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16v N/A chip #882206
12/08/2009 21:22
12/08/2009 21:22

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as above, i have gambled on a fleabay chip, just wondering,

on my 20v the chip pulled out of the ecu unit and i just swapped old with new.

is this the same on the 16v? as i am writing this i realise i could just go outside and have a look but im lazy and its dark!

thanks guys

matt

Re: 16v N/A chip [Re: ] #882217
12/08/2009 21:32
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Originally Posted By: shinyshoes
as above, i have gambled on a fleabay chip, just wondering if my engine will survive.


Corrected for you wink

I wouldn't risk it - modifying the fuelling and ignition needs some kind of expertise to be safe

If its an ECU chip, my guess is it will be a rip-off of someone else's, although I can't say I've ever come across a 16v N/A chip before

If its a resistor mod, walk away now!


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Re: 16v N/A chip [Re: Nigel] #882221
12/08/2009 21:35
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haha thanks nigel, no its advertised as a 'plug and play' job, im just curious if its the same set up in the ecu department as on my 20v.

presumably its under the glove box, and i will have to prize the unit apart etc?

i really should get up off my censored and go and look!

Re: 16v N/A chip [Re: ] #883005
14/08/2009 11:39
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Get off your backside, Shiny!

The ECU is inthe passenger side footwell, and the chip is a simple remove-from-socket DIP chip - but you may find it more difficult to remove. Pull it carefully straight out from the board to avoid bending/breaking any legs. You might find two small screwdrivers helpful to lever it out from each end.

Note the position of the notch in one end of the chip (or possibly a small circle/dimple in one corner) and make sure the replacement goes in the same way.

You might find that the legs splay a little wide on the new chip; you can *carefully* bend them by holding the chip against a hard surface and rolling them slightly.

I too am curious about the chip; I've never seen one either.

I've just had fun trying to find a picture: not the best, but...

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The chip you need is bottom right in that picture. It's labelled 888.dpda, but yours won't be.


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Re: 16v N/A chip [Re: barnacle] #883012
14/08/2009 11:44
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Is this the one you've found? http://cgi.ebay.it/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=370234093262

I find myself very worried that the seller seems to indicate that the same chip can be used for all five engines... trust me on this one - it can't.


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Re: 16v N/A chip [Re: barnacle] #883110
14/08/2009 14:40
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I would go to a local dyno and do a power run on the OE chip, then do another power run on the "performance" chip. Compare graphs/fuelling etc. This will only show WOT differences but it’s a good start. You can check different load sites and compare if you really wanna see how the chip performs in other areas. This is what I would advise with ANY hot swap chip from ANY seller. Never assume that it will be beneficial, always test the product for yourself.

Re: 16v N/A chip [Re: ] #883146
14/08/2009 16:00
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the chip is at :-

clicky

its been dispatched so will wait and see.

yeah thanks neil, seems pretty similar to the 20v arrangement just a bigger chip?!

will post an update when it arrives.

Re: 16v N/A chip [Re: ] #883257
14/08/2009 19:14
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If they deliver the chip as illustrated, it won't fit; that's an SOP28 package, you need DIP28/06...


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Re: 16v N/A chip [Re: barnacle] #883270
14/08/2009 19:29
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I noticed that too but then the listing reads:
"Please note that picture in this listing is for representation only and actual chip(s) may differ a bit in size, shape and/or markings. You will receive it nicely and professionally packed in anti-static box. Also clear fitting instructions will be added for easy installation."

Re: 16v N/A chip [Re: ] #883308
14/08/2009 20:40
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ok, let's see how it goes!


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Re: 16v N/A chip [Re: barnacle] #888511
25/08/2009 11:05
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ooohh! chip has arrived this morning, with, oddly a token bag of german sweets!!!

will hopefully try and get it on tonight or tomorow and post my thoughts on this.

taken two bloody weeks to get here though rolleyes

Re: 16v N/A chip [Re: ] #888517
25/08/2009 11:17
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do you think it was to sweeten the deal?

sorry couldnt resist


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Re: 16v N/A chip [Re: ] #888964
26/08/2009 09:37
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Gummi bears!

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Re: 16v N/A chip [Re: barnacle] #889312
26/08/2009 17:54
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hmmmm well, installed chip today (3 times)

car started but ran like a bag of old bolts, would not rev higher than 1500 rpm, and died shortly after!!

tried leaving battery disconnected for an hour or so to reset the ecu, to see if it would take it, but no dice.

so, now i am in a bit of a dilema, is it the wrong chip? has it been programmed wrong? is it just censored?

it fitted perfectly etc, so i am unsure as to what the situation with it is.

have emailed the company (no reply as i write this) so will have to see what happens!!

Re: 16v N/A chip [Re: ] #889400
26/08/2009 19:35
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If it started at all, the chip is intended for that ECU - but not necessarily yours. I wonder if it's intended for a 16vt?

The 16v/vt ecu doesn't reset, so there's no point zapping the power.


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Re: 16v N/A chip [Re: barnacle] #889437
26/08/2009 20:20
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i did wonder if it might be a turbo chip rolleyes , might explain why it started but would barely run.

the investigation continues... read

Re: 16v N/A chip [Re: ] #892996
02/09/2009 22:13
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ok well, brief update on this, company has emailed me and basically showed their complete ignorance on the matter, asking me to send my whole ecu to germany etc...

have been given full refund so will leave it at that and see what flea comes up with.

worth a punt i guess but turned out to be a dud!


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