cheers stan, jonnybravoturbo came up yesterday and we checked all the connections. Ive cancelled out the crank sensor and cam sensor being confused by the ecu as i disconnected the crank sensor and it then came up on the widget.

Ive asked JBT to fit it in at his place when he can to change the belts and cam phase sensor, i have washed my hands with attempting this.

The connector for the cam sensor is the blue one stan, i presume it was connected correct as the lock pin fitted around it and it then would not pull off, like i said JBT also disconnected and then re connected it so i dont think its the connection.

proccy its not the price of the sensor, its the effort to change it, the cam belt and pully needs removing to get to the sensor. New belt to go on at the same time.

That is bloody unlucky Niff, especially since you'd heard the engine running before fitting it!

Congrats for sticking with it though and not reaching for a gallon of petrol and the Zippo!

ha ha, i was looking for the tow rope to hang myself.

Do you think it is worth me taking the blue connector off and giving it a spray with electrical contact cleaner, also maybe giving it a wiggle whilst someone try's to start the engine to make sure its contacting between the plug and socket.

also is it possible to fit this plug and the securing pin without it actually being connected correct.

I know im clutching at straws and i dont doubt jonnybravoturbo's ability at all but could it possibly just be a bad connection between the plug and socket

Yes, I'd clean the contacts on both sides of the plug/socket just in case it got dirty during the swap. Just needs a tiny speck of debris in there and it could cause a problem. Could also be the wiring from the sensor was damaged when they removed the engine (now I'm clutching at straws, but sometimes even a straw works!)Another thought: remove rocker cover and spray clean the sensor from the engine side, just in case debris is interfering with it, again just clutching at straws......

It's such a stupid design where they've located such a sensitive sensor!

cheers stan, JBT cleaned the sensor last night via the rocker cover, but we did not try to clean the plug or socket thow.

Ill try this either later or tomorrow but it will be the last thing i try, it can go down to JBT if i dont get it running.

That's what happened with knock sensor No.1. on my engine: looked right, felt right, but wasn't quite just there. Pulled it off, thankfully I have long arms and got it from underneath, only lost one pint of blood as I recall, and then plugged it back in using a long lever to make sure it was fully home. That did the trick!

Like you say, still clutching at straws but it's so hard to understand why sensor would fail, after all my engine travelled all the way from Joe's to Cumbria, was then hauled around the garage, manhandled, then lifted back into place, all without any issues

cheers stan, i can also reach the sensor as im very skinny, with long arms, i may have a look at this later and let you know, i cant understand why it has failed, its only been moved around 30 miles or so and was secured very well.

Also its only been out the car for 2 weeks and has been covered, we have actually not had any rain up my way since i picked the engine up.

Maybe it got contaminated with volcanic ash?

Right it is deffiantly the cam sensor, and to be honest ive just about had enough

Ive had time to think and i have come to the decission ive had enough of the coop, so im getting rid.

After all the money spent and effort, especially with this engine change i really cant afford to pay for it to be fixed and to be honest im also not confindent in changing the belts myself and also the cam sensor.

So its a sad day but im afraid the coop has to go.

Thanks to everyone for there help throughtout this engine change.

Sleep on it niff, don't make a rash decision. You're at the end of a bull's hoof right now but it's not going to get worse.

Ride through it mate

i can understand how you're feeling niff but i've been there too many times - bottom line is, when it's running what can you get to replace the joy it gives?

Give it a few days to calm down dude,i know its the worst sensor physically possible to play up but we will get there in the end.
Stick with it.
And don't worry about the money,sort me out with what you can afford and pay the rest when you can.

Thanks guys, i have to say that this forum and its members are brilliant, and johnnybravoturbo has gone above and beyond what any other mechanic would do.

I have kind of calmed down since earlier, i got so wound up because of all the effort with the engine change, and before i began the change the place i got the engine from said i was not allowed to change the cambelts as this would void the warrenty they gave, which turns out it was not worth the paper it was wrote on.

It was suggested i changed the belts and cam sensor before fitting the engine and i would have done this if it would have not void the warrenty.

Ill have i good think and decide what to do,

Thanks all again.

well ive calmed down alot from yesterday and had a good think today.

To be honest if i get rid of the coop the money ill get for her wont really get me a decent car, also apart from this cam sensor problem everything else is spot on mechanically wise, still got 11 months m.o.t.

I really love drivin her and i think i would regret it if i sold or broke her, also it could take some time to do either of these and i really do need the use of a car.

I love these cars so much because they are different, not many around my way and most folk knock around in the chaved up saxo's (each to there own). I love the feeling i get just driving her the short distance to the shop, and also to me the interior is also a special place to be.

So it looks like ill be getting her fixed, hopefully johnybravoturbo can sqeeze me in or maybe get her in if he has any cancelations.

And hopefully once she is all sorted ill get the love back.

I have put so much time, effort and money into her and really want to get her as near as perfect as possible.

Still a long way to go but hopefully ill get there.( money pending lol )

Attaboy

Now you could change your emoticon sig.....

thats how i still feel mate.

I think the main thing that got me thinking of getting rid was the fact that recently i was put out of work and with me having my own house and its just me,i have alot of bills and payments going out for this.

But i have put a lot into the coop and i dont think the thought of getting rid would have even crossed my mind if it wasnt for me being out of work, but hopefully ill be working again pretty soonish.

I would really miss her if i got rid and would probly have to get another when i could but i know my car and i know whats been done to it so with a new coop it would be unknown, so im going stick with her and hopefully there wont be any major problems, atleast until im back working again.

Good to hear the above news niff

lets just hope nothing else major is wrong with the car, at least until im back working because i think it would be the last straw.

Id be reaching for the petrol can and lighter.

Well when you've burnt yours to cinders, you can buy a lovely well looked after Porto from me mate Good compression, healthy oil pressure, new turbo, clutch and manifold. Soon to have new radiator - nowt left to go wrong mate

oh yes, nothing at all can go wrong with these.......

lol proccy I feel your pain.

Eks, does your coop not need brakes or an exhaust? I want myself one of those

brakes were done couple of months ago, exhaust is custom st/st so hope that doesn't need doing

nowt ever goes wrong Steve . oh wait, the old 16vt I had testifies against that...

Lucky!!!!!!!!!!

Someones snapped the bottom cover bolt which fell into the cambelt which jumped the exhaust cam by 7-8 teeth and the inlet by 5-6...


Game over right.....

Put a belt kit on it just out of interest,retimed it and brooooooooom.
First crack of the key.
Quiet as a mouse.

Play the lottery tonight matey.

cheers mate, you are a star, i loved the drive back home and its suprising how much better she sounds, exhaust note wise.

there was nothing wrong with the way my other engine sounded when it was good but this new one seems loads better.

Like i said thanks so much for taking the time to get her in and enjoy your week off mate, see you soon.

So you're driving to Chatsworth now then?!

You need to change that crying face smiley next to your name now too!!

yeah ill be driving as long as all is good coop wise, the smiley is now changed lol.

Excellent, good news

Nice one mate!

Chuffed for you