Is it my imagination or is there an unusual abundance of nice examples in the Marketplace at the moment??

There are several 20VT 6s, Pluses & LEs in the for sale section on here, and on Pistonheads & even autotrader! I'm feeling more tempted than ever to splurge (not that I have the money) on a lovely LE like this!

mikey, just do it - you'll get £2k for yours, and boys your age can get no end of credit

that is one beautiful car

Looks in very good condition,

But don't like the coupe in black to be honest, it hides the curves and lines of the coupe.

Only thing I'm interested in though is a Moonie Plus nowt else.

I'd check the "never messaed around with" statement with Roger

Misleading advert. The new cambelt and clutch from Rog wiill cost an extra £1000.

Headline price ..." new cambelt and clutch "... £3395.

Beware.

If I could afford it....I would have another coop ( 20vt of course ) as my runaround
Paul

LE NO 557??

i thought they only made about 200 in the uk?

Nope, 1400 - 1500 in total, the numbers are all over the place.

The demon on my right shoulder... Thing is though, with so many great examples available I think it might be tricky to sell mine...



the angel on my left!

I had spotted the fact that the cambelt & clutch are an extra £1000 IF I were to go for it I'd offer sub-£3K & get the work done by Contrycruising!

Lovely Mikey - treat yourself to the top-of-the range Coupe, these were 27 bags of sand new - a lot of car for the £££££'s, maybe get it checked over by a specialist first though.

Looks a really nice car.
If I could get the missus insured on it I would have been tempted.
I would be changing the clutch and cambelt myself though and saving some money.

i notice the trader says he does px's mikey - what's the worst that can happen if you ask him the value of yours against that? you could have a real "keeper" there mate, and the gloss, proper black is gorgeous

Surely this is a trading standards issue and you could legally buy the car for all incl for £3395 ?
The seller cannot say he made a mistake with the ad price - so annoying - it's a bit like those 'Buy a brand new car for £99 a month' ads - until you read the small print

They did Mario, I have the rare number 221 of 200 sold in the UK

Gorgeous. Go for it.

Or this:

http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/1559952.htm

Or maybe this:

http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/1538938.htm

Or this:

http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/1536615.htm

I'll stop now

I like the first one best.

I is the exactly the same as the one my dad used to own.

http://www.fiatcoupeclub.org/forum/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=983625#Post983625

le for £3k????? how can you not????

If I were buying at the moment it would be this one all the way - and - it's been looked after in the right way. I am so tempted myself!

This is the right purchase

Why does the drivers seat get an air bag but not the passenger?

Look

http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/1559952.htm

Dave

Ps i would have the black LE all day long...

The interior pictures are of two different Coupes in my opinion, the air bag chairs have bigger bolsters and the two pictures just don't match to me.

I would love this car ...if only I didn't have a garage full of Porsche 944!

I have always wanted a 944, its defiantly a car on the list of cars to have

I can definately recommend it...but like Coupe's..there are 944's and there are 944's...grab a good one and they are fantastic...buy a bad one and you will live to regret it!!

My beastie is now 26 years old with a total lack of power anything (bar windows and roof)...absolute purity..a real Porsche - don't let anyone tell you otherwise..It's as clean underneath as on top...however, the lh rear wheel bearing is getting noisy....I was going to complain to Porsche...I mean only 26 years life before it gives up..pretty shoddy I'd say

http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c232/jonjeffryes/Porsche/041107a.jpg

She's only covered 66k miles from new and has had the best of treatment from new....it's a real GT rather than a sportscar...only 163bhp but stump pulling torque and low weight makes up for any lack of power. The real win is the lack of weight and the steering/handling....nothing has come close...far better than the later Turbo I owned and imho a better car/drive than my 911 (3.0 SC Carrera).

I've deliberately used her - 17,000 miles added over the last 3 years -lots of long trips where she is in her element....but also good today for a run to the dump with the old patio set on board...and back via the garden centre with (Mothers Day Special) a brand new patio set on board...not many coupe's are so usable!

Jon

That is a lovely looking car, strong colour, so many are in terrible colours, especially interior wise! I love these cars, I've driven a couple and it was the only other car I was considering when I bought my coop (s). The coop only won because of the rear seating and the fact that when I was looking, I failed to find a good enough 944 (I was looking for a good clean 3.0).

Lovely car, you must be proud, car for life I'd imagine? Do feel free to post more pics!!!!!

Gareth

what kind of mpg do you get from her?
what can you/me in the future expect for service costs, disks, pads ect?

How about this one Sam?

lol, thanks JKD, got to be red with the black wheels and polished edge.....dont tempt me any more than I am already please

i actually see a red one on the way to work everyday...

Hi Sam,

oh boy that's a hell of a question...but pretty standard..it all depends on the car you buy..DO NOT be tempted by the £1000 smokers on EBAY unless you really know 944's and what you're letting yourself in for! Based on my own experience (I've actually recorded everything undertaken on my car my ownership (If you want to see what attention was required - I'll send you the spreddy)

MPG pretty good...32 usual average - 25 tottering in traffic around the M25 car park - 35-37 on a long motorway run. but that's for the 8v 2.5l Lux I currently have.

The Turbo - anything from 18 - 28 mpg dependent on use/throttle...I also had an S 16v but that was not so good - 190bhp but very peaky power delivery and poor fuel consumption compared to the 8valve.

I bought mine 3yrs ago for £2.5k - had been a garage queen covering less than 10k miles since 1991...generally very clean and polished ..but recommisioning included new tyres/steering column shaft/Tie rods/track rod ends/bushes/brakes/shocks/wheel bearings/SS exhaust/battery/Door & hatch seals/ cambelt/tensioners/water pump/clutch slave cylinder etc. so I've spent quite a few £000's to get her to this condition.

Most of the above was because the car wasn't used often....she is however absolutely rust free and had benefitted from a respray (original factory colour - Saphire...sort of metallic blue grey changing to a purple hint in the sun - really unusual.

You can break the 944 into three groups - depends what you want.

pre 86 original interior (phase 1 we could call them) These are 2.5ltr 163bhp 8v cars which are the most 'classic' feeling but really usable - actually I much prefer them to the later cars.

Post 86 (Oval Dash) 8v cars (Phase 2)- 2.5ltr, 2.7ltr & turbo 8v cars. Major redesign of the interior - lot more 'comfort bits - electric seats etc. more as the cars get 'newer' Turbos have the later nose treatment (smoother design)....alloy wishbones and improved brakes.

Post 86 16v cars (oval dash - Phase 3) these are the non turbo 2.5l 16v S and the last of the line 3.0ltr S2.....the S is rare and has the std 944 nose treatment - was not my favourite model...the 3.0ltr is the final (pre 968) development of the 944 with the Turbo style nose and in good condition is a superb vehicle....trouble is it is complex.

All Porsches will be expensive if they go wrong...however the earlier 8v's are much easier to live with and less costly to run...they are very well engineered and providing they have been maintained will usually run for 200 - 250000 miles.

Most service item costs are less than my Fiat! and an awful lot cheaper than my Alfa twinspark. For instance, the cam belt can be replaced by a competent home mechanic. It's basic nuts and bolts engineering.

Pads - again depends on your style - if you're racing -easy to blow £400 on a pad/disc combo...in reality - std front discs £40, pads £30, sevice kit £60, tyres (I run mine on Khumhos because they grip and feel like the original 1984 Pirelli's)£60 - £70 each.

Biggest issue is interior - mainly cloth, cloth/leather or leather....the drivers bolster nearly always suffers. Drivers seat covers start to fall apart at about 120k plus miles (that's all classic Porsches from my experience) - dashboards start to split due to UV light - both early and now later dashes suffer.

rust - not usually an issue on well cared for cars -check all over especially if you think there may have been repairs - the sills are the weakest point.

driving - you've got to put yourself in 1984 mode...this is front engined and rear wheel drive....like a posh capri!! but so well balanced..great fun.

In good condition, even the earliest of 944's will more than keep ahead of modern traffic....and the answer to many of the local boys with the dustbin exhaust Saxos when challanged to a race....offer them a 2 hr headstart from England to stuttgart...you'll still get there first and be fresh and relaxed - ready for the return journey!!

Hope this helps

Jon

Ohhhh...My want in the 80's was a guards red 944...trouble is the same with all auto reds...it fades pretty badly (not quite as bad as an Alfa 155 though!)

Jon