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Re: Any I.C.E or In Car Security questions
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27/10/2009 19:19
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Hi audio guy, I've done some googling thingy for finding a nice sq system with a low budget.. Here is what I have now, Alpine 9881 and Infinity Kappa 5.1 perfect. May i have your opinion pls? And one question, will there be anything else like wires or connectors that i should have to install those 2 parts in my fiat coupe (16V, 1994)? Thanks,
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Re: Any I.C.E or In Car Security questions
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27/10/2009 21:33
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hi there, the Alpine 9881 has a great text display and fast search using ipod/mp3/wma. its got two pre-outs and the option to change illumination to red,blue ambar ect
as its a alpine the sound quality will be very good all i will say is that the iphone and itouch may not work with this unit
but yes its a good start to a quality system
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Re: Any I.C.E or In Car Security questions
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27/10/2009 22:01
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also its 6.1 perfect as the 5.1 are 13cm
i would have a listen to a few others before spending £200, theres an awful lot avalible for that money
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Re: Any I.C.E or In Car Security questions
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06/11/2009 15:23
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hi mate can you tell me more about the crossover in the coupe, i know i have to get component speakers for the front, i want to get alpines to match my head unit, ida x305, some of them come with sperate cross overs and some dont, im a bit confussed!!! please help!!!
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08/11/2009 09:26
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The type r come with crossovers and type G, type S, everything else will have a capacitor solders to the tweeter, this is a cheaper meathod to get the same ish results as you would with a crossover box
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Re: Any I.C.E or In Car Security questions
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11/11/2009 22:07
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Hi, Class D amplifiers - are they worth the money over standard ones in terms of sound quality etc .. cheers
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Re: Any I.C.E or In Car Security questions
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13/11/2009 17:34
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TheAudioGuy
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hi mate, yes there the future in amps, they consume less power and size is reduced and clarity is improved. but it does all still come down to good quality brands
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Re: Any I.C.E or In Car Security questions
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15/11/2009 14:08
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Hi AudioGuy! i just got my component speakers for the front, do i have to re wire from the head unit or can i use the original wiring, im finding it hard to access the wiring from the door! i dont really want to take the door card of to run new wires through! any easy ideas!? cheers
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Re: Any I.C.E or In Car Security questions
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16/11/2009 16:14
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Hi AudioGuy! i just got my component speakers for the front, do i have to re wire from the head unit or can i use the original wiring, im finding it hard to access the wiring from the door! i dont really want to take the door card of to run new wires through! any easy ideas!? cheers hi mate, it should be fine, just make sure the speaker wire is not black and you wire the speakers inphase and not out of phase, make sure you know whats + and - on the speaker wire as out of phase is flat and inphase is more tone in detail.
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Re: Any I.C.E or In Car Security questions
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10/12/2009 02:00
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Hiya audioguy need to ask a few questions please. I have received my parrot ck3100 today.I am going to install this coupled with my pioneer deh-4000ub. Looking at the wiring diagram its a little undescriptive of the install.The coupe has standard iso so no trouble there. its the muting cables thats proving tricky,there are three rfom the parrot loom?I have found the one for my pioneer.But on the pioneer loom its not connected to the iso block at all and all three of the parrot mute cables are at different points. Do i need to slice this one cable in to one of the parrot ones? One of the parrot mute cables once connected to pioneer loom through iso actually is connected to a yellow cable which splits into two, (yellow )battery + and (red) acc. I assume do not connect to this at all. http://www.parrot.com/uk/support/onlineh...=12&etape=2any help appreciated.
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Re: Any I.C.E or In Car Security questions
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10/12/2009 08:46
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AFAIK the yellow power cable should be ignition switched, the read permanent live, so it looks like your ISO connectors have not been wired up correctly? (the Coupe did not come with ISO connectors from the factory, they have been put in by someone afterwards)
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Re: Any I.C.E or In Car Security questions
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10/12/2009 18:40
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You don't need to mess with mute-ing the pioneer unless you want the headunit to display MUTE. If so it will be connected to the yellow speckled black cable labled MUTE on the pioneer harness or back of unit, the triger should be a negitive -
On the parrot it might be a yellow wire.
As the parrot controls the iso it will mute on it's own.
Make sure youv wired up the positive ignition and constant positive memory
you can do this by swaping over by the parrots fuse holders
you can check this by using a test light
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Re: Any I.C.E or In Car Security questions
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10/12/2009 18:42
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Also I could be brown for the mute cable on the pioneer
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Re: Any I.C.E or In Car Security questions
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10/12/2009 18:57
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Some info if anyone gets one
the mute cable on the pioneer is black/yellow. Found the single mute cable from the parrot control box i think,single yellow cable. This cable from the black control box is the only cable not labelled.
This then can connecet via bullet connectors to three cable which are fixed in different positions on the replacement male iso block from the parrot unit. Mute 1 Mute 2 Mute 3
Seeing as my pioneer doesnt use have a fixed mute cable through the iso female connector and has a single wire(black/yellow), i guess i just put a bullet connector on the pioneer mute cable and connect it to the yellow mute control cable from the control unit?
Dont bother with the three prefixed mute cables on the iso block?
Hope this makes sense,i will make this work.
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Re: Any I.C.E or In Car Security questions
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10/12/2009 19:16
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If it never turns off it will run the batt out
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Re: Any I.C.E or In Car Security questions
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11/12/2009 10:48
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@ Coupedummy: You will need to supply the parrot with a switched ignition feed (cigarette lighter is porbably the closest) otherwise it will not only never go off, but your phone won't automatically disconnect from the parrot system!!! That can be annoying when your sitting in your house/office
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Re: Any I.C.E or In Car Security questions
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02/01/2010 18:05
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Hi TAG (or anyone else actually) I have never been interested in ICE before now, in fact the only thing I ever listen to is radio5 live on MW! However my birthday is coming up soon and people are asking what I would like as a present, so I decided I could do with something in the car to replace the gramophone Lol! I would like something that has DAB radio, an input socket for the wife’s iphone and something that will connect to my cd changer in the boot or will play a single cd in the head unit. I also want something that will connect to my telephone to give me a full handsfree connection. I think I saw one that muted the radio sound and then rang on the car’s speakers (or maybe I’ve been watching too much star trek!) Nothing that has lots of flashing lights or fancy displays just something functional. I have no idea what this would cost, but I only have a small budget for this. Many thanks for any advice Mr T.
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Re: Any I.C.E or In Car Security questions
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02/01/2010 22:05
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^^^ Well out of the above, I can probably answer one question and make a suggestion for another;
With regards to your boot mounted changer, if it's the old, original Clarion unit then forget it and sell it on to someone who can use it (especially if you're on a tight budget) as the connecting cable is no longer used by Clarion. The good news is that most head units are cd/tuners so you'll still have the cd option.
With regards to phone/bluetooth connection, some head units have a bluetooth interface available as an optional extra or possibly a better option is a "standalone" handsfree unit such as a Parrot CK3100 (@£100 fitted).
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Re: Any I.C.E or In Car Security questions
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03/01/2010 13:59
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hi mate iv had the DAB question before and the only brand that is still doing them is JVC, the problem is DAB is a media that is under threat from being unsupported as new digital broadcesting technology is coming like satilite radio and internet radio. if your goole DAB news, your find something on this.
now you can find stuff from around 2006-2008 that supported DAB, IPOD, CD CHANGER, mp3 etc.... PIONEER, KENWOOD, JVC, SONY, ALPINE
but it will be second hand.
i will have a look, but im sure its still only JVC
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03/01/2010 14:12
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Re: Any I.C.E or In Car Security questions
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05/01/2010 01:12
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You will get the lead free with the alpine, and there still one of the best, Sony is not bad, but there's better out there for the money
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05/01/2010 10:00
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In that case the alpine it is. Again thanks for your help. I will report back when it is fitted and give feedback. (This will not be until after I buy my new coupe - so it could be a couple of months yet)
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Re: Any I.C.E or In Car Security questions
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05/01/2010 20:01
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If there decent 6x9's use a two channel amp from 100 watts or a little bit more per channel, but I would say if youv got components in the front maybe buying a 4 channel amp would be better
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