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Stealth Subwoofer Install
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08/02/2010 15:13
08/02/2010 15:13
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juanchos20v
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Hi Everyone,
I'm looking to upgrade the sound of my coop with a subwoofer install. I want to install it the most stealthy as possible, looking for sound quality rather than volume, and without compromising the boot space.
I searched a bit in the forum and I liked the install in one of the boot side pockets, in the opossite side of the fuel tank. Does anyone knows how big is the space here? I need to know the capacity of the box that could be built to choose the right subwoofer and amplifier.
Another option could be to install two smaller subs, one in each side pocket; using two tiny subs like JL Audio 6w3v3 (6.5", 150 RMS each). Anyone tried something similar to this?
Thanks! J.
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Re: Stealth Subwoofer Install
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#980769
08/02/2010 15:45
08/02/2010 15:45
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TheAudioGuy
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I wouldn't bother with 6.5 subs, 10" is the starting point to be honest, you can buy Rockford fosgate flat subs, prime or power series, both in 10" or 12" and are very good for the money, much better then any flat pioneer but JL also do a flat sub but I haven't tested one out yet.
Shame your not in the uk, I could of done a install for you
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Re: Stealth Subwoofer Install
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#980784
08/02/2010 16:11
08/02/2010 16:11
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I would look at installing a custom enclosure be hind the rear three quarter panels and fitting 8" or possibly 10"s here. Unported because I dislike the boom/ undamped sound. If you have the skills a sealed unit made from fibreglass can be made. One benefit of fitting them in the cabin space is you will here a wider range of frequency not just duff duff duff rattle duffduff.
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Re: Stealth Subwoofer Install
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08/02/2010 16:46
08/02/2010 16:46
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TheAudioGuy
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I don't like ported either but on some applications you need to port, it depends, in cabin subs can be too over powering, it all depends on what your looking for, hi-fi or ear bleeding bass head, iv always found a sub in the boot is the way to go, if you have more then one it will be either your a bass head or your car hase a solid back pannel and you need to vent the bass into the cabin, if you still want subs in the cabin then yes 6.5 are going to be the strait fit option, personaly if your going down this route there are some freak sizes out there in 8" speakers you could try first, some have a 250-300 rms, I have fitted monster jbl 12" co-axle speakers into a 2002 lwb transit before and they where werid to look at! But powered by a PG amp and they sounded very good!
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Re: Stealth Subwoofer Install
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#980816
08/02/2010 16:59
08/02/2010 16:59
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juanchos20v
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Thank you all for your answers. It's a shame audioguy that I'm not in the UK for you to make me an install.
I don't want to go for subs installed in the cabin as I read a lot that is difficult to get rid of rattles.
So, subs in the boot is the way to go. And Im discaring the two 6.5" subs option.
And how about my first option of a custom box in the side pocket opossite to the fuel tank? How is the sound experiencie of the guys who made an install here? I'm looking for hi-fi instead of ear bleeding bass.
Thanks! J.
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Re: Stealth Subwoofer Install
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#980880
08/02/2010 18:49
08/02/2010 18:49
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TheAudioGuy
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There is a company that make these to order for loads of cars, but I can't remember there name, last one I fitted was on a e46 BMW convertable
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Re: Stealth Subwoofer Install
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08/02/2010 19:08
08/02/2010 19:08
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Re: Stealth Subwoofer Install
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08/02/2010 19:52
08/02/2010 19:52
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Somebody once did a fantastic install with a custom-made fibreglass housing in the LH side panel in the boot. Covered it in carpet material and it looked very "original" indeed. I seem to recall he worked out all the volumes too, to get a decent sound. Unfortunately it was a very long time ago, might even have been on Form Mk.1, so a search might not find it. Anyone else (the oldies!) remember this?
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Re: Stealth Subwoofer Install
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08/02/2010 20:02
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Re: Stealth Subwoofer Install
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#981002
08/02/2010 21:44
08/02/2010 21:44
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Thanks! Thats the post that I first saw and the one that triggered my interest in this kind of "stealth" enclosure. Unfortunately nobody could tell in that moment the capacity of that space so to decide which sub to fit (and before diciding to go for it, I would like to know that to determine if its worth giving this a try). So, if anyone still has that kind of install it would be nice to receive some feedback. Thanks! J.
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Re: Stealth Subwoofer Install
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#981053
08/02/2010 22:35
08/02/2010 22:35
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TheAudioGuy
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very nice ![laugh laugh](/forum/images/graemlins/default/laugh.gif) can we some how add this link to the forum http://homepage.ntlworld.com/fastedd/ice.htmso it doesnt get lost forever, this has given me a few clues and i may look into making a few for sale
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Re: Stealth Subwoofer Install
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#981059
08/02/2010 22:44
08/02/2010 22:44
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TheAudioGuy
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mabe that green shed on my drive will have some use after all ![laugh laugh](/forum/images/graemlins/default/laugh.gif)
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Re: Stealth Subwoofer Install
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#982280
10/02/2010 22:22
10/02/2010 22:22
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MABR
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Any ballpark prices if you do decide to make these?
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Re: Stealth Subwoofer Install
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#982298
10/02/2010 23:08
10/02/2010 23:08
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I'd be interested to know about that as well.
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Re: Stealth Subwoofer Install
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#982299
10/02/2010 23:11
10/02/2010 23:11
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Why don't you just measure the available space? A simple calculation of height x width x depth will give you the volume there and then simply match that volume with the sub specification. Have you considered a bandpass design? the space lends itself well to the idea. If you do an Internet search there is loads of information. www.diysubwoofers.org
Last edited by szkom; 10/02/2010 23:14. Reason: Even found some useful info :)
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Re: Stealth Subwoofer Install
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#982375
11/02/2010 01:38
11/02/2010 01:38
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TheAudioGuy
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It all depends how much the materials cost and doing a prototype that I can take to bits after I know it fits nice n tight, then use the peices as templates and make up as many as I need, it wouldn't be to expensive, but it's time and where to do it leave it with me ![laugh laugh](/forum/images/graemlins/default/laugh.gif)
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Re: Stealth Subwoofer Install
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#982406
11/02/2010 09:41
11/02/2010 09:41
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I feel a group buy coming on............ ![smile smile](/forum/images/graemlins/default/smile.gif)
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Re: Stealth Subwoofer Install
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#982433
11/02/2010 10:41
11/02/2010 10:41
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MABR
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I feel a group buy coming on............ Me too. ![smile smile](/forum/images/graemlins/default/smile.gif) I think you'll have a LOT of interest in this if the price is right. ![cool cool](/forum/images/graemlins/default/cool.gif)
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Re: Stealth Subwoofer Install
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#982469
11/02/2010 12:03
11/02/2010 12:03
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Insy
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Oooh sounds like a good idea. I could get rid of the active sub I have taking up the boot!
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Re: Stealth Subwoofer Install
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#982536
11/02/2010 13:57
11/02/2010 13:57
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MrCooper
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I could not commit to this without knowing the cost, but I sometimes carry a lot of stuff in the boot. If the housing had the facility of being able to slot a bit of plastic over the speaker to protect it I think that would be good. Prob would not require much - just holders on three sides and a rotating latch (a bit like you see on a shed door) on one side.
I imagine other people would see that as useful as well though, even if I don't go through with this.
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Re: Stealth Subwoofer Install
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#982744
11/02/2010 23:38
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TheAudioGuy
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Re: Stealth Subwoofer Install
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#982750
11/02/2010 23:48
11/02/2010 23:48
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TheAudioGuy
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iv got most of it planed out in my head, i just need to get the stuff together like ash gray acustic carpet, fiberglass resin, wood glue, a few sheets of mdf, nail gun, mastic,carpet glue spray, charity shop t-shirts, jumbo masking tape low tac, pillow stuffing, etc... also good weather
Last edited by TheAudioGuy; 11/02/2010 23:56.
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Re: Stealth Subwoofer Install
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#982944
12/02/2010 11:26
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MrCooper
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Good idea on the grill covers.
If you could do with an extra pair of hands when putting the thing together I'd be happy to give up a morning on a Sat or Sunday to assist.
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Re: Stealth Subwoofer Install
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12/02/2010 13:37
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iv got most of it planed out in my head, i just need to get the stuff together like ash gray acustic carpet, fiberglass resin, wood glue, a few sheets of mdf, nail gun, mastic,carpet glue spray, charity shop t-shirts, jumbo masking tape low tac, pillow ![laugh laugh](/forum/images/graemlins/default/laugh.gif) stuffing, etc... also good weather Stop making excuses and start making boxes! ![laugh laugh](/forum/images/graemlins/default/laugh.gif)
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Re: Stealth Subwoofer Install
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#983039
12/02/2010 14:11
12/02/2010 14:11
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TheAudioGuy
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alright i'l start buying the stuff today and i'l start it tomorrow ![laugh laugh](/forum/images/graemlins/default/laugh.gif) iv got a new roll of ash back carpet in the van so i'l let you guys know when its finished
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Re: Stealth Subwoofer Install
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#983357
12/02/2010 22:00
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Insy
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I look forward to seeing the results ![laugh laugh](/forum/images/graemlins/default/laugh.gif)
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Re: Stealth Subwoofer Install
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#983376
12/02/2010 22:22
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MrCooper
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charity shop t-shirts, pillow stuffing, etc... ????
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Re: Stealth Subwoofer Install
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#983514
13/02/2010 08:57
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Re: Stealth Subwoofer Install
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#983603
13/02/2010 13:09
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TheAudioGuy
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Going to collect carpet and then it's game on, I'm going to make 5 of these with false floors so you can hide your amps and cables, 2 with 10" subwoofer hole and 2 with 12" subwoofer hole and the one left over will be either one depending who wants it.
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Re: Stealth Subwoofer Install
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#983906
14/02/2010 04:52
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Im deffo interested mate with 10" sub.Looking forward to first pics.
Last edited by coupedummy; 14/02/2010 04:53.
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