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Camber bolts, worth it?
#1118037
20/10/2010 22:04
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Been reading alot about camber bolts lately. Are they really worth £50? Are they quick and simple to fit? Where/who would/could set them up for me?
My car already has: Upper strut brace Billies Eibachs
And is just a fast road car, never tracked and never will be. So, will I notice any difference?
Thanks, Maurizio.
Last edited by technics; 20/10/2010 22:05.
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Re: Camber bolts, worth it?
[Re: Nigel]
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20/10/2010 22:45
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Thanks Nigel, sounds good.
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Re: Camber bolts, worth it?
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20/10/2010 23:41
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Yes, you'll notice the difference (how much depends on the camber you set to - most people go for about -1 to -1.5 degrees) what are the noticeable differences of having camber bolts ?.....
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Next camber bolt Q. Where from?
#1118096
20/10/2010 23:53
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Googled it, but cant really find them for sale?
Who do them anyway, just H&R?
Where can I buy them from?
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Re: Next camber bolt Q. Where from?
[Re: technics]
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20/10/2010 23:55
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Flea bay have some for £15.50. Can't do link.... .
I'm an old git & happy with it,most of the time
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Re: Camber bolts, worth it?
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20/10/2010 23:55
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Whats the tyre wear situation like with the camber bolts though, along with tramlining or any instability at high speed?
Davie
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Re: Next camber bolt Q. Where from?
[Re: technics]
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21/10/2010 08:57
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I done a group buy for some last year! I will find the link!
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Re: Next camber bolt Q. Where from?
[Re: mr_tickle]
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21/10/2010 09:57
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found it! give these guys a call and i think they may still honour the discount as we purchased so many from them!!
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Re: Camber bolts, worth it?
[Re: mr_tickle]
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21/10/2010 10:14
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bought mine from Marco on here, about £25 i think - dunno if he still has them....
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Re: Next camber bolt Q. Where from?
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21/10/2010 10:17
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Well done marco, cheers mate.
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Re: Next camber bolt Q. Where from?
[Re: technics]
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21/10/2010 10:48
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Get eibach or H&R bolts - and make sure that they are genuine if you get them from ebay. If they break it's not going to be pleasant.
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Re: Next camber bolt Q. Where from?
[Re: Jimbo]
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21/10/2010 11:06
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the bolts from the GB place are good original ones!
in fact, if there is enough interest i may set another one up and get people turning better!
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Re: Next camber bolt Q. Where from?
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21/10/2010 11:10
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Re: Next camber bolt Q. Where from?
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21/10/2010 12:07
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Simply put, you can go round a corner or bend much faster & be more planted than you would expect. Someone will be along & give a more tech' explanation, but that's really all you need to know. I'll try and expand a bit more as to why it's better on a bend. When the camber is set at 0 degrees and you load the car up into a corner, the contact patch of the tyre on the road will not be 100% fully on the road, but when you adjust the wheels to a negative camber and you load the car up, you get more contact surface from the tyre on the road. If i had pictures, it would make things so much easier to explain.
Your car is Usain Bolt with wellies
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Re: Next camber bolt Q. Where from?
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21/10/2010 12:24
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Simply put, you can go round a corner or bend much faster & be more planted than you would expect. Someone will be along & give a more tech' explanation, but that's really all you need to know. I'll try and expand a bit more as to why it's better on a bend. When the camber is set at 0 degrees and you load the car up into a corner, the contact patch of the tyre on the road will not be 100% fully on the road, but when you adjust the wheels to a negative camber and you load the car up, you get more contact surface from the tyre on the road. If i had pictures, it would make things so much easier to explain. That's the one
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Re: Next camber bolt Q. Where from?
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21/10/2010 12:43
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hope this helps
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Re: Next camber bolt Q. Where from?
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21/10/2010 12:52
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If anyone is interested in reading up more on this: http://www.ozebiz.com.au/racetech/theory/align.htmlThink about it this way - with positive camber when you load up the outside front wheel pushing the car in a corner the tyre deforms as well as the suspension geometry as the shock compresses. This means the outside edge of the tyre takes the brunt of the load, which is why the outside edges of tyres wear faster is you drive a car hard. You want the load to be spread across the whole surface of the tyre to get maximum grip when the wheel is loaded up for cornering. However when the wheel is not loaded up you end up with a setup that is the opposite in a straight line - the inside edge of the tyre takes most of the load, so if you go to extremes you will get a lot of tramlining, inside edge tyre wear, and in a FWD car running a lot of power it will also compromise how much power you can put down in a straight line, as well as how effectively you can brake in a straight line (bear in mind the coupe is very front heavy when braking.) I've messed about with camber settings a lot on a coupe, and what you go for depends on the suspension you run. On standard suspension you will get more weight transference and compression when pushing hard running negative camber. This means more grip at the front - and more tail happy behavior as well as less understeer, which is something to be aware of if you are not used to it. If on stock suspension go for -1.0, if on uprated then -1.3, any more than that on the road is too much IMO.
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Re: Next camber bolt Q. Where from?
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24/10/2010 13:26
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I've got a set, does anyone know anyone in S.E Essex who could fit them and set up for me?
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28/10/2010 10:57
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