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New coupe mats from FIAT website
#1041608
24/05/2010 11:20
24/05/2010 11:20
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I was looking on fiat website at work yesterday at work as i am buying some accessories for the Panda. Anyways. . . . Whilst in the clearance section i noticed that they sell mats for the coupe. http://www.fiat-accessories.com/Fiat-Coupe-Clearance-AccessoriesThought people might be interested to know.
ex 20v turbo owner, Panda 100hp, NOW FORD Focus RS 😊
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Re: New coupe mats from FIAT website
[Re: Coggie]
#1041614
24/05/2010 11:27
24/05/2010 11:27
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Marco20valveT
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hmm i dont like them, i have the ones with the 20v logo, wish they did some with a 20v turbo logo...
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Re: New coupe mats from FIAT website
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#1041615
24/05/2010 11:28
24/05/2010 11:28
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I see your point. Was quite surprised to see them for sale to be honest. Atleast they are original and will fit i suppose.
ex 20v turbo owner, Panda 100hp, NOW FORD Focus RS 😊
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Re: New coupe mats from FIAT website
[Re: bockers]
#1041640
24/05/2010 12:12
24/05/2010 12:12
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duncan78
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I too saw these mats the other day.
I chucked my original 20v ones out because they were manky. I bought some ones from halfords but found that they weren't sticky so kept moving around.
Very tempted now to get these mats from Fiat, I have to admit they don't look as good as the 20v originals though
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Re: New coupe mats from FIAT website
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#1041643
24/05/2010 12:15
24/05/2010 12:15
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Joined: Jun 2006
Posts: 6,144 Southampton, Hants
Roadking
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Must have been the last set, they seem to have gone!
"RK's way seems the most sensible to me". ali_hire 16 Dec 2010
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Re: New coupe mats from FIAT website
[Re: Roadking]
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24/05/2010 12:24
24/05/2010 12:24
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Gamu
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Gamu
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Perhaps someone has them in their 'basket' but not not actually bought them?
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Re: New coupe mats from FIAT website
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#1041652
24/05/2010 12:36
24/05/2010 12:36
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FreakinFreak
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Still something for the completists though: why?
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Re: New coupe mats from FIAT website
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#1041686
24/05/2010 13:28
24/05/2010 13:28
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The mats I've got might have been part of a group buy, they have a yellow border, but they were beginning to fold in the middle. I bought some plastic netting from Homebase, about 20 mm grid, and glued it to the underneath for a bit of rigidity. Of course the driver's one slipped all over the heel pad under the pedals so then I stuck some Ikea non slip netting on that
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Re: New coupe mats from FIAT website
[Re: Roadking]
#1041867
24/05/2010 17:53
24/05/2010 17:53
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Biggers
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Biggers
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Must have been the last set, they seem to have gone!
But they do have Coupé fountain pens for 20 quid
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Re: New coupe mats from FIAT website
[Re: Gunzi]
#1044533
29/05/2010 11:27
29/05/2010 11:27
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Nello
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Nello
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Nice find - My LE came with these from new.....
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Re: New coupe mats from FIAT website
[Re: Gunzi]
#1044534
29/05/2010 11:28
29/05/2010 11:28
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Gamu
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Gamu
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The mats currently in my 20vt have 'Coupé' embroided down the side in white - I've always assumed that these are not the original mats, can anyone confirm?
Cheers.
Gareth
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Re: New coupe mats from FIAT website
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#1044591
29/05/2010 13:46
29/05/2010 13:46
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Hmmm. Anyone else get stopped after the checkout with a 'Your card issuer indicated that they require you to authenticate this transaction. This confirms that you are the genuine cardholder and wish to proceed with this purchase.' and then nothing?
Perhaps the phone's going to ring.
<edit> Ah, tried again after it announced it had timed out. This time the visa check thing popped up, and order worked.
Last edited by barnacle; 29/05/2010 14:21.
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Re: New coupe mats from FIAT website
[Re: barnacle]
#1044662
29/05/2010 17:09
29/05/2010 17:09
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Gamu
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Gamu
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Edit - I worked out the answer to my question, the ones on the FIAT website are the grey versions of the standard mats
Gareth
Last edited by Gamu; 29/05/2010 17:13.
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Re: New coupe mats from FIAT website
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#1044863
30/05/2010 12:50
30/05/2010 12:50
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I've just got some. I used to have a set like this before in my old Speed Red 20v. The corner with Coupe written on has a sort of (probably fake) leather effect, but they do like really nice. The new ones will replace the grotty '20v' ones I've got in the current car which I always felt were unworthy as it's a '20vt'. Hope the new ones arrive in time for the Stanford Hall gig! Cant believe I'm bangin on about carpet mats on a Bank Holiday Weekend!!
Moon Silver 20vt[6] Previously: Speed Red 20V (growled like a bear)
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Re: New coupe mats from FIAT website
[Re: cyborg7]
#1045425
31/05/2010 17:31
31/05/2010 17:31
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neils20vtcoop
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Just ordered some
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Re: New coupe mats from FIAT website
[Re: Edinburgh]
#1045555
31/05/2010 21:20
31/05/2010 21:20
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Morat
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Morat
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Oooh, excellent spot - thank you! Is the boot orderly worth having while I'm at it?
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Re: New coupe mats from FIAT website
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#1045660
01/06/2010 01:16
01/06/2010 01:16
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Is the boot orderly worth having while I'm at it? I looked at that too... Has anyone got one of these? Although I guess a cargo net would look a lot neater.
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Re: New coupe mats from FIAT website
[Re: X19_pilot]
#1045720
01/06/2010 09:44
01/06/2010 09:44
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yellafella
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Just ordered a set of mats. £25 & free postage = bargin!
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Re: New coupe mats from FIAT website
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#1045727
01/06/2010 10:05
01/06/2010 10:05
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RICHB
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Me too, hopefully we all get a set, and its not a case of there being just 1 set, and Fiat aren't updating the website!!
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Re: New coupe mats from FIAT website
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#1045772
01/06/2010 11:48
01/06/2010 11:48
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Ordered But they must have run out of boot orderlys as it wouldn't let me pay for one [If your mat has slots the buttons should come with it as part of the set]
C2D in my 16vt the turn buttons were mounted on the floor, are you saying that if you get the mats you also fit the buttons?
Last edited by Edinburgh; 01/06/2010 11:50.
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Re: New coupe mats from FIAT website
[Re: came2dance]
#1045955
01/06/2010 15:55
01/06/2010 15:55
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I've just seen this post and have ordered a set of mats too. Interesting as I was told by the local Fiat dealer that they were no longer available !
Biker Dave
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Re: New coupe mats from FIAT website
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#1045976
01/06/2010 16:13
01/06/2010 16:13
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RICHB
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RICHB
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I suspect there is more to come on these matts.....I rekon we'll be contacted in due course, to the effect of them not being available!
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Re: New coupe mats from FIAT website
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#1046070
01/06/2010 18:40
01/06/2010 18:40
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sandytim
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I've had an e-mail to confirm posting but I did order about 5 minutes after the first post I don't think they would process payment without stock. After all it is 2010 and Fiat can't be more that 10 years behind.......can they ?
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Re: New coupe mats from FIAT website
[Re: sandytim]
#1046078
01/06/2010 18:47
01/06/2010 18:47
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RICHB
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RICHB
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After all it is 2010 and Fiat can't be more that 10 years behind.......can they ? Well......it is Fiat!! they are probably on back order !! I'm sure all will be fine....
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Re: New coupe mats from FIAT website
[Re: Possum]
#1046912
03/06/2010 09:04
03/06/2010 09:04
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Nello
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Nello
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I was going to order some to replace the indentical original ones I still have in the car. They just need a clean an they're pretty perfect so might not bother... I do fancy some with the Pininfarina logo on? Anyone reccomend any others?
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Re: New coupe mats from FIAT website
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#1046914
03/06/2010 09:07
03/06/2010 09:07
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RICHB
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RICHB
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Iv found an ebay seller that does various embroidered badges, they look very nice, and they do Fiat/Brembo/Recaro etc etc logos in full colour, so iv emailed asking a few questions, then i'm going try figuring out a way of applying to the mats ( will test on old ones first ), i'll post my results & pics once iv had a play....
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Re: New coupe mats from FIAT website
[Re: X19_pilot]
#1047034
03/06/2010 12:42
03/06/2010 12:42
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duncan78
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Mine arrived yesterday, but I wasnt in so my mate has picked them up today for me. Shame the car is off the road, oh well, at least they will stay clean. I will let you know what they are like when i get home. do they send them via Royal Mail? I'll be buying some too but out all day, so if its Royal Mail delivering it will be easier to pick up at the local depot rather than trekking off 40 odd miles to whatever depot a courier uses!
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Re: New coupe mats from FIAT website
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#1047039
03/06/2010 13:02
03/06/2010 13:02
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do they send them via Royal Mail?
I'll be buying some too but out all day, so if its Royal Mail delivering it will be easier to pick up at the local depot rather than trekking off 40 odd miles to whatever depot a courier uses!
They were sent by parcel force. I guess they have an arrangment with the post office, i think my "local" PF depot is on the other side of town so its a good job really.
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Re: New coupe mats from FIAT website
[Re: X19_pilot]
#1047151
03/06/2010 17:53
03/06/2010 17:53
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Well, they are a bloody good fit! I see what people mean with the missing the model variant name, but they have finished off the interior very nicely. Great value for money, I have paid £40 for aftermarket mats (just for 2 mats in the Exxy) in the past and they have been quite poor by comparison. I am very happy with these, especially for the reduced price. I don't think there is any need for the turn buttons as they seem to be a snug fit, but time will tell (these are included btw). Big thanks to Coggie!
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Re: New coupe mats from FIAT website
[Re: X19_pilot]
#1047167
03/06/2010 18:44
03/06/2010 18:44
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duncan78
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Well, they are a bloody good fit! awesome, just ordered my set. I got some cheap ones from Halfords which continually move around under your feet, I hope these are better
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Re: New coupe mats from FIAT website
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#1047305
03/06/2010 22:39
03/06/2010 22:39
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My orderly just arrived even though I ordered it after the mats! Er it's more a disorderly, a silly sponge rubbery thing for bashing each other over the head with [unless you're a teacher, watch out Enforcer ]that is supposed to stick together at the ends with a sort of velcro. The pictures with it all show TWO being used at once Ah well the mats shouldn't be long now
BumbleBee carer
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Re: New coupe mats from FIAT website
[Re: Kelv27]
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07/06/2010 08:30
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RICHB
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RICHB
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Anyone else received theirs yet? still waiting for mine......
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Re: New coupe mats from FIAT website
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08/06/2010 16:37
08/06/2010 16:37
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RICHB
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RICHB
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Re: New coupe mats from FIAT website
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08/06/2010 16:48
08/06/2010 16:48
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sjpbarchetta
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Nope - they have charged my card already - however I also suspect an email shortly, apologising and then my card being credited back!
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Re: New coupe mats from FIAT website
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#1049746
08/06/2010 17:28
08/06/2010 17:28
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RICHB
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RICHB
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Well they are still listed on the Fiat website....so fingers crossed....
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Re: New coupe mats from FIAT website
[Re: gj88]
#1049862
08/06/2010 21:19
08/06/2010 21:19
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WHERE ARE MY MATS...
I emailed them the other day chasing and seems they were waiting for next batch - so the good news is that there should be plenty. Not that I'm impatient or anything... -------------------------------- info@fiat-accessories.com[image: Fiat Accessories] Dear chris Thank you for your order from Fiat Acces... 1 Jun (7 days ago)
i just wondered if you had an update on despatch please as its been over 3 d... 5 Jun (3 days ago)
Reply |Tim Gawthorpe (NtL) to me show details 7 Jun (1 day ago)
Hallo, We've just had our shipment of these mats in today and will be sending them out as soon as we can: you should receive them later this week.
Last edited by cyborg7; 02/08/2011 08:52.
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Re: New coupe mats from FIAT website
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#1049871
08/06/2010 21:43
08/06/2010 21:43
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Spee
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Spee
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Ordered two sets as I doubt they'll be available again, I've seen these very mats in a Coupe I viewed last year, they are the same dark grey as the carpet so blend in perfect, unlike my black 20v ones which stand out a bit too much against the grey, makes them look a little aftermarket.
Hopefully they'll turn up soon!
Gareth
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Re: New coupe mats from FIAT website
[Re: pinin_prestatyn]
#1050124
09/06/2010 11:34
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Re: New coupe mats from FIAT website
[Re: pinin_prestatyn]
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09/06/2010 17:06
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Spee
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Spee
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Just had confirmation of dispatch and a tracking number so I guess I should see both sets this week.
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Re: New coupe mats from FIAT website
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#1050372
09/06/2010 17:11
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RICHB
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RICHB
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Just can confirmation of dispatch and a tracking number so I guess I should see both sets this week. already? iv not had that yet, getting concerned now, as ordered mine lastweek !! I have chased via email but no response...
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Re: New coupe mats from FIAT website
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09/06/2010 17:18
09/06/2010 17:18
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Spee
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Spee
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I would, ordered mine Monday and got a dispatch email late today, there is a number to call on the email you should have got confirming your order.
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Re: New coupe mats from FIAT website
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09/06/2010 17:27
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RICHB
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RICHB
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Money was debited from my account on the 1st June aswell...the day I ordered....
Last edited by RICHB; 09/06/2010 17:31.
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Re: New coupe mats from FIAT website
[Re: Edinburgh]
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09/06/2010 18:47
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Re: New coupe mats from FIAT website
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09/06/2010 18:47
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RICHB
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are you all rubbing it in!!......
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Re: New coupe mats from FIAT website
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#1050492
09/06/2010 21:08
09/06/2010 21:08
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Spee
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Spee
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Did I say mine had been dispatched? oh, right, I did, sorry! I'm such a forgetful little hector!
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Re: New coupe mats from FIAT website
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#1050622
10/06/2010 09:08
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Mine shipped too - i was wrong - must be a good customer service blip!
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Re: New coupe mats from FIAT website
[Re: pinin_prestatyn]
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10/06/2010 10:58
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Spee
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Spee
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Mine arrived today. Won't be able to check them until Friday though.
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Re: New coupe mats from FIAT website
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10/06/2010 12:45
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yellafella
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yellafella
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Mine arrived, looking good
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Re: New coupe mats from FIAT website
[Re: barnacle]
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10/06/2010 15:06
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Arrived, mit buttons... till I get back from Brasil, getting soggy/going mouldy. You don't travel so well these days Neil
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Re: New coupe mats from FIAT website
[Re: Edinburgh]
#1050961
10/06/2010 19:39
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duncan78
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Arrived today, very nice and all for £25 delivered
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Re: New coupe mats from FIAT website
[Re: cyborg7]
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10/06/2010 20:51
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Mine arrived today I placed my order on bank holiday monday and heard absolutely nothing since the order confirmation email. I sent them an email yesterday asking where they were and I fully expected to get an email back saying that my card had been refunded due to the mats being out of stock but just as I was on my way to work they arrived! I'm very happy with the quality of them as my '20v' branded original had holes in them and looked scruffy. The colour was also a pleasant surprise - nice dark grey, infact much darker than the photo on the Fiat website showed them to be. They also came with the buttons! Speaking of which I now have a spare black button (one of my originals was missing from when I bought the car) so if anyone needs one then PM me and I'll post it out F.O.C.
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Re: New coupe mats from FIAT website
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10/06/2010 21:03
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I got an e-mail this morning saying they had been despatched, then they turned up at about 1130. Fitted them this evening, they look
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Re: New coupe mats from FIAT website
[Re: coupedummy]
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11/06/2010 14:06
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Spee
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Spee
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Your wish is my command!
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Re: New coupe mats from FIAT website
[Re: Kelv27]
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11/06/2010 14:16
11/06/2010 14:16
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Spee, could you take a picture of the mats with the overall LE interior? Thanks C'mon Kelv, that would mean Spee would have to hoover the whole interior and not just the passenger side
Ex 432bhp '00 Sprinty 20vt6 '17 S3 Sportback '69 Amazon 131
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Re: New coupe mats from FIAT website
[Re: Kelv27]
#1051493
11/06/2010 17:34
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Spee
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Spee
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I'll post one up later, now, where's the hoover!
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Re: New coupe mats from FIAT website
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#1051518
11/06/2010 18:37
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Re: New coupe mats from FIAT website
[Re: barnacle]
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11/06/2010 21:59
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Dickie26
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Dickie26
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thanks spee, beat me to it with pics, saves me putting any up and hoovering my drivers mat to get rid of my footprints!
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Re: New coupe mats from FIAT website
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12/06/2010 01:20
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Spee
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Spee
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There you go! Gareth
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Re: New coupe mats from FIAT website
[Re: Theresa]
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15/06/2010 09:02
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Theresa
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Former Presidentessa Club member 58
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After seeing the posts about them being a darker grey, I've just ordered some Sick of my threadbare drivers one folding up under my feet and constantly having to adjust it. Will wait and see if I get them, due to being one of the last to order them Ordered mine the early hours of Saturday morning and they've just arrived
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Re: New coupe mats from FIAT website
[Re: X19_pilot]
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16/06/2010 14:04
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RICHB
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RICHB
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mine arrived friday, really pleased with them, not fitted them yet though.....
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Re: New coupe mats from FIAT website
[Re: Theresa]
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21/06/2010 18:43
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RICHB
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RICHB
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anyone notice that the pic on the website has now changed?? new design they will have the 20v ones on there soon, you watch !! stock level 1 it says, be quick !!
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FIAT selling Coupe Pens..........
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28/07/2010 14:16
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Nello
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Nello
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Just noticed these on the FIAT Accessories site: Coupe Pens Same place those mats were - still pricey for a standard looking pen IMO but if your a collector..........
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Re: New coupe mats from FIAT website
[Re: Edinburgh]
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28/07/2010 19:38
28/07/2010 19:38
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Tommy_Coop23
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Strange, my coop doesn't seem to have the turn buttons under the driver's seat which fit through the slots in the front offside mat to keep it in position I wouldnt worry, it STILL moves around and affects the clutch/throttle pedal, annoying ha!
I'll be back Alor Blue Seat Leon FR 180 atm
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Re: New coupe mats from FIAT website
[Re: Theresa]
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28/07/2010 19:42
28/07/2010 19:42
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Tommy_Coop23
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My life on the forum
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After seeing the posts about them being a darker grey, I've just ordered some Sick of my threadbare drivers one folding up under my feet and constantly having to adjust it. Will wait and see if I get them, due to being one of the last to order them I know exactly what you mean i think the mat was made too big for the drivers side, italians..... still, you wouldnt get that kind of 'flaw' in an audi....(yawns)
I'll be back Alor Blue Seat Leon FR 180 atm
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