving with a CAT fitted
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#1143063
11/12/2010 23:39
11/12/2010 23:39
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cheech
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cheech
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im not say the theifs fill a container them self and ship
but it all goes through some where . like a shop taking cash payment avoiding vat etc
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Re: Info for those still driving with a CAT fitted
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#1143462
13/12/2010 02:16
13/12/2010 02:16
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Nazo
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Nazo
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Hey..its a fair point raised by jase..
If like me you are decatted, and my CAT is well hidden under boxes and tyres in my locked garage, then less worry all round.
capice?
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