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help with my turbo? #1048623
06/06/2010 19:29
06/06/2010 19:29

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hi there can anyone please tell me where i can get a bigger turbo kit for my car, i have a 2.0 16v turbo fiat coupe and am running just a standard turbo. please if anyone could tell me where i could purchase one.

Thanks

Re: help with my turbo? [Re: ] #1048768
07/06/2010 07:14
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Not sure if Rog's upgraded models will fit, contact power italia - number should be in the traders section smile

Re: help with my turbo? [Re: ] #1048869
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Escort Cosworth turbochargers use the same 3-bolt turbine housing so you can fit a T34 destined for a Escort Cosworth. There a couple on Ebay now.

You could also build / have built for you a hybrid using a T04E compressor housing and comp. wheel modified to suit. Again there are a couple on Ebay.

Nobody does a 'kit' as such for the 16VT. So you'll have to be awesome like the rest of us 16VT owners get handy with a spanner and angle grinder. cool

I'm assuming you know there's more to power than just a bigger turbo though smile

Re: help with my turbo? [Re: kj16v] #1050174
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If you want a linear amount of power (about 200-300 hp) for a 16VT wouldn't the GT28RS be the best?

Re: help with my turbo? [Re: ] #1050197
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Originally Posted By: Jhon
If you want a linear amount of power (about 200-300 hp) for a 16VT wouldn't the GT28RS be the best?


Turbine Inlet:
gt28 series has T25 flange (as on 20vt mainfold), and stock 16vt mainfold has T3 flange,so it's not a direct fit...

Turbine Outlet:
gt28 series has 5-bolt outlet, so a new or reworked downpipe is required.

Re: help with my turbo? [Re: ] #1050206
09/06/2010 13:21
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So what is the best turbo for a linear amount of power without to much fiddling for a 16VT?

Re: help with my turbo? [Re: ] #1050219
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Well if you just want a bit more power (+20/30 bhp) and a similar feel to stock then the same turbo rebuilt with a 60 trim comp would be the best. But there are restrictions than need getting rid of first before even bothering with a turbo . The stock 2" elbow needs to go in place of a 2.5" or bigger. Actually just that and a remap or revised chip would give you the same result without the expense of a new turbo.

Aer you any good with fabrication?

Re: help with my turbo? [Re: ] #1050224
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Originally Posted By: Jhon
So what is the best turbo for a linear amount of power without to much fiddling for a 16VT?


By "linear power" You probably mean decent power with quick spool and little lag? Because there isn't "linear power delivery" on turbocharged cars, the torque curve surges to max after spool and stays flat or declining towards the redline... it's never "linear" compared to N/A engine.

There's a 16VT Tuning Workshop with a section dedicated to turbine upgrades...

Re: help with my turbo? [Re: ] #1050256
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Originally Posted By: slaf
hi there can anyone please tell me where i can get a bigger turbo kit for my car, i have a 2.0 16v turbo fiat coupe and am running just a standard turbo. please if anyone could tell me where i could purchase one.

Thanks


I can get you this turbo kit, bolt-on, no angle grinder needed wink
http://www.lanciahf.eu/stage3.html

kit includes:

- custom T3/T04E ball bearing turbo and oil feed line
- 500CC injectors
- Mapping for T3/T4 and 500CC injectors

click to enlarge

Aditionally i can provide:
- stainless steel 2.75" downpipe (again bolts straight on):
click to enlarge
- uprated ignition coils and leads:
click to enlarge


Re: help with my turbo? [Re: ] #1050278
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Originally Posted By: Marko_hr
Originally Posted By: Jhon
So what is the best turbo for a linear amount of power without to much fiddling for a 16VT?


By "linear power" You probably mean decent power with quick spool and little lag? Because there isn't "linear power delivery" on turbocharged cars, the torque curve surges to max after spool and stays flat or declining towards the redline... it's never "linear" compared to N/A engine.

There's a 16VT Tuning Workshop with a section dedicated to turbine upgrades...

Exactly, that is what I meant.
Here is an example of a "turbo blast":
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TQeFgkyZy-s&feature=channel

If i'm intrested in a turbo with little lag, which one I need to choose?

Re: help with my turbo? [Re: ] #1050312
09/06/2010 15:59
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You are saying you want a larger turbo but how much do you have to spend and what other mods do you have if you are still on a standard engine you can go for a T34 upgrade which is very common and your old turbo can be sent off to be refurbished into a T34 and these are good for making 300bhp with correct midifications.

Re: help with my turbo? [Re: ] #1050542
09/06/2010 23:01
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Originally Posted By: dink
...I can get you this turbo kit, bolt-on, no angle grinder needed wink
http://www.lanciahf.eu/stage3.html...


Tres bien! thumb What price?

BTW, He'll still need an angle grinder to fit the FMIC! Unless you have a solution that fits perfectly behind the bumper?

Re: help with my turbo? [Re: kj16v] #1050615
10/06/2010 08:51
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Originally Posted By: kj16v
Originally Posted By: dink
...I can get you this turbo kit, bolt-on, no angle grinder needed wink
http://www.lanciahf.eu/stage3.html...


Tres bien! thumb What price?
BTW, He'll still need an angle grinder to fit the FMIC! Unless you have a solution that fits perfectly behind the bumper?


The kit goes for about £1600. It this doesn't fit your budget you could get a journal bearing T3/T4 but i only offer the roller bearing model.

Yeah intercooler is a different story. It all depends what you want to do, we usually move the battery to the boot giving the required space for a chargecooler and then run an uprated SMIC. That's ok for 350bhp, air intale temps stall at 60°c max even during heavy racing so for road/occasional track use this is certainly ok.

Re: help with my turbo? [Re: ] #1050636
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Originally Posted By: Jhon
Originally Posted By: Marko_hr
Originally Posted By: Jhon
So what is the best turbo for a linear amount of power without to much fiddling for a 16VT?


By "linear power" You probably mean decent power with quick spool and little lag? Because there isn't "linear power delivery" on turbocharged cars, the torque curve surges to max after spool and stays flat or declining towards the redline... it's never "linear" compared to N/A engine.

There's a 16VT Tuning Workshop with a section dedicated to turbine upgrades...

Exactly, that is what I meant.
Here is an example of a "turbo blast":
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TQeFgkyZy-s&feature=channel

If i'm intrested in a turbo with little lag, which one I need to choose?


Christ, that GT35 is one laggy turbo!


Originally Posted by Jonny - After being taken out at Spa
Your car is Usain Bolt with wellies
Re: help with my turbo? [Re: Begbie] #1050675
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Dunno what rpms it picked up at, what throttle opening, or anything. It's impossible to tell how laggy it is from that video. - Or even what the boost-threshold is wink

Re: help with my turbo? [Re: kj16v] #1050690
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If you look, at one point you see the rev counter and that is around 3000rpm, then there is still more revs before it decides to produce any boost. The GT3076 started boosting around 4000rpm on mine, so would guess the GT35 would be close or more than 5000rpm


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Re: help with my turbo? [Re: Begbie] #1050704
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a GT2871R will get you close 400bhp and not too laggy.
1,5bar at 3300rpm is not too bad.


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