Well done Eks, glad you have decided to buy the decent version of the coop

If it wasn't for the 16v Coupe, there may not have been the 16vt, 20v and 20vt.

I'm grateful to all those who bought the 16v Coupe all those years ago, which probably influenced Fiat to make the versions that followed.

N.Yorks police are on standby

they're common for a reason - they're worth keeping...

they're common for a reason - they're worth keeping nothing...

So far - I actually enjoy the harsh "rip your balls off" acceleration of the 16VT over the "You know - I COULD rip your balls off, but I won't 'cos I'm refined see!" 20VT!

now you are being silly !

Now, needs a good wash after the ridiculous amounts of grit dumped on the Motorways yesterday!

i thought so - which makes the "rip your balls off" comment inaccurate, as i expect eks to discover soon....

No sorry I've owned both and the 16vt certainly has that "rip your balls off" kick in the face harsh acceleration that the 20vt lacks.

My opinion of course!

Sorry to re-open the thread. Lovely 20vt matey, enjoy it!

I won't give up just yet

Lol! And now I give up, I have to have points for trying though surely lol!

Well Proccy just to point out. No idea if it is accurate...

It maybe that the 16vt has a fast acceleration at certain points than the 20vt.

The 16 may do nothing for a second or so then the power all arrives. Whereas the 20vt maybe more linear. Just an idea

my 20vt does nothing for the first 3 seconds.....then hits 60, 3 seconds later....
Talk about turbo lag......lmao

my 20vt does nothing for the first 3 seconds.....then hits 60, 3 seconds later....
Talk about turbo lag......lmao

After reading this thread and the comparison between the 20vt and 16vt, I have a new found respect for the 16vt.

Previously I just used to think that it was 'not as fast as the 20vt.'

After reading this thread and the comparison between the 20vt and 16vt, I have a new found respect for the 16vt.

Previously I just used to think that it was 'not as fast as the 20vt.'

And sarcasm is the simplest form of wit Mr JKD

I often wonder why Fiat bothered making a 5 cylinder 20VT? If the 16VT was so good, why bother adding a more refined engine in the first place?

Here we go here we go here we go.........

And sarcasm is the simplest form of wit Mr JKD

I personally have no time for the owners of less well endowed coupes.....lmao

DidCoop I don't understand

Afer a skyline......nothing compares mate....even my beast.
It's fun so far.....

this did start out as a bit of fun......people are starting to get serious here....what's wrong with you all ?
We all own basically have the same car and all belong to the same forum.

Skyline - PRO = goes like [censored] off a shovel
CON = looks like [censored] off a shovel

It's not

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Whats a 20VT got? 30 more BHP (which you can get from a 16VT just by turning the boost up a little!)

Keep your 30BHP - you've still got a van engine in your car!

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Thanks for the comments in amongst the arguing guys - stop hijacking my thread - however, to add to the argument,

The 16VT does seem more brutal - The 20vt (at least the one I have!) has little to no lag when the gearing is correct - just straight up power. The 16vt does nothing for 5 seconds and everything in the last 2 it seems! It feels quicker (yes I know it's not - that's obvious from the fact that the 20VT is faster!), it feels more brutal - and comes with a LOT more engine noise than the 20.

I do still prefer the acceleration on the 16, the brutal raw power. The 20 is obviously superior in the power department, but it IS more subtle - let's not forget I only drove the two variants last thursday, within hours of each other, and the 16 was very very sick - it still felt more brutal and raw!

However I'm loving the lack of lag with the 20VT, and may one day change my opinion, after all, I lived with the 16VT for nearly a year, I havn't had the 20VT for a week yet!

So - guys - please, cease the arguing, no one can win the argument over who's opinion is best suited.
My opinion is my own opinion, it just happens I share it with DidCoop and not the 20VT fans! Until the 20VT changes my opinion, it still stands that I, at the moment, prefer the power delivery of the 16VT.

Now - can we have more gushing remarks at what a lovely Coupe I have - and what a fantastic job Joe has done on getting it to this state! Well done Joe

16VT = better weight distribution (20VT is a heavier engine)
Better weighted steering
Better turning circle
Better brakes with more feel
All round better handling

Whats a 20VT got? 30 more BHP (which you can get from a 16VT just by turning the boost up a little!)

Keep your 30BHP - you've still got a van engine in your car!

hydraulic valve lifters are for gays.

hydraulic valve lifters are for gays.

Can't comment on that one but everyone knows Portofino owners are in touch with their feminine (or not as the case may be) side.

20 is more than 16.

In this life, for some reason, more is better.

The difference between 20 & 16 is 4 (I have always been good at maths)

The 20VT has 5 and the 16VT has 4

The difference between 5 & 4 is 1 (Used a calculator for this one)

Therefore the 20VT is 5 times better than the 16VT

Come on guy's, it's all in the math!

FTW

I often wonder why Fiat bothered making a 5 cylinder 20VT? If the 16VT was so good

Perhaps it was to prove that the Coupe could work just as well with an old school 1970s designed motor with (distributor, plug leads & bucket tappets) as it could with a much more modern unit (Coil packs, Hydraulic tappets & variable cam timming).

I would love to see a 16v owner go properly old school though and rip off the injection system. Imagine the sound of a 16v breathing through a couple of twin webers