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Book Review Thread #755872
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Where has it gone...?! I've been reading my little socks off and have nowhere to talk about it.

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I certainly shall if needs be, but I wanted to refer to things on it...

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I cant find it Jim. It looks like it has been pruned.:(

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Its not in deleted Jim, it looks like it has gone \:\(

Start a new one would be best from now on \:\)

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Definitely gone Jim. Just trawled through my posts and it only shows 187, at this time my post count is 497 so a fair few of my posts have disappeared it seems!

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Bloody censorship I call it...

So, anyway, I've recently been interspersing my usual frothy reading with a few works concerning rather more serious issues, since my girlfriend works in conflict resolution and counter-extremism; it's all laughs round here! These two were written by two of her former colleagues:

The first was A Million Bullets, by James Fergusson. A rather depressing account of the British Army's recent operations in Afghanistan, the book nonetheless highlights the fact that the failings are more (as one might expect) political rather than the fault of the overstretched and remarkably resilient British Forces. Worth a read if only to get a better idea of why we are there and who the people actually are that are getting shot at.

I also had a crack at "Revolt on the Tigris: The Sadr Uprising and Governing Iraq", which is written by Mark Etherington, who was appointed as one of the provincial governers for the coalition. It details the bewildering task facing him and his team (initially one person) in trying to restore some form of democratic self rule for the people of Iraq - outside of the best-known hotspots. The gaps in the political resources, the unwillingness of the hierarchy to understand the situation on the ground and Etherington's own self-confessed desire to do things "the right way" make for a nigh-on impossible task and a sobering read.

Despite the fairly heavy and solemn subject matter, both of these accounts are highly readable and cast a lot more, distinctly un-sensational light on both situations.

On a lighter note, I also read The Steep Approach to Garbadale last summer, the latest Iaian Banks. Not among his best, I'd say, but readable as ever. Reginald Hill's Dalziel and Pascoe continue to provide as much pleasure as the TV version brings me pain. A Cure for all Diseases is no exception, featuring a convalescing Dalziel conspicuously NOT being officially involved in a classic grisly murder at the Country House.

Picklehead by Rohan Candappa is the true story of a boy growing up in South London in the seventies and beyond against the backdrop of his family's Sri Lankan cultural heritage. Light and humorous in tone, but with some genuinely moving tales, the book's USP is the many and varied recipes it includes - some more appetising than others!

For Christmas, my literary cup overrunneth, having been given "Homicide - a year on the Killing Streets" by Wire author David Simon, Almost Unbelievable - Clive James' Memoirs, Things the Grandchildren should Know - by Mark E Everett (otherwise known as the singer with Eels) and Netherland, a complex story about a Dutch banker in Post 9/11 New York and cricket. I'm about 1/3 through it and it's shaping up nicely, though the style reflects the narrator's intense and pedantic character, making it hard to read quickly!

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I've just finished John O'Farrell's An Utterly Impartial History of Britain: (or 2000 Years of Upper Class Idiots in Charge).

Its about as impartial as you would expect with a title like that, and while 90% of it is well humoured and interesting enough, the remaining 10% I found very irritating. I'm not sure that a humourous re-write of the speeh Chamberlain made declaring war on Germany is actually in very good taste. Plus, O'Farrell loves the Labour Party and makes no effort whatsoever to hide it, so the bits about the last 100 years are rather skewed. Things can only get better is still his best book.

Before that was Watching the English by Kate Fox. Its a social anthropology book aimed squarely at the intelligent layman - and very very well observed. Makes you cringe every time you think 'Yes, that is a stupid bit of behaviour, and I do it every day'. If you liked Paxman's The English, you will probably like this.

Now reading Batting on the Bosphorous, which is a book about an improbable Cricket tour (See also Penguins Stopped Play), but funny.


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I loved Penguins Stopped Play - very readable, with a sad postscript. As a player of cricket in a vaguely improbable location, I'm a sucker for this stuff!

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Damn, I lent someone my copy of Watching the English... I shall have to ask them for its return. Only, being English, this is of course something which Is Not Done[tm]...


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I'm almost finished reading "Margrave of the Marshes" by John Peel and Shelia Ravenscroft. Its been hilarious, sad and intresting - and all for £2 for a charity shop!

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Since Xmas:

Morrissey's Perfect Pint. Nice light read and interesting little facts if you like your beer.

Wiffle Lever to Full.

Nice light read, bit of a nostalgia trip for the author as he spends a summer attending Sci-Fi conventions. If not into your sci-fi its propably not worth reading. If you are, it's possibly worth reading.

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Well, I finished Netherland and despite all the enticing ingredients, it was - for me - rather disappointing. The careful and even rather beautiful prose rather smothered the story and I found the characters frustrating. Possibly it was a deliberate device to show the characters' flaws, but I don't know...

I've now started the autobiography of Eels frontman Mark "E" Everett. Rather gloomy stuff so far, but written in a very readable and self-effacing style, pretty funny in places.

In between I read an incredible book called The Translator. Now, although this is my occupation, this story has no discernible connection with my life, thank God. It is the true story of a courageous man called Daoud Hari.

Hari is a Darfur tribesman who recounts the massacre and later the genocide of his people by the Arab-Sudanese government of Sudan, in a quest for land and mineral resources. The story is very simply written and the book can easily be devoured in a few hours, but it is a deeply affecting work, perhaps because of this. The unbearable cruelty of the Janjaweed militia, many of whose "soldiers" are only 14 years of age, the desperate plight of the IDP (Internally Displaced People), the ineffective intervention by outside organisations and - despite it all - Hari's good humour and humbling humanity.

He works as an interpreter (to be pedantic) between English-speaking journalists and the various militias and local people, enabling the story of the genocide to be told. He assists the UN, the BBC, New York Times and others, but he is considered to be a spy by the Sudanese government and, when finally captured, his life hangs by the finest of threads. Many times he expects to be shot, or worse.

But the humour - often rather black - is as funny as it is unexpected. At one point, a BBC journalist falls over onto an unexploded bomb. After the initial heart-in-mouth moment, Hari realises he has spent too long with Brits, as he starts to laugh. The shaken journalist asks why he's laughing; "Well, you'd have laughed if it had been me" replies Hari. "That's because if it had been you, it would have been funny" says the Englishman!

I seriously recommend The Translator - it gives a great insight into an appalling - and continuing *right now* - human disaster, but in a way that connects with the reader immediately. There's some extremely unpleasant and moving stuff, but a lot that's uplifting too...

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It's good to see the return of the book review thread - I did mean to post to it earlier, but things have been a bit hectic.

Anyway, my recent readings ...

Snuff by Chuck Palahniuk
I didn't rush out to buy this after his last, frankly dreaful, effort Rant, but I was bought it as a Christmas present. The story is set around an attempt by porn-star Cassie Wright to break a world record by having sex with 600 men in one day and takes place almost entirely in the grotty waiting area where three men, identified as 72, 139 and 600, interact, occasionally talking to Shelia, Cassie's personal assistant, who is organising the day.

Everybody expects Cassie to die during the record attempt, leaving a fortune in life insurance payouts to her child that she gave up for adoption 20 year previously and has not seen since.

The good news is that this book is a far better read than Rant, the bad news is that it's still nowhere close to Palahniuk's best work - it's certainly not up there with Haunted or Choke. For most of the time the story seems to lack direction and the bitter satire that he does so well is missing. It does provide laugh out loud moments, mainly at the titles of imaginary porn films that are scattered throughout, but the real porn industry churns out these titles just as well and you don't have to wade through a 300 page book to get them.

The Tales of Beadle the Bard by J K Rowling
This one was from Emma's Christmas pile and ... well, it's crap. Rowling fails to live up to her own depressingly low literary standards and delivers a book of 5 tales, tied in to the Harry Potter mythos through notes on each of the stories by Dumbledore. The whole thing takes about 30 minutes to read, and probably took about twice as long to write. Unless you absolutely must by every book with Rowling's name on the cover give this one a wide berth.

Watchmen by Alan Moore (illustrations by Dave Gibbons)
Finally buying my own copy of this book inspired me to re-read it and, once again, I took something new away from the experience.
For those who aren't familiar with this one it is the definitive graphic novel and one of the works most responsible for showing that comics didn't have to be aimed at children.
The story is set in late 1985, more than 8 years after a police strike forced America's masked adventurers to retire. Three of them remain active; the utterly immoral Comedian, the god-like Doctor Manhanttan - both of whom work directly for the government - and the vigilante fugitive Rorschach. When Rorschach begins investigating the murder of a diplomat, Edward Blake, he discovers that he was the Comedian and contacts the other heroes with his theory that one of their old enemies may be killing them.
Initially he is dismissed as paranoid, but when Doctor Manhattan, who is the lynch-pin of America's nuclear defence programme, is forced to leave Earth, an assassination attempt is made on another ex-hero and Rorschach himself is betrayed and imprisoned his old partner, Nite Owl, and another retired heroine, Silk Spectre, begin to investigate.
Ultimately the heroes discover that the events they have seen are part of a far larger plot, with world-shattering consequences, which is equally destructive to the morally black and white worlds they live in.
What gives this story depth is that, unlike traditional comics, where super-heroes tread lightly upon the world, the alternative America portrayed is one where the presence of super-heroes, particularly Doctor Manhattan, has made a huge difference to life. It also provides insight in to the minds of those who would think it was a good idea to wear a costume and beat up criminals. The Comedian and Rorschach are both mysoginistic and right-wing, almost to the point of Nazism, Doctor Manhattan, who has seemingly unlimited powers and complete knowledge of his own past and future, is detached from humanity and Nite Owl's sexual ability is tied to his costumed identity.
Within the story is a sub-plot, unfolding as a young man reads the classic pirate comic Tales of the Black Freighter, wherein a stranded mariner is driven by love and nobel desires down a path of utmost horror and in to insanity, which provides a neat parallel to the heroes' investigation. There's also the background of mounting nuclear tension between America and Russian, each chapter of the story starting with a doomsday clock, its hands getting closer to midnight.
Hopefully the release of the forthcoming film will encourage more people to overcome their prejudices and give Watchmen a try - by any standards it's a classic - intelligent, complex, multi-layered and moving ... and not a "ka-pow!" in sight.


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Dam Busters - A Landmark Oral History by Max Arthur

You've seen the film, you know the march, but this book tells us the real story, in the words of the people who made it happen.

One of the most famous raids of all time, this book gives a fascinating insight into the planning and execution of the raid. Told in a series of interviews with the major players in the raid, Wallis, Gibson even Goebbels and Speer.

It's quite something to get a better feel for the men who flew on that raid. To understand their sense of duty, their fears and their elation.

The staff and groundcrew at Scampton and their realtionships with the crews, together with the work they put in for a mission they knew nothing about.

It goes deeper than that, with eyewitness accounts of the devastation the floodwaters caused by the people it affected. Thats the forgotten side of the raid and it's hard not to feel for the civilians who bore the brunt of the floodwaters.

For anyone interested in WW2 I'd recommend it.

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To go with that, you should also read the book 'The Dambusters' by Paul Brickhill. And in a reference to another thread, note the name of Guy Gibson's dog, used as a code word for success in the raid, and what it was changed to in the film.


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By one of those strange quirks of fate, the daily mail (I think) are giving the film away with the paper tomorrow (sat.).

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The graveyard book by Neil Gaiman

As Gaiman's last book for children, Coraline, was a huge success it's good to see him unleashing his dark imagination onto younger readers again with this book.

The story opens with an unnamed toddler accidentally escaping the clutches of a murderer who has dispatched the rest of his family and wandering in to a graveyard, the residents of whom rescue him, name him Nobody Owens (Bod, for short) and resolve to bring him up. Given the freedom of the graveyard he can see the dead, walk through solid objects and see in the dark and the book describes his life up until the age of 15.

Given the age of the central character, his deceased parents and his unflappable guardian, Silas (who is neither of the living nor the dead) and the target audience comparisons to Harry Potter are perhaps inevitable, but Gaiman creates a much darker, more satisfying world which, in contrast to Rowling's work, feels more consistent and unhampered by over-working.

This is a great book, which will delight anybody from 10 upwards, although younger readers may find it a little scary and moan about the lack of a happy ending.


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I finished "Things the Grandchildren should Know" by Eeels lead-singer, Mark E Everett, but was left feeling that he is pretty much having a long whinge. He has had enormously bad luck, not least in terms of the untimely deaths of many of his family and friends, but beyond cataloguing this and the number of rejections he receives from the record company, leaving him crying, there isn't much to engage the reader.

I'm now enjoying with great relish the work that inspired The Wire: Homicide by David Simon...

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 Originally Posted By: AndrewR
Snuff by Chuck Palahniuk
I didn't rush out to buy this after his last, frankly dreaful, effort Rant, but I was bought it as a Christmas present. The story is set around an attempt by porn-star Cassie Wright to break a world record by having sex with 600 men in one day and takes place almost entirely in the grotty waiting area where three men, identified as 72, 139 and 600, interact, occasionally talking to Shelia, Cassie's personal assistant, who is organising the day.

Everybody expects Cassie to die during the record attempt, leaving a fortune in life insurance payouts to her child that she gave up for adoption 20 year previously and has not seen since.

The good news is that this book is a far better read than Rant, the bad news is that it's still nowhere close to Palahniuk's best work - it's certainly not up there with Haunted or Choke. For most of the time the story seems to lack direction and the bitter satire that he does so well is missing. It does provide laugh out loud moments, mainly at the titles of imaginary porn films that are scattered throughout, but the real porn industry churns out these titles just as well and you don't have to wade through a 300 page book to get them.


Just read Fight Club. I've been a fan of the film ever since I first saw it in a Bangkok bar (it got a standing ovation in a bar!!).
To be honest, I wasn't so impressed with the book.

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I think Fight Club is one of a very few films that is better than the book it's based on. Hmmm, could be a thread of its own there...

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The graveyard book by Neil Gaiman


I had the delight of hearing Neil read the first chapter a year ago (before it was published). Excellent, and he read it very well; I'd buy the book based on that chapter. Indeed, I'd like to hear it done on Radio Four.


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I think Fight Club is one of a very few films that is better than the book it's based on. Hmmm, could be a thread of its own there...


Yes, the film of Fight Club is better than the book, but don't forget it was a first novel and the result of Palahniuk taking a creative writing course - he's written better since.

I'd say that Haunted is his best work to date (providing you've a strong stomach) and is well worth a read.


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Re: Book Review Thread [Re: AndrewR] #777477
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Have just finished Sniper One by SGT Dan Mills. Totally addictive and makes Bravo Two Zero look like a tea party by comparison. Best military non-fiction book I've ever read. 10/10. Check the reviews on Amazon!



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I'm half way through The Saga of Guns n Roses(xmas pressie from my daughter)...Quite interesting, very rock n roll and I'm enjoying it. So much so, Buckcherry came off the car CD player and GNR went on. Its interesting listening to songs you've loved for years after reading about the people and places and incidents they are about. Mr Brownstone, I'd always assumed, was about hash, but its not its about brown heroin. And I'm pretty sure alot of my friends assumed it was hash aswell. Normally I dont pay much attention to the people behind the music I like, but I find myself listening to appetite for destruction with a new perspective.

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Naomi Kleine - Shock Doctrine

Well researched and constructed. It's a real eye opener to the ways of the large corporations and the US and British governments.

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Is that the same Naomi Klein that wrote 'No Logo'?


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Yes. Nuff said.

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just reading Duma by Stephen King. for some reason i find most of his books eminently readable, but somehow feel guilty for doing so. i feel i should be reading the classics or some arcane poetry book, and try to educate myself - but i always find myself reading something "candy-flossy"

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I know that feeling, Proccy. I reckon as long as it's not Dan Brown, it's ok to read anything! But then I have recently binged on more "worthy" stuff...

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Nothing wrong with Stephen King, but I know what you mean. I went through a phase of reading some Steinbeck, Dickens and a few other "heavier books", but still go back to the trashy horror and crime section in Smiths everytime.

King is one of the worlds biggest selling authors, so he must be doing something right, sure you will get the people who say his books are cheap horror trash, but these are people who wear slippers and cardigans and listen to radio 4 wink

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Originally Posted By: barnacle
Is that the same Naomi Klein that wrote 'No Logo'?


Yes. I have acopy but I haven't read that one yet.

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Yes. Nuff said.


Do I take it that it wasn't your cup of tea?

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I'm afraid not. But I know I can be a bit ranty about stuff like this!

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Personally don't like Stephen King. Always starts off nice and exciting, but in the last quarter of the book / movie it always goes paranormal and supernatural.


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And yet he speaks so highly of you, KJ!

If you want some off-beat and high-tech science fiction, consider Charlie Stross. Singularity Sky is a favourite, but there are plenty of others to choose from.

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Best English books I've written...

Raymond E Feist - Magician (THE best book and I found it way better than any Tolkien material - have quite some books of the series that followed).

And I quite loved reading Isaac Asimov when I was like 13-14.

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Kayjay, i am a huge Feist and Asimov fan.
You should try and pick up the feist series again, its just gets better and better. Pug and Tomas are such wonderful characters.

If you like Feist and Asimov, I would recommend Peter F Hamilton's books. In my opinion he is the greatest modern Sci Fi writer. I am currently re-reading the Neutronium Alchemist for the fith time. Its wonderfully dark in places and still gives me nightmares.

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I read Magician (and, ISTR, a couple of the sequels) when I was 13 or 14, but I've never re-read them, even though I enjoyed them at the time. Maybe I should give them another go.


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I think I have around 10-11 books of the series, but unfortunately most of them in Dutch. So probably up to 'Shards of a Broken Crown'. I still consider Magician to be THE best as there are so many (easy to follow though!) parallel stories ALL of which are equally exciting. Really - anyone who liked Tolkien should definitely give Magician a go! These books are superb.

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Peter Hamilton, yes. Though I find I prefer his earlier stuff - the ones set near future in England - than the later. And anything by Neil Stephenson. And Alistair Reynolds and Iain M. Banks - though if you don't like phonetic English you might want to avoid Feersum Endjinn. It's an interesting experiment but my word it's hard work.


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And anything by Neil Stephenson.


I like Neil Stephenson, but, by god, he can't write a good ending to save his life. After reading Cryptonomicon for the first time I vowed that on any re-reads I'd stop 30 pages from the end, and as for the ending of Snow crash, well the less said the better ...


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Well, I'm working my way through the new Stephenson: Anathem at the moment; it's getting better as I get along and I start to understand the background.

And I may have just found the coolest line in science fiction: "Our opponent is an alien starship packed with atomic bombs. We have a protractor."


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No Sci-Fi at all, but I recently finished Young Stalin by Simon Sebag Montefiore. Not light reading, I'll grant you, but I usually enjoy this kind of thing.

Interesting stuff, but a bit plodding in places. I'm pretty interested in modern-ish history, and this was good enough, but I'm not sure I'd recommend it unless you are *really* interested in the subject matter - a wikipedia entry is probably almost as informative. Tell you what though, he was a proper scoundrel.

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Lately I've been hooked on Salmon Rushdie. I like to read everything an author has written at one time, then I move to another author. You learn a lot more and the stories make more sense. Rushdie has a great combination of wit and realism. smile I read the "Satanic Verses" first, which hooks anyone, and now am into his newest and most controversial. "The Enchantress of Florence" is a great catch by him and "Midnight's Children" has been another good read.

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In middle of The Fighting Man by Gerald Seymour.

Haven't read anything like this since I was a 'Warlord Agent' and looked forward each week to reading the exploits of Union Jack Jackson.

So much easier to read than Marx and Engels Communist Manifesto!

Anyway it mentions Northern Ireland, and an old Fiat so it must be worth reading.

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I'm halfway through "Delorean" by John Z. Can't decide if he has a huge conspiracy complex or was genuinely done over by the DEA/FBI/UK Government and US Government!

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Well despite having had nothing to fill my days for months now I haven't been reading very much, but I decided to rectify this and, so, I've been on a bit of a reading splurg.

Nation by Terry Pratchett

This was a Christmas present that I've been studiously ignoring since I recieved it and, as it turned out, that was the best couse of action. There's nothing particularly wrong with this book, but that's about the best that can be said for it. It's the story of Mau, a young man living in The Nation, a small South Pacific island in an alternative late 19th century world. As he makes his way back from the Boys' Island, to become a man, he is swept up by a huge tidal wave which, when he finally makes it home, he discovers has also destroyed the rest of the Nation and killed its people. It's also run aground a trouserman ship, The Sweet Judy, and its sole survivor, a ghost girl who calls herself Daphne.

The book tells the story of the growing friendship between the two youngsters from vastly different backgrounds, as they start to build a society from the survivors of the other nearby islands devestated by the wave and as they await the arrival of the cannibals and other trousermen.

The main issue is that this book can't quite decide what it wants to be. It veers between love story and social commentary without ever really hitting on anything interesting or original to say. One can only hope that this doesn't prove to be the capstone on Pratchett's writing career, as he is capable of so much better.

Red Riding - 1974 by David Peace

A completely different theme here, as those who watch Channel 4's excellent trilogy will know.

In the titular year Edward Dunford returns from down South to his native Yorkshire and takes the post of North of England crime correspondent for The Yorkshire Post, which plunges him straight in to the disappearance of a young girl, abducted on her way home from school and who later turns up raped, tortured and brutally murdered, with swan wings stitched to her back.

Although this book fits in to the crime drama genre, one thing it is completely unconcerned with is actually solving the murder (which appears to be linked to similar disappearances starting in 1968, where no bodies were ever recovered). Instead it's a stream of consciousness from Edward as he uncovers police corruption and brutality which seems to lie on the edge of a British revolution. This certainly isn't a book for the squeamish - aside from the bloody murder that lies at its heart there is a graphic depiction of both sex and torture and the Peace does an excellent job of plunging the reader into Dunford's grimy world, where these is nobody he can turn to for salvation.

If you can follow the complex story through this grime, and through Dunford's smoking, drinking and vomiting, then this is an excellent novel which leaves you keen to follow the story through in to the three sequels - 1977, 1980 and 1983.

The Lovely Bones by Alice Sebold

I picked this book up on a whim at the same time as I bought the previous one, which is funny as, on the face of it, there are a lot of similarities. This story is set a year earlier, in 1973, and also centres around the rape and murder of a young girl, this time the 14 year old Susie Salmon, and, as previously, the focus of the book is far from the solving of the crime.

Those superficial details aside this couldn't be a more different tale to the dark world of Red Riding. Following Susie's death she watches, from heaven, life unfold for her family over the next 10 years and sees how her death changes them all.

While this novel doesn't have the hard edge of Peace's work it also doesn't pull any punches, and Sebold builds a very real picture of a family struggling to cope with a terrible loss. It's a beautifully crafted, emotional tale and doesn't rely on schmaltz to get its message over.


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Ok being an old un i quite like to read/hold "books" etc wink as opposed to sitting in front of the PC every night - so can anybody recommend any good reading matter for the coop?
Its just a shame Haynes didnt do one for these fab cars - would have been a good read me thinks...
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I've been reading "The Life of Senna", it's a good read if F1 and the man himself are of any interest to you.

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Time for a spot of Thread ressurection.

Recently finished The Black Swan by Naseem Nicholas Taleb. If I had to define it I'd say it was an economics book, but its really about uncertainty, and particularly how we are not able to cope with it, and how we can be entirely blind to it. Its more in the Freakonomics vein, but thats not a fair comparison. Interesting stuff, but it took some work. Taleb is a lively author, and writes in a really engaging way, but some of the things he is trying to explain make your brain ache, as its outside our normal ways of thinking. It also picked up the fudamentally unstable position of the banking industry in 2006 (when it was written) and picks on Fannie Mae as an unstable bank. Crikey. Very provocative, and its still making me think.

If anyone has read it and can recommend similar, please do.

Before that Pies and Prejudice by Stuart Maconie - pretty much what you would expect from Maconie. I found it funny, as a grumpy Northern git myself. Loved the definition of a Northern town - A street with a Superdrug and a Greggs.

Also Robber Bride by Margaret Atwood. Interwoven stories of 3 women in Toronto, and their highly exploitative relationships with a 4th woman, Zenia. These relationships were what brought them together. Its good stuff, as the reader's picture of Zenia builds through the stories of the 3 women, and it leaves you wondering who the real victim was. Atwood books are usually very good. This was no exception.


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Just read "Tricks of the Mind" by Derren Brown.

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Whilst on holiday recently I read a couple of books.

Devil May Care by Sebastian Faulks writing as Ian Fleming. It was crap. I could go on so I shall. Imagine someone kidnapped Dan Brown, beat him around the head with a blunt instrument a few times and then forced him to write a James Bond novel. I know it's Bond, but the characters were weak, the plot line was very thin and the twist at the end was apparent from about 4 chapters in. Don't bother unless you only read books to make yourself feel better about the amount of TV you watch.

The Butt by Will Self. Having just read the trash I described above I had high hopes for this book and it really didn't disappoint. From the most innocuous of beginnings with a man giving up smoking by discarding his last burnt down smoke off his hotel balcony, Self manages to create a mysterious and rich land as a backdrop for a great story. The plot overview is that the butt injures a man below and the archaic laws of this strange country mean reparations have to be paid, but it plays out and twists in ways that have your mind racing, not the plot line itself. If you have an attention span longer than "Look, shiny!" then I can't see how anyone couldn't enjoy this novel. One of few new works of fiction that have left me deeply moved and somewhat disturbed when I came to the last page.

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I haven't seen the old book review thread pop up here for a while, so rather than trawling through the archives for it I thought I'd start a new thread.

One of the mods is welcome to stitch this on to the end of the old thread, if they can be bothered (and if they can't then what the hell do we pay them for, eh?).

I've actually only got one book to add, but it was one that I loved, so I wanted to write it up ...

Bad Science by Ben Goldacre

Ben Goldacre is both a doctor and a columnist for The Guardian and it's hardly surprising therefore that the main thrust of this book is the relationship between medicine and the media. While he tackles familiar subjects - do alternative medicines work, are nutrionalists frauds, are drug companies evil - the over-riding message is that it's almost impossible for even an intelligent person to make informed decisions based on what's reported in the press.

Given that Goldacre covers such fascinating subjects as how clinical trial work (or are supposed to) and how statistics are gathered and reported this could have been a very dry work indeed, but he's got a witty turn of phrase and, apart from occasionally being a little patronising, he's a pleasure to read.

I suspect that if you have any belief at all in alternative medicines then this book will make you feel, at least, slightly uncomfortable. Alternatively it may make you genuinely angry at how much bunk is pedalled, aided and abetted by the media and, in some cases, governments or even royalty. Either way I'd heartly recommend it - you'll never see a medical item on the news in the same way again.


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This is on my "generic online book store" wish list. I also added to my last order but grabed a Dawkins books instead.

The Derren Brown book sounds similar as some of the chapters are regarding stats, alternative medicine and logic traps

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I reckon Vickster may have something to say here...!

In book terms, I've mostly read crap lately, as I seem to be addicted to Police Procedural. I read Ian Rankin's post-Rebus Doors Open, but it just wasn't the same without the seedy, smoke-reeking old curmudgeon. The latest Reginald Hill Dalziel and Pascoe was as good as ever (I really enjoy these for my sins), but Lynda LaPlante's Deadly Intent was poorly researched cack. Repeatedly talking about a Mercedes car "jack-knifing" in a motorway accident was the final straw. I won't be rushing to read another of hers...

I did read a few rather more interesting bits and bobs though:

Salam Pax's Baghdad Blog is a great window on what it was like for ordinary Iraqi's in the build-up to and during the second Gulf War. Written with sharp humour and a style that will surprise many with its "Western-ness". My wife recently spent a week working in Baghdad and met the author, who is apparently a thoroughly nice bloke.

The Buddha, Geoff and Me is a light read in novel form that deals with Buddhism and its relevance to everyday life. At times annoying and patronising, but generally quite enlightening (ha!) and without too many pat conclusions, I quite enjoyed it as a beginner's guide.

My favourites of the summer were two books dealing loosely with the same subject (Eastern Europeans coming to the UK to find work). The first is Two Caravans by Marina Lewycka (who wrote Short History of Tractors in Ukranian, though I have yet to read this). We meet a disparate group of mostly illegal workers initially picking strawberries in Kent, though through a chain of amusing and less-amusing events, the main protagonists end up in London and on a quest to get to Sheffield, home to the mythical leader "Vloonki".

Generally light in tone, there is some dark stuff here too. I liked it.

The next book I read turned out to share a theme: The Road Home, by Rose Tremain. This is a much less frivolous-seeming treatment of the subject, but ironically, lacks the extreme nastiness of Two Caravans. Overall, and possibly because the lead character Lev is allowed some fairly big character flaws, I really liked The Road Home. There is a critical look at us, the British, combined with some of the better aspects of our national character. There is tragedy, pain, humour and, eventually, redemption.
Has to be my favourite for some time.

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Bad Science by Ben Goldacre


Reading this at the moment - it is very interesting as is Dawkins's Modern Science book

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It's good to see this thread back again, even if my most recent read has been very much a re-read ...

Fermat's last theorem by Simon Singh

For a book which is, essentially, a history of mathematics to become a number one best-seller says a lot about the skill of the author, but that's what Singh managed when Fermat's Last Theorem was published in the late 90s.

The story, in brief, is that Fermat - a 17th century amateur (but very gifted) mathematician - was playing with variations on Pythagorean triples which say that X^2 + Y^2 = Z^2 and for which it can be proven that there are an infinite number of whole number solutions (X=3, Y=4 and Z=5 being the first). However when the equation is moved from square numbers to cubed or larger numbers there don't appear to be any solutions at all, i.e. X^n + Y^n = Z^n has no whole number solutions for values of n > 2.

Although mathematicians could not find any whole numbers to fit this equation they also could not prove that, in the infinity of numbers, no such solution existed. Fermat infuriated generations of mathematicians by writing, in the margin of a book containing the equation, "I have a truly marvellous proof for this, which unfortunately this margin is too small to contain". His proof seems never to have been written down or discussed with anybody else and so the problem haunted mathematicians from the discovery of Fermat's note, after his death.

Singh opens the book with the lecture at Cambridge in 1993 where British mathematician Andrew Wiles first announced his proof of the theorem, but then moves back in time to Pythagoras and the origins of mathematics as a scientific discipline rather than just an accountancy or problem-solving tool. He then takes us through the history of maths right up to Wiles' remarkable proof.

This could easily have been the dullest, driest book in the world, but every chapter of it sparkles. Although most people (well, me, anyway) will have lost track of the mathematics by the time Fermat himself enters the scene Singh does a remarkable job of making the esoteric world of number theory understandable and manages to explain underlying concepts of the maths without ever sounding like a textbook.

It's only really the closing chapters of the book, which cover the discovery of a gap in Wiles' proof and his work to fix the problem (which he did by 1996) which really are too abstract to work well with this treatment. Overall this is a stunning book - it is a history of 3,000 years of maths and the brilliant, often tragic, figures who transformed it, it's the story of one person's obsession with solving a problem and it's the story of the problem itself, which hung over maths like a cloud for 350 years. I really can't recommend it highly enough.


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On a similar vein, I recently read Longitude by Dava Sobel, which is about the search for a reliable method for sailors to establish longitude when out of sight of land. It really is amazing to think how much calamity was caused by not being able to accurately determine longitude.

This is another scientific best seller, in this case with partial thanks to Del Boy Trotter, as it rotates around (see what I did there?) John Harrison's lifelong quest to get the Board of Longitude to accept his Sea Clocks, against the most entrenched opposition.

This could also have been the dullest book in the world. It isn't. Its very informative, and similarly to the above, written in a really engaging way, which keeps you coming back.


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Agree with the sentiments of both posts. There's also a book Simon Singh wrote about code breaking - the title escapes me - but also well worth noting.

Though you may not be aware that Singh is in deep at the moment - he's being sued under the Byzantine and unfair UK libel laws.

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I read and enjoyed Longitude a few years ago, but I fear that Fermat may be beyond me.

I'm currently reading A case of Exploding Mangoes by Mohammed Hanif and it's shaping up well. It's a fictional account of the events leading up to the death of Pakistani dictator General Zia Ul Haq, featuring conspiracy amid the Pakistani armed forces and a comically surreal and witty style. Unfortunately, I only have time to read when I take my infrequent trips to France to see my kids, so everything takes a fair while to get through.

Before this I read Salaam Brick Lane by Tarquin Hall - an interesting history of the immigrant communities that have populated this area of London for centuries, beginning with the Huguenots from France, through the East-European Jewish settlers to the modern day Bangladeshis now being replaced by Afghans and (mainly) Somalis. Colourful goes without saying, but as the book is told from the perspective of a white, middle class "native" Englishman who finds himself - reluctantly at first - living on Brick Lane, it also has some more down-to-earth realities.

When I finish my current read, I have the new Iaiaiaiaian Banks awaiting, Transition, which I hope is better than his last...

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Isn't it Simon Singh that is being sued about his comments on alternative medicine? I think he's a friend of Tim Minchin (if it's him).

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Agree with the sentiments of both posts. There's also a book Simon Singh wrote about code breaking - the title escapes me - but also well worth noting.


It's called The Code Book and is, indeed, an excellent read, although some of the later chapters on quantum cryptography have to be read very carefully if you're to understand their significance.

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Though you may not be aware that Singh is in deep at the moment - he's being sued under the Byzantine and unfair UK libel laws.


I didn't know this, but I've just read up on it quickly. Alternative medicine, and the prestigious support it enjoys in this country, is really starting to pee me off, I tell you.

Anyway, back on topic. I have just finished Shakespeare by Bill Bryson - a biography that goes to great pains to tell us how hard it is to write a biography of Shakespeare, because we know next to nothing about him. We don't know excatly when he was born, we can't definitely place him except on a few dates in his life, we don't know what order he wrote his works in, we know nothing of his sexuality and we have only 14 words written in his own handwriting - 8 of them on one document, his will.

So what Bryson presents is as much as we do know, a background to late Elizabethan/early Jacobian life and some details of the wild surmises that other biographers, historical and more contemporary, have jumped to. He does all of this with his usual light touch, making this fairly slim volume an easy work to romp through at a fair old pace (I read most of it in a hospital bed, yesterday, while awaiting the doctor with the 2 half-bricks). As is usual for Bryson he adds colour with potted biographies of some of Shakespeare's contemporaries and later researchers, which means that this book isn't wall-to-wall bard.

In all it's a great book, which many will not read because they are put off by the subject - most of us having Shakespeare forced upon us at school - but it's worth persevering past the title page, even if you have only the most casual of interest.


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Alternative medicine, and the prestigious support it enjoys in this country, is really starting to pee me off, I tell you.


As Tim Minchin says: "You know what they call 'alternative medicine' that’s been proved to work?
Medicine."

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Apropos of which, Monday's Beyond Belief is no doubt still available on iPlayer. I couldn't make my mind up whether to laugh or cry as three loons discussed the relative efficacy of various alternate quackeries.


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Monstrous Regiment by Pterry Pratchett. What can I say... ptypically Pterry laugh It's about a girl who dresses as a boy and enlists in the army to find her brother. Set in a land where the God (Nuggan) is very fond of declaring abominations, the latest ones being rocks and accordian players. The army of Borogrovia is constantly at war with everyone, but is running out of soldiers, money and food, but refuses to stop.

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Amazing Tales for Making Men Out of Boys by Neil Oliver.
I first heard about this book while the author was being interviewed on BBC2 a year ago. For one reason or another I have put off reading it until now.
This book chronicles the greatest Hero stories in history, from Charge of the light brigade to Apollo 11 and 13, The siege of Constantinople, and many others. The authors genuine empathy and humanity comes across in this book and the narration is filled with incidental anecdotes that add a truly legendary flavour to the stories told. Some of the tales I am very familiar with (shackleton's expedition via Georgia) some, I read about for the first time (the devils of camerone..wow). Each one told with colour and feeling. I would rate this book 8.5 out of ten and recommend all growing boys from 8 to 80 to read this book, if it was not for the one issue that had me groaning throughout.

The problem..

It is clear that all of us are susceptible to a little National pride now and again, I am Welsh and so I know what it means to have nationalistic pride (even when its not justified sometimes..(OK. most of the time)). This author (Scottish) takes this to a whole new level. I had to check the inside cover more than once to make sure the publisher was not the Scottish national party or some such organisation. What I am talking about here is a ridiculous need by the author to include the names of Scots who were linked to one of the stories (however tenuous the link). Obviously some Scots deserve special mention in some of the stories Collingwood for starters. ( I always thought he had a bad deal in the shadow of nelson during Trafalgar). It gets so bad that if you look at the black and white photos in the centre section of the book, you will find a picture of captain Scott. Underneath this photo are the words.."The greatest hero of them all). I honestly believe that the reason the author believes this, has more to do with the explorers name than anything he did. If you think that ridiculous, so would I, until I read this book.
This book could have been great, really great, damn you Neil Oliver.

I actually struggled through this book in the end, something a reader should never have to do.
so its a 4 out of 10 from me. I had such high hopes for this book.

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Finally got around to reading The Road by Cormac McCarthy. Epic book. Am emotionally drained. 10/10.

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A cult (yes, cult) book for the thread now ... The Beach by Alex Garland.

On his first night on the tourist trail in Thailand English backpacker Richard is kept awake by the Scottish guy in the next room ranting about a beach. The next day the Scot, who gave his name as Daffy Duck, has slit his wrists, but not before he's passed to Richard a beautifully drawn map showing the location of the beach he obsessed about.

Richard, accompanied by a French couple he meets - Etienne and Francoise - set off in search of the mythical location, hidden on an island in a Thai nature reserve where tourists are forbidden. What they find is an idyllic tropical paradise which is the home to 30 or so travellers of all nationalities who have isolated themselves from the world.

Life for the 3 newcomers becomes beautiful, as they settle in to the routine of fishing, swimming and forgetting about their previous lives. Naturally not all is well. The beach commune shares the island with a Thai drug-lord and his cannabis fields, with a seemingly unspoken agreement between the two groups to ignore each other. The greater threat, however, is the insanity that comes with isolation and which starts to make itself felt in the lengths that the beach-dwellers will go to in order to keep their paradise secret and prevent the disintegration of the community.

Because the story is told in the first person from Richard's perspective it's easy to follow him through his journey without realising just how far insane he has gone, in spite of his dreams about Daffy Duck becoming full-blown hallucinations, but his new life starts to blend in to his video-game obsession and fascination with the Vietnam war, leading to a shattering conclusion.

Garland builds the story magnificently, keeping you turning the pages and saving the darkest sides of island life until right at the end, when you're finally allowed to see how far from sanity and morality the group have strayed.

By any criteria this is a great book, a meandering story that pulses with foreboding about events to come, populated with well drawn characters and with something to say about the price of paradise.


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And - you won't be surprised to hear - the book beats the crap out of the film. Although you'll be hard pushed to find a better soundtrack of its time.

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I've read The Tessaract - it was ambitious, but flawed.


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I have just read A few kind words and a loaded gun by Noel 'Razor' Smith

Razor is a habitual criminal and this is his story, at the point of writing he was 42 years of age and had spent more than half his life behind bars. It starts from his birth, his troubled childhood, his life in and out of young offender institues, prisons and the outside world.

Its a fantastic read, its gritty and doesn't hold back. All in all Razor is not a nice person, but he knows that. The part of his life in prison are excellent reading and certainly paints a different picture to what the Daily Mail would have you believe!

What made it great for me, was the area Razor was brought up in, is not far from me, South London. Many of the pubs he mentions are pubs I drunk in as a teenager, I always thought they were rough places, I just never knew ot what extent!

So if you like true life stories, don't hesitate to read this.

PS. I read it one day, just couldn't put it down!

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Has it really been 4 months since anybody on here read a book worth talking about? Oh well, I'll add my thoughts on ...

Ender's Game by Orson Scott Card

This is a much acclaimed science fiction book, which is probably what persuaded me to read it, despite my general lack of fondness for SF.

The story starts on Earth, about 70 years after mankind's 2nd war with the insectiod alien race known as 'the buggers'. Mankind would have been destroyed in 2nd war without the tactical genius of Mazer Rackham, so an uneasy political treaty maintains the International Force which selects promising children to train to be the future saviours of mankind.

Andrew 'Ender' Wiggin is selected, at the age of 6, to leave his family and enter the elite off-world Battle School and the story tells of his emerging tactical genius and how he is manipulated by the adults around him, hoping to mould him. Ender's childhood is sold to buy a future for humanity, as he is deliberately isolated, made to repeatedly face unfair odds, trained to exhaustion and pushed almost to the point of insanity. However, it's not until the novel's climax that Ender realises just how deep the lies go and sees what he has become.

This isn't a bad book, but for me it seemed to lack any real depth and it pushes of suspension of belief to breaking point to accept that the words and actions described come from children under the age of 12. That said, it kept me turning the pages and the revelations at the end of the story are enough to make me want to read the sequel, Speaker for the dead.

Given that apparently <ahem> you can easily find a pdf of the full novel on the net it's worth Googling and having a read.


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Good review there Andrew. I read this book many years ago and it was a great book for someone just getting to grips with Sci-Fi for the first time.
Other Orson S Card books have left me a little cold, although Speaker for the Dead is one of his better ones IIRC.



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I finished A Case of Exploding Mangoes as above and it was pretty good. One of those "heading for an already inevitable ending" books, which leads me neatly on to Transition, the latest by Iain Banks. Although not an Iain M. Banks, this is him doing that sci-fi masquerading as normal fiction thing, and I think he does it well. The story is told from the perspective of a number of protagonists whose future relationship becomes gradually clearer. The title is derived from the discovery that there is an almost infinite number of parallel worlds and that certain people can slip or transition in between them. As ever, there is a shady power that seeks to control this, in this instance the Concern. Although it's not the most imaginative of Banks' books, I enjoyed it as a readable romp, unlike the stodgy and frankly dull Steep Approach to Garbadale. If you can't be bothered to read it, it's available as a free podcast on Amazon. Which is nice!

I'm now reading the first of Stieg Larsson's ubiquitous Millennium Trilogy - The Girl with The Dragon Tattoo. It's a very slow starter for a thriller, and seems rather stilted in a stiff, Scandinavian way. I have a sense that it's been translated, but that may just be my professional radar working overtime. Now that I'm 300 pages into it, I'm enjoying it and may seek the second book when I've finished. I'll let you know...

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Well, following on from Ender's Game last week, this week I have mainly been reading ...

Speaker for the dead by Orson Scott Card

Three thousand years have passed since the end of the bugger wars and, in that time, mankind has spread out to colonize a hundred worlds amongst the stars. Ender is remembered as the worst human who ever lived, for his part in the genocide (or xenocide) of the buggers, but under his pseudonym - the speaker for the dead - which he used to write the history of the bugger race he is remembered as one of the greatest humans, the founder of a vast humanist religion.

On all of the inhabited star systems only one has been found to hold other intelligent life - Lusitania, a remote world colonized by Portuguese-speaking Brazilian Catholics. They share their world with the 'piggies', a primitive tribal race that are observed under strict controls, to prevent human contamination of their society.

When the piggies brutally murder one of the scientists who had befriended them his adoptive daughter sends out for a speaker to speak of his life.

Ender has spent much of the time since the bugger wars travelling between worlds at near light speed, so from his personal perspective only quarter of a century has passed. He is also carrying with him the last remaining queen of the buggers, looking for a planet where he can leave her to rebuild bugger society. He answers the call for a speaker and, after nearly 30 years of space travel, arrives to find himself in the middle of a delicate situation, where Catholicism, alien culture, deep rooted secrets and human fear are clashing.

As with Ender's Game this book felt very lightweight to me and I couldn't shake off the impression that I was reading a children's book. There are elements that I quite like; mankind's lack of understanding in a lot of the technology they have, the alien culture of the piggies and the 'realistic' treatment of near light-speed travel, but the novel from Ender's arrival on Lusitania reads like one extended deus ex machina ending, devoid of any real conflict.

Anyway, if I've decided not to read any more in the series, so I'm off to find something completely new to try. Something a bit more grown-up, hopefully.


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Fire by Kristin Kashore

This is the 2nd book of the 7 Kingdoms Trilogy (the 1st being Graceling which i have also read).

She is the last of her kind...

It is not a peaceful time in the Dells. In King City, the young King Nash is clinging to the throne, while rebel lords in the north and south build armies to unseat him. War is coming. And the mountains and forest are filled with spies and thieves. This is where Fire lives, a girl whose beauty is impossibly irresistible and who can control the minds of everyone around her.


It's pretty light reading and can be read with little effort put in but it does completely capture you with the way the world has been shaped by the author.

If i am honest i am about 3 quarters through and i still believe Graceling was the much better book but both are worth a read.

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Iceberg by Clive Cussler:

Major Dirk Pitt finds a boat that was never lost, visits Disney Land, saves the world and turns down the chance of sex with a post op transexual. All fuelled by copious amounts of alchol and cigarettes.

A ripping yarn indeed.

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Okay a variety to choose from, for various tastes - random bookshelf pickings.

I do enjoy (although that is probably the wrong word) accounts of miscarriages of justice. Very influenced by the old Rough Justice series (and I recommend anyone who does not know about the Stefan Kiszko case should do!) They obviously always try to do things one step better in the US, so ended up reading a non-fiction John Grisham, An Innocent Man. Worth reading and, I suspect the only time the author is going to be mentioned in this thread!

Hanif Kureshi - The Body and other collected stories. You know what, some people swoon at his writing, and it is well written, but it wasn't doing anything for me. The Body is an interesting conceit though. All started feeling a bit self-indulgent towards the end.

Dice Man - Luke Rheinhart (George Cockcroft). A seminal work, that I probably would have enjoyed more had I got round to reading it when I was younger. As it is it felt like a big adult book for the Nuts generation. Unpleasant. For the first time ever I binned a book rather than allow someone else to read it.

A Reliable Wife - Robert Goolrick. Pick of this bunch. Very interesting literary devices (that were new to me anyway). Not a great deal of action - relying more on its language, but a tale told well and beautifully paced and written. Interesting because I didn't want to like this one, but I wanted to like Mr Kureshi. I have no doubt it is the sort of book that Oprah and Richard and Judy will have recommended and I feel terribly dirty.

In my desperation for reading material I even picked up the wife's Chris Ryan - can't remember what it was called, but the hero was called something like Dirk Slazenger or Rock Steel. Good gravy! Even worse that I dared to anticipate. The plot holes actually made it wryly amusing, but ultimately frustrating. Don't, just don't. If you like those sort of books can I suggest you will like Lee Childs' series about Reacher. Still popcorn, but much much better written popcorn.

Finally, ought to mention Mongol Rally - 3 weeks in the unknown, by FCCUK's own John Irving. It's not going to win the Booker prize - it is his first person jottings of his journey and reads exactly how it is, but sharing his passion for travelling and adventure I have thoroughly enjoyed his wing and a prayer account.


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Dice Man - Luke Rheinhart (George Cockcroft). A seminal work, that I probably would have enjoyed more had I got round to reading it when I was younger. As it is it felt like a big adult book for the Nuts generation. Unpleasant. For the first time ever I binned a book rather than allow someone else to read it.


I read Dice Man a few years ago and found it pretty disappointing. I would say it's simply a book whose time has past. The mood it tried to capture is gone.


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I'm off to find something completely new to try. Something a bit more grown-up, hopefully.


And what I eneded up with was Cat's cradle by Kurt Vonnegut, a book I've had hanging around on my shelf for a while, waiting to be read.

Up until a few years ago (when I read The sirens of Titan) all I would have been able to tell you about Vonnegut was that he was a science-fiction writer. It's certainly true that his books sometimes involve time-travel, or spaceships or advanced technology, but the focus of his books is always humanity and I've never read another author who is willing to take such a dark and subversive look at life.

Cat's Cradle is narrated in the first-person by an author, looking to write a book about what various people were doing on the day that the first atomic bomb was dropped. As part of his research he contacts the children of the late Nobel-laureate, Dr Felix Hoenikker, one of the fathers of the bomb. This drags him into the strange lives of the three children, the desperately poor Caribbean island of San Lorenzo, it's strange religion, Bokononism, and Dr Hoenikker's last gift to mankind - Ice nine, a crystal which makes water ice at room temperature ... all water.

This book sparkles all of the way through. From the sheer genius of Bokononism (the only religion to openly acknowledge that all of its great truths are lies), to the use of the Cat's Cradle as a metaphor, the utterly banal conversations that people have about huge topics and the the fun that is poked at nationalism, the relationship between government and religion and the arms race.

I really think that this is my favourite Vonnegut book so far, which is saying something, and I'd highly recommend it.


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Good review Andrew.I picked up Cats cradle and Galápagos while at the Hay book festival a few weeks ago. I have just finished Galápagos, a strange book indeed(I'll do a review later). Looking forward to Cats Cradle, which I will start tonight.



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Well I've been back on non-fiction recently, with Voodoo Histories: How conspiracy theory has shaped modern history by David Aaronovitch, a book which I felt didn't quite deliver all that it could have done. It does go through some of the most significant conspiracy theories of the past 120 or so years, and covers them in some detail, but it never quite engages.

It falls at the first hurdle by trying to go with a chronological structure, so it starts with the late 19th/early 20th century theories about Jewish cabals dominating the world, as laid down in The protocols of the elders of Zion. It was undoubtedly a huge conspiracy theory, and one which Aaronovitch has no problems debunking and it did, almost certainly, have a major effect on modern history. However, it's no longer a popular conspiracy theory and, thus, makes a pretty staid start to the book.

Aaronovitch moves on to the show-trials of Stalin's Russia, which attempted to pass off the pain of the USSR's rapid move from an agrarian economy to an industrial one as the work of an army of Trotskyist conspirators and saboteurs. While, again, this was undoubtedly of historical significance it's not that sexy a story any more. It also, bizarrely, seems to be more of a case of a conspiracy theory going right. The Soviet government did hoodwink its own people, and most of the Western world, into believing that Trotsky commanded a vast army of communists-turned-fascists, and it was only patient detective work by a few people who refused to swallow the government line that exposed the show trials for what they were.

From there the ground covered is more familiar - FDR's knowledge/planning of Pearl Harbor, the Kennedy assassination ... and so on, right through to the 9/11 truthers, the death of Dr David Kelly and the complete non-starter conspiracy theory of where Barack Obama was born. Although this ground is more familiar it's less obvious how the conspiracy theories, as distinct from the events themselves, changed modern history. Aaronovitch debunks with glee, but needs to put in a little more spadework to show what the bunk amounted to, other than a bit of unnecessary government spending on public inquiries.

This book is at its best when its looking at who starts conspiracy theories, who believes them (i.e. insignificant lay-persons who delight in having the intelligence to see the truth, unlike the stupid sheep around them) and how theorists pick apart tiny inconsistencies in plausible stories to show how they must indicate massively unlikely events. However, on a lot of other levels it fails. It's not a comprehensive list of modern conspiracy theories (no mention of the moon-landings, for example), nor is it a full debunking of every aspect of any one of the theories it does devote time to.

Falling between these stools it becomes a bit too deep for casual, light-hearted perusal, but not a full in-depth investigation of any one theory. It's not a bad book, but it is a struggle at times and, given the self-contained nature of the chapters, it might be best to just read up on the theories which intrigue you personally.


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Sounds interesting. I love conspiracy theorists, they are just great people to tie up in their own logic. The thing is, a lot of the time, their theories are actually based on something real, but they really don't like it when you present them with this truth. I find it intriguing how they so easily debunk real evidence and accept hearsay with gay abandon.

Anyway, this is quite interesting.

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To keep the thread on track, I'm currently reading "Mother Tongue" by Bill Bryson.

I've only ever read "Notes from a Small Island", and didn't find it as side-splittingly funny as was commented on the back cover, so my initial reaction was "Oh... him" when my girlfriend offered me the book.

However... this book is fascinating. If you're into etymology and the history of language, it's brilliant!

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I was never that struck by Mother Tongue, but if you like his serious stuff and language then Made in America is absolutely brilliant.


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Reading the Bone Hunter by Tom Holland at the moment. He uses bigger words than Sam Bourne, and hopefully knows how to produce a better and less predictable ending than I experienced reading 'The Last Testament'

These books don't really need much of a review. They are just staple 'Boys Own Adventures'. Easily read, easily forgotten. Though that is maybe a little bit unfair to The Bone Hunter.

Anyway I think Slavoj Zizek’s 'Living in the End Times' will be my holiday read, if/when I ever get around to booking somewhere.

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I was never that struck by Mother Tongue, but if you like his serious stuff and language then Made in America is absolutely brilliant.


As is The Adventure of English by Melvyn Bragg.

I'm still ploughing through the Millennium Trilogy. And I like it. There, I've said it.

I love the way all the protagonists are so Swedish. Everyone is in a love-triangle relationship or has sex with colleagues or is gay and it's completely cool and they have summer cabins in places with unpronounceable names.

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... return of the book review thread.

(Mods, feel free to merge into the last thread. If it still exists, and you can find it ... hang on, haven't we gone into the open credits of The A-Team here?)

Anyway, I digress.

More than quarter of a century ago my parents, being middle-class to the core, discovered gíte holidays in rural France. To a young lad, such as myself, these holidays had many downsides - being stuck in the middle of nowhere for 2 weeks, too young to drink wine, surrounded by non-English speakers, no amusement parks, etc.

One of these downsides was the 2 day drive from North-East England to central France, trapped in the car with my younger brother and my parents (who both smoked).

For one such journey (in, I presume, 1984) I was instructed to buy a book to read in the car. My memory is of making a selection from a low shelf in a shop that wasn't really a book shop, perhaps a newsagents or a motorway service station. The selected book was not one I'd heard of and was written by an author whose name was entirely unfamiliar to me, so it must have been a near random choice - although, as it turned out, one which probably influenced my life to a greater degree than any other book I've ever bought.

When it comes to my favourite books I enjoy them, but I don't really connect with them on an emotional level. I am not Winston Smith, tortured physically, emotionally and intellectually into accepting the repressive state, and I am not Yossarian, whose madness is the only rational response to the insanity that surrounds him, but the book I bought back in 1984 was The Secret Diary of Adrian Mole, aged 13 3/4 by Sue Townsend - and there was a protagonist I could relate to. I was 12.

In the 27 years since then I have grown up with 'Moley'. The first books were daring - discussing topics that I couldn't talk about with my parents; sex and sexuality, a teenager's need to be an individual, but also be accepted by their peers, the creative (as opposed to the procreative) urge. The later books have always, in some way, reflected my life. The last book ([Adrian Mole and the Weapons of Mass Destruction) I hated, possibly because some it was too close and too cutting.

Anyway, on with the review - yesterday I bought the latest book in the series, Adrian Mole - The prostate years. I bought it, I claim, only because it was the only other book in Waterstones' "3 for 2" offer that I was interested in (having already picked up Any Human Heart by William Boyd and Why does E=MC^2 by Brian Cox).

At the end of weapons of... we left Adrian bankrupt and living with his parents, as they converted the piggery they'd bought into housing, but emotionally settled with the sister of his ex-fiancée, Daisy.

...Prostate years picks up five years later, with Adrian facing as many worries as ever. His wife no longer loves him and he may be cuckolded, his daughter is unmanageable, his parents are ageing, his employment is coming to an end, his eldest son (from a teenage tryst) is serving in Afghanistan, he still yearns for his first sweetheart, Pandora, and, on top of all of this, he's battling prostate cancer. He's the same age as I am now.

There are a lot of thing I didn't like about this book; I don't think that Townsend adding, with the benefit of hindsight, Adrian's comments showing amazing lack of foresight is particularly funny/clever, the letters penned to famous people should have gone out of the window 3 or 4 books ago, some of the characters and situations ring far from true and there are a number of continuity errors, but...

... the truth is I've hardly read a thing for 6 months, but here I am posting the review of a 400+ page book the day after I bought it. I've really enjoyed this book, and it's left many loose ends to tie up. I've never laughed at the Mole books, but I have found this one far more wryly amusing than any of the others. It's well plotted, although it develops, rather than concludes a number of storylines. I suppose that in the history of one character that is inevitable. I think that I just want some things to be finally sorted, perhaps in the hope that a happy ending for Adrian means a lot to many 40ish people like myself.

I'm moving straight onto Boyd's Any human heart (also about a diarist and frustrated novelist with many loves, funnily enough), but I think this Mole book will stick with me for a while. As with earlier Harry Potter reviews I suppose that if you haven't read the books so far you won't start here, but if you've never missed one then you won't make an exception based on this review. However, I have to say, Ms. Townsend, why did you bring Brett back? He wasn't missed when he vanished from the story 20 years ago, and his re-insertion here was gauche and unnecessary.


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Wow, more Mole! I'm off to buy it now! I'm reading "the night shift" by Stephen King, excellent short stories, one of those addictive books you read perhaps more than you should per night because you're enjoying it.



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I read the original Mole when it came out, and found it amusing. However as a right winger I found Susan Townsend@s constant left wing bias tiring ( I was about 20 at the time, perhaps on a revisit I may be a bit more open minded, though I doubt it).

I've been reading some Stephen Leather, I find his novels well constructed, with his characters well developed and likeable even when "baddies", though he never makes them deserving of unqualified sympathy. His novels are full of action, without his heroes being able to achieve superhuman feats, or being without their own character faults. I won't attempt to write a review, but I would recommend his books (having not read all of them). Hungry Ghost, Solitary Man and Tango One are all good reads (particularly Hungry Ghost).

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Merged, Andrew.

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Any Human Heart in its version for the small screen I thought was a tour de force with breathtaking performances from the cast. One couldn't not give a special mention to Jim Broadbent who hardly needed to utter a word to convey his thoughts. The screenplay was done and kept tabs on by William Boyd himself, something I would liken to a composer rearranging one of their orchestral works for piano 4-hands rather than a third party doing it later on.
So good luck with the book Andrew.

As Jim says the opening chapters of The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo, the first of the Millenium Trilogy by Stieg Larsson, are heavy-going but as the story unfolds there is a gradual release of uncanny magnetism which makes it almost impossible to put to one side. I have now completed the second book, The Girl who Played with Fire, that oddly enough had a slow patch toward the middle. With the benefit of hindsight I would describe it as the calm before the storm, that is the final volume, The Girl who Kicked the Hornets' Nest that starts off with a bang and just keeps running. Gripping stuff.
Major issues are about violence toward women backed by statistics collected particularly in Sweden, government conspiracy, computer-hacking and a gentle extended learn-all-about-Sweden/Stockholm geography lesson. All wrapped up in two main characters one of whom is a made-acceptable philanderer with oddly cosy relationships and the other.....The Girl!
There is an interesting article about Larsson and his life-time partner here click
that explains their decision not to get married was to do with the need to keep identity and address as private as possible for fear of reprisals from factions upset by his in-depth sleuthing.
As Proccy is reading this atm I will divulge no more, but have no hesitation in recommending this cracking set.


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For those that can't be arsed to read, I'd recommend audiobooks from Audible.co.uk. For 15 quid a month, you can download 2 books. And you can end it when you like.

I've been through the Millenium Triology (above) which is fun (and read by a Swede so you can get the names pronounced properly wink )

I'm currently listening to What I Talk About When I Talk About Running which is different and interesting.

Listened to The Fry Chronicles which is read by Fry himself and is good (voted Audiobook of the Year)

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Ok MRS can you do a phonetic for Blomkvist [a main character in TGWTDT] for me? I keep getting my beard in knots attempting to say it.


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Originally Posted By: Edinburgh
Any Human Heart in its version for the small screen I thought was a tour de force with breathtaking performances from the cast. One couldn't not give a special mention to Jim Broadbent who hardly needed to utter a word to convey his thoughts. The screenplay was done and kept tabs on by William Boyd himself, something I would liken to a composer rearranging one of their orchestral works for piano 4-hands rather than a third party doing it later on.
So good luck with the book Andrew.

As Jim says the opening chapters of The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo, the first of the Millenium Trilogy by Stieg Larsson, are heavy-going but as the story unfolds there is a gradual release of uncanny magnetism which makes it almost impossible to put to one side. I have now completed the second book, The Girl who Played with Fire, that oddly enough had a slow patch toward the middle. With the benefit of hindsight I would describe it as the calm before the storm, that is the final volume, The Girl who Kicked the Hornets' Nest that starts off with a bang and just keeps running. Gripping stuff.
Major issues are about violence toward women backed by statistics collected particularly in Sweden, government conspiracy, computer-hacking and a gentle extended learn-all-about-Sweden/Stockholm geography lesson. All wrapped up in two main characters one of whom is a made-acceptable philanderer with oddly cosy relationships and the other.....The Girl!
There is an interesting article about Larsson and his life-time partner here click
that explains their decision not to get married was to do with the need to keep identity and address as private as possible for fear of reprisals from factions upset by his in-depth sleuthing.
As Proccy is reading this atm I will divulge no more, but have no hesitation in recommending this cracking set.


good write up Edinburgh - i'm in the middle of volume 2 now so keep schtum please laugh

ps i'm not a slow reader, just get limited time rolleyes

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Ok MRS can you do a phonetic for Blomkvist [a main character in TGWTDT] for me? I keep getting my beard in knots attempting to say it.


Bloom quist

(said in a Swedish-style accent)

How people cope with the street names, I have no idea - they sound very complicated wink

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Any Human Heart in its version for the small screen I thought was a tour de force with breathtaking performances from the cast. One couldn't not give a special mention to Jim Broadbent who hardly needed to utter a word to convey his thoughts. The screenplay was done and kept tabs on by William Boyd himself, something I would liken to a composer rearranging one of their orchestral works for piano 4-hands rather than a third party doing it later on.
So good luck with the book Andrew.


Having a quiet night in reading it now (helped by a rather nice rioja).

I nearly didn't watch past the first part of the TV programme, because I found the whole thing too familiar. It seemed to have echoes of too many other things I'd seen or read. I only watched the 2nd part because there was nothing else on, although I'm very glad I did as it represented a real turning point in the story. Once Logan stopped flouncing around Europe, meeting real life famous people and the programme became his story it was far more moving and interesting.

So far the book's going well, although he hasn't even reached Oxford yet (which ISTR is where the TV programme started).


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he hasn't even reached Oxford yet (which ISTR is where the TV programme started).


Quite right, and if it wasn't for Mrs Ed's better judgement against my grudging "oh I don't really fancy watching this, committing myself to four parts" I would have missed it too.


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I am an avid Boyd fan, so I read Any Human Heart when it came out. I can't now remember anything about it (for those who know me, apologies for this unnecessary point), except that I enjoyed it more than The Blue Afternoon and less than Armadillo.

I finished the Larsson trilogy with the feeling that if there was a fourth book I wouldn't buy it. I loved reading it, but enough is enough.

Adrian Mole never got me at all. Or possibly the other way around, but in recent years I've sort of wished that I did like it.

I recently read Deadheads by Reginald Hill. I can't avoid reading anything by him, especially the Dalziel and Pascoe novels. For anyone who has had the misfortune of seeing the TV version, please strike it from your mind and read one of the books. The word travesty springs to mind (and not in the French sense).

Before that I was trying to read an autobiography of Salman Ahmad, called Rock n Roll Jihad. Ahmad is a Pakistani rockstar of Bono-like fame across the subcontinent (30 million album sales) and recently he worked on a record in aid of the Pakistan flood victims with Peter Gabriel (called Open Your Eyes, it is as squirm-inducing as most charity records). Unfortunately I haven't completely got to grips with the book, so I've moved on via a reasonably interesting Brighton-set police thriller by Peter James (there's a series about copper Roy Grace) to A Habit of Dying, by David J Wiseman. This is a novel that combines a murder mystery with family history research. I think it's more likely to appeal generally to my parents' generation - both my folks are mad-keen amateur genealogists, but I'm enjoying it so far. I should add that the author is my Father-in-Law, so I might not be entirely unbiased in my assessment of it.

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Ok MRS can you do a phonetic for Blomkvist [a main character in TGWTDT] for me? I keep getting my beard in knots attempting to say it.


Bloom quist

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Better late than.......... ta for that, so the V is a W, the opposite of German.


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Better late than.......... ta for that, so the V is a W, the opposite of German.


Yup - I had Danish au pairs when I was a teenager (where am I going with this...... ah yes)

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I had Danish au pairs when I was a teenager


Is this a sort of pastry?


Just to keep this on topic, the third vol. of the Millenium Trilogy, The Girl who Kicked the Hornet's Nest is still going strong at p.450 [only another 300 to go] without letting up. New characters appear all of a sudden to add to the intricacy and are described in such detail, almost laboriously that it's difficult not to be left with an indelible impression of each - more than I can say for the constant referrals to street names and districts which go in one ear and out of t'other.

I don't think I would kill for yet another of these stories even though there is rumour of one. Finishing these three is easily encroaching into my OCD area.


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Here we are again and, as promised, I moved from Adrian Mole to Any Human Heart by William Boyd.

This book tells story of life of Logan Mountstuart through his sporadic journals, which document his personal journey through the 20th century.

Logan has a successful early life, moving from public school to Oxford university, the heir to a fortune left by his father. He is a published author and married to an earl's daughter by the time he is in his mid-20s. Stiffled by the sedate Norfolk life of the landed gentry he begins an affair with a BBC producer, Freya, eventually marrying her after a messy divorce.

During the war he is assigned to keep an eye on the Duke of Windsor (the title given to Edward VIII after his abdication) in the Bahamas, but after refusing to co-operate in framing an innocent man for murder he is given a new assignment in Switzerland trying to catch high-ranking Nazis trying to flee to South America. In Switzerland he is captured, treated as a spy and kept in solitary confignment for two years.

Emerging at the end of the war he discovers that his beloved Freya had thought him dead and re-married and then later been killed by a V-2 bomb.

After a long period of mourning he emerges as an art dealer in New York, working for his school-friend, Ben Leeping. He is forced to leave New York in a hurry after beginning a sexual relationship with a girl who turns out to be 16 (thereby making him guilty of statutory rape).

Taking up a teaching post in Nigeria he reports on the Biafran war, before being forced to retire and returning to his basement flat in London and a life of poverty (his family fortune having been lost in the 1929 stock market crash). To make ends meet he becomes a newspaper seller for a small anti-fascist group, who turn out to be a Baader-Meinhof cell. After nearly being implicated in a plot to smuggle explosives into England Logan retires to a run-down property in rural France, bequeathed to him by an old acquaintance, to see out his days writing his great unpublished novel, Octet.

There journals have been edited by an unnamed compiler, who helpfully adds historical and biographical information and ties off a few (although not many) storylines.

I read this book because I'd enjoyed the Channel 4 adaptation and the novel adds a great deal of depth. Logan meets a number of famous writers and artists during the course of his life and the book makes these relationships seem more real, rather than just randomly inserted pop(?) culture references.

The reader is left with a dazzling picture of a human life, the saddness of an old man who has lost almost everything (his one true love killed, his fortune lost, predeceased by both of his children and his two life-long friends), but who continues to cling to the memory of the years of happiness he had. The journals unflinchingly portray a man who is far from perfect and their candor draws you in and makes you care deeply for Logan.

I'll be seeking out some more of Boyd's novels, as he's clearly an author of skill and intelligence who manages to bring the whole of 20th century history down to the size of one man. Recommended without reservation.


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Excellent review, Andrew. I love William Boyd and have read all his fiction (I think!). Some I've enjoyed more than others but overall I'd have to say he's one of my very favourite authors. If you haven't read Brazzaville Beach, I'd recommend it most highly.

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It just so happens I've got to surf over to Amazon this weekend to buy a 40th birthday present for a friend, so it may be that a couple more Boyd books slip into my shopping basket.

Hmmm, I see there's a Jonathan Coe book I don't have as well. This could be an expensive present.


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Yes, good stuff, and reassuring to hear that you have no gripes about the transition from script to screen.


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Slight change of tack here: has anyone read The Great Right Hope by Mark Jackman?
The premise looks like it could be really funny or really dreadful.

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Sounds awful - even getting through the description was wearing.


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I've just finished Agent Zigzag by Ben McIntyre. It's the true story of the most extraordinary double agent of World War Two. Eddie Chapman is a conman and thief from the Northeast, who becomes an early adopter of gelignite and uses his new-found wealth to mix with the glamorous side of the late 1930's London underworld. For various reasons he ends up in prison in Jersey, which in turn is invaded by the Nazis. With nothing to lose (certainly not any loyalty to Britain), he volunteers to spy for Germany. Or does he?
Quite astonishing tale of cross and double cross (or XX as it's known in Intelligence circles), written with access to National Archive information specially released and some secret documents revealed just for the author. Chapman is a hugely flawed scoundrel with no moral compass, and yet compelling.
Thoroughly recommended as a ripping yarn, what? Standard!

I've now moved on to Overdrive, by Clyde Brolin. This is a collection of interviews with (mainly) Formula 1 drivers, about their experiences of being in "the zone", the prime example of which was Ayrton Senna's qualifying performance at Monaco in 1988. Seems a fairly interesting collection of anecdotes so far...

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Since I last posted here I've mainly been reading Why does E=mc^2 (and why should we care) by Brian Cox and Jeff Forshaw.

Einstein's equation E=mc^2 is probably the most famous one in all of science, known to educated people the world over. Most of us can even expand it out to explain that E is energy, m is mass and c is the speed of light, but this book takes on the task of getting the reader to understand where this equation came from and how Einstein came up with it.

The book, like Einstein, starts with Galileo's theory of relativity, which says that if you are in constant motion (i.e. not accelerating or decelerating) there is no way to tell if you are moving or at rest without reference to an external point and, even then, you can not say whether you are moving and the external point is stationary or vice-versa. Einstein was also trying to explain the results of the Michelson-Morely experiment, which showed that all observers measure the same speed of light, irrespective of their movement in space.

Initially this book sets off on a well-worn popular science path of explaining the thought experiments that Einstein devised, using light clocks on moving trains to reach the conclusion that time is not universal and depends upon the subject's movement in space.

From this kicking off point, which is presented more as a reminder than a serious attempt to teach the reader something new, it heads off into explaining how this discovery led Einstein to formulate the idea of 4 dimensional space-time, where although different observers may measure different distances and timings for events they will all agree on an invariant amount of movement through space-time. From here the first half of the book takes the reader through each of the steps required to derive the equation which has become short-hand for 'science', E=mc^2.

The book then dots around a little - it explores the implications of this equation, it looks at quantum theory and the General Theory of Relativity, which explains gravity and how it warps space-time.

Right off the bat I should say that this book is a hard read. I can whiz through something like A Brief History of Time without any problems, but with this I had to keep going back, re-reading paragraphs and, on occasion, skip back whole chapters to remind myself what had gone before. The maths isn't particularly difficult of itself, but keeping up with what it's describing can be tricky. Ultimately it's worth it, though, because my the end of the book even the lay-reader, such as myself (I got a B in 'O' level physics nearly quarter of a century ago) can feel that they've followed in Einstein's footsteps and can really understand not only the meaning, but also the implications of E=mc^2.

If I had to pick fault I'd say that the book glosses over a couple of assumptions, while I'm sure they're well understood by physicists it did feel like the book could have done with a few hundred extra words to explain an assumption. As an example, it would be nice to understand why Einstein thought that there must be an invariant distance in space-time. In a couple of places the authors also suggest that you skip over the maths if you're not comfortable with it, which I'd say is bad advice - this is very much a book where you have to read and understand everything if you're to keep up in later chapters.

On the whole, however, this is an excellent book for anybody who wants something a bit more challenging than the usual popular science version of relativity and who is willing to put in the time to follow the logic. It's not a book that everybody will love, but I know it's going to be one that I read and re-read, even if only to understand the chapter on bloody Fenyman diagrams smile


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Just finished A Day and A Night and A Day by Glen Duncan. He is quickly becoming my favourite author. This relatively short tale features one-eyed, mixed race American Augustus Rose and his extraordinary and deeply uncomfortable story, with a fascinating supporting cast. The astonishing hurricane of events mingles with (for me at least) some pretty fundamental philosophical questions, none of which are exactly comforting. The inclusion of a further sub-plot involving a waif on a Scottish Island seems almost irrelevant, but nonetheless adds to the repeated shocks that totally submerged me in this book.
I absolutely loved it.

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Pride and Prejudice and Zombies: Jane Austen and Seth Grahame-Smith.

Ninjas are also present... The original text - as far as I can tell - has been elided with references to the 'unmentionable' walking undead plaguing the country. On the whole he gets away with it, but the joke is perhaps wearing a bit thin towards the end; I couldn't help feeling that there should be more subtext, more plot, on the zombie front. Instead, most of the plot just follows that of the original and doesn't really rely on the zombies; they're just *there*, a passing hazard who might eat your entire kitchen staff, or, confused, a field-full of cauliflowers.

I'm undecided about the continuity errors: skunks and chipmunks in a Hertfordshire forest, and muskets which can be used repeatedly while somersaulting off the back of a horse - I wonder if that's just an American author rather than something a bit deeper - but they don't slow it down.

Nonetheless, an amusing afternoon or two, though perhaps better on a beach than in Hemel.


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Nothing too high brow, but i have just finished reading Ozzy Osbourne's latest biography, and it is hilarious!

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Obviously it's been a quiet couple of months in the literary world. Certainly I've been lazily re-reading old favourites rather than trying anything new.

I kicked myself out of that rut last week by going to Waterstones and asking the staff about a book which, "... I read about on the BBC News site yesterday. It's just been shortlisted for an award, but I can't remember which one. The title is two words with a comma between them and part of the plot is set in the 30s".

All hail Waterstones' staff, because on their very first guess they named Boxer, Beetle by Ned Beauman.

Kevin Broom's life isn't brilliant, he has a genetic disorder which makes him permanently stink of rotten fish, he lives in an ex-council flat about a fried chicken take-away which only attracts customers because the chef is selling dope and he has no friends saving those he's met through on-line forums for his hobby, collecting Nazi memorabilia.

Things don’t improve for him a great deal when he’s kidnapped by a Welsh assassin who has murdered his employer and who appears to work for the Thule society, the occult wing of the Nazi movement, long since thought defunct.

As Kevin tries to escape, alert the authorities or at least find out what his captor is looking for there’s a parallel plot running in the 1930s where Philip Erskine, an aristocratic fascist with an interest in eugenics, finds his life entangled with that of Seth ‘Sinner’ Roach, a talented but obnoxious and self destructive 9-toed Jewish boxer from the East End.

The plot is as daft as the cast list, with twists to take in artificial languages, swastika marked beetles, much homosexual coitus interruptus and bad town planning. All in it’s a very good first novel; page-turning, amusing (occasionally laugh-out-loud funny), well researched and intelligent. It’s not perfect, the modern day framing story is a bit lightweight and not closely enough tied to the 1930s tale (this is certainly no Cryptonomicon), but it’s more than enough to make me look out for Beauman’s next novel.


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Bit of a strange one for the book review thread now, a book with no story (indeed very few words for its size) - Information is beautiful by David McCandless.

This is really more of a coffee-table book and uses innovative, clever and sometimes funny graphics to illustrate the world in which we live. From word clouds showing what the newspapers say causes cancer through Martini glasses that illustrate the distribution of worldwide wealth to diagrams showing the actors who trump Kevin Bacon in the six degrees of separation game all of human life is in this book.

It's an incredible read, even if you can't imagine that you'll enjoy what is, basically, 250 pages of graphs. My wife called me a sad nerd when I ordered it and then spent an hour reading it over my shoulder.

Amazon have the hard back version for a tenner (with free delivery) and, at that price, it's a steal.


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Just finished A week in December by Sebastian Faulks. Basically a cynical observation of a group of (slightly cliche) Londoners whose lives are all interconnected. Slow in places and the stories of a couple of characters can be quite boring at times - Faulks likes to research them to the nth degree - but overall a good read, and I enjoyed the last third in particular. One annoying point: as in Birdsong, one of the characters conducts a deep psychological self examination during a conversation with someone which I didn't find believable.

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I'm not normally a fan of sci-fi, but this week I've been reading a book recommended (and lent) to me by my boss, so I thought I'd best give it a go.

Hyperion by Dan Simmons is set around 900 years into the future. Mankind has colonised large parts of our spiral arm of the galaxy, thanks to faster-than-light spaceships and also 'farcasters', devices which warp space between them and allow instantaneous travel across vast distances.

Aside from mankind the explored universe appears to contain no intelligent species, but humankind does share their space with the Technocore - a collective of artificial intelligences, with its own agenda and god-like predictive powers - and the Ousters - humans who left civilisation centuries previously and have reverted to barbarism and adapted to life in micro-gravity.

There is also evidence of, now extinct, alien life. Nine colonised worlds, all tectonically inactive, which are riddled with huge passageways. Of these 9 the most mysterious is Hyperion, which is also home to the Time Tombs, structures which are protected by distortions in time and also by the legend of the Shrike, an unstoppable alien killer.

The Shrike has become the stuff of legends and the centre of a vast religion, with stories that those who make the pilgrimage to the Time Tombs will meet it and it will grant one of them a wish and kill the others.

The book opens as the Time Tombs themselves start to open and an Ouster fleet approaches Hyperion. The Church of the Shrike assembles 7 disparate characters to make the final pilgrimage to the tombs.

En route the characters tell their stories to see if they can understand why they are the ones who have been chosen.

In almost every way this book is a very long introduction to the next book in the series and serves only to explain the state of the galaxy in the future and to set up the plot strands to be followed by Fall of Hyperion.

That said, it's not a bad book. It's well-written and keeps you turning the pages and there's a well executed flip of perspective in the closing section. It's also quite playful in places, from the structure borrowed from The Canterbury Tales, to the frequent Keats references, but I didn't really find anything in it to make me think better of sci-fi. It certainly didn't open my eyes to what can be done with the genre in the same way as, say, Jeff Noon's Vurt. I'm getting the next book tomorrow, so tune in in a couple of days to see if I'll change my mind.


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You might prefer his two 'Troy' books: "Ilium" and "Olympus". Completely different, and I think much better books than the Shrike books.


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Well my boss reckons that Hyperion and Fall of Hyperion are really just scene-setters for the next two, which he says are the really good books, so I might keep on going and see how it works out.


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It's an incredible read, even if you can't imagine that you'll enjoy what is, basically, 250 pages of graphs. My wife called me a sad nerd when I ordered it and then spent an hour reading it over my shoulder.


Superb. My brother will love this - he's an ex SAS programmer turned Programme Manager for a big team of SAS geeks.

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"Starman - the truth behind the legend of Yuri Gagarin" by Jamie Doran and Piers Bizony.

A biography of the first man in space, and a history of the Russian space program, from interviews in 1998 with the people who were there.

If you have any interest in space exploration, or any feeling for modern history, you should read this. It's well written, though there's a feeling throughout of 'made for TV' which is perhaps to be expected, given that the authors make TV documentaries, and it avoids the usual cliches to give an excellent view of the man with all his faults and flaws.

I picked this up after hearing a lecture by one of the authors (intended to illustrate the collection of original photographs currently on display at the Albert Hall; obviously he covered the material in the book, but the book is much more detailed than he could cover in an hour.

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My latest read is a bit of an odd one. As you might have noticed, I'm a big fan of Glen Duncan, author of I, Lucifer, Weathercock and A Day and a Night and a Day amongst other favourites, so I was pleased to see he'd published another book.
However, as its title suggests, it's a move into the realms of horror/fantasy - a genre I have avoided since devouring the Anne Rice Vampire Chronicles as a much younger (and almost certainly camper) man. So, I approached The Last Werewolf with some trepidation.
It essentially does what it says on the tin: it is the chronicle of Jacob Marlowe, who has been suffering with The Curse for almost two hundred years. Discovering that his lupine brethren have been hunted to extinction apart from him, Jake has decided he's had enough too and won't fight the shadowy self-appointed organisation that deals with his kind (and vampires - "boochies" - too).
Clearly, there's a bit more to it and once again, amongst the gore, Duncan uses Marlowe to philosophise about the meaning of life or otherwise and writes with his customary wit, humour and impressive knowledge.
As a fan of the author and of a good tale littered with blood, guts, sex (and sometimes all three), I thoroughly enjoyed it, in spite of a few convenient plot devices (we're talking about werewolves here, a little tinkering with coincidence is hardly an issue!).
Definitely recommended.

After a pause to get my breath back (and rinse the lycanthropic characters out of my mind) I've now just started The Snowman, by Jo Nesbo. It seems that Scandinavia is the new police/thriller Mecca, so I'm starting with this one on the recommendation of my Step-Mother-in-Law. Is that a term?

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I absolutely loved A Day and a Night and a Day. I thought it was an even more gritty and honest insight into the human condition than Any Human Heart.

Currently reading The Junior Officers' Reading Club by Patrick Hennessey. A very honest and quite moving insight into life as an officer in the British Army through the Iraq and Afghan conflicts. Surprisingly readable, too.

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Agreed, Jim, I was stunned by A Day and a Night and a Day. One of my all-time favourites, I think.

Might I suggest another recent read of mine (shameless plug ahoy)? A Better Basra, by Caroline Jaine. An account of mother-of-three Jaine's 100 days spent under fire in Iraq, whilst working for the Foreign Office as part of the British reconstruction effort in 2006.

Oh, alright, she's my wife, but it's still a rollicking good read. You can buy it on Amazon as well, but she only gets 40p...

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Hmm - may have to follow up on "A Day..." as I enjoyed I, Lucifer and Weathercock

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Obligatory warning: I'm something of a Neal Stephenson fan - in fact, I'd rate his Baroque series as one of the best written tales in the last twenty years.

REAMDE (yes, that's how it's spelt) tells, over a thousand pages and twenty days, of Zula, who has the poor taste in boyfriends that leads to her kidnapping by the Russian mafia in an attempt to decrypt a file being held to ransom by chinese virus writers operating through a massive online multi-player game.

Al Queda (or some reasonably facsimile thereof), the CIA, and MI6 are courtesy details. The story is without doubt a caper - think Jason Bourne - but it does hang together. Most of the characters are sensible and thoughtful without being supermen, and the plot doesn't hang on deliberate character stupidity - though some of the henchmen are less than brilliant.

All in all, a damn good thriller. Recommended.

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Well, I finished the Jo Nesbo; not that impressed. It almost felt like a parody of Girl With A Tattooed Hornet's Nest. Weak, clichéd characters, absurd, unsurvivable "action" sequences and ludicrous plot. Avoid.

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Oh blimey Jim, I could have told you that, I found Nesbo / Snowman terrible, as you say incredibly cliched and a daft story, however not being put off by one of her books, I tried another one. It was just as bad!!

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I'm currently half way through Locked In by Kerry Wilkinson. It's a police procedural and is the first of a trilogy featuring newly-promoted DS Jessica Daniel - based at a station in Manchester - and her attempts to catch a murderer who leaves his apparently unconnected victims in houses that are locked and have seemingly no forced entry.

It's ok, though lacks a bit of polish. There's something a little bit amateurish and tiresome about the lead character and the storytelling, though now it is getting into its stride, I'm enjoying it more.

I am fairly convinced that it is self-published and printed on demand - nothing wrong with that these days - the clue being in the slightly higher level of typos and mistakes than you would see in a professionally proof-read offering and a rather floppier cover. I could be a detective, me.

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Just finished A week in December by Sebastian Faulks. Basically a cynical observation of a group of (slightly cliche) Londoners whose lives are all interconnected. Slow in places and the stories of a couple of characters can be quite boring at times - Faulks likes to research them to the nth degree - but overall a good read, and I enjoyed the last third in particular. One annoying point: as in Birdsong, one of the characters conducts a deep psychological self examination during a conversation with someone which I didn't find believable.


I gave up on Birdsong and Sebastian Faulkes at the same time. Not often I give up on a book, but this did nothing for me at all. Slow and boring do spring to mind though.


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I gave up on Birdsong and Sebastian Faulkes at the same time. Not often I give up on a book, but this did nothing for me at all. Slow and boring do spring to mind though. [/quote]

Same for me.

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I really wanted to like it, but just couldn't engage with it.

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It took a bit of getting going, but worth the effort.

Now anything by Ian McEwan n the other hand.....utter turd. Why use one word when you can fill half a page...




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I agree with you on Ian McEwan.

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Hurray, I've read something for the first time in a while.

In fact I've read Snuff by Terry Pratchett.

Alarmingly next year is the 30th anniversary of the publication of the first Discworld book, The colour of magic, the novel that introduced us to a flat world carried through space on the shoulders of four mighty elephants who, in turn, stand atop a great turtle who swims through the endless void.

What started out as a fantasy series with a few jokes in, a sort of Douglas Adams meets Lord of the Rings, has become a complete world as its geography, politics and history have been mapped out over the course of (to date) 39 novels.

On the Discworld 8 is a magical numbers; there are 8 days in a week, 8 seasons in a year and 8 colours in their spectrum. It therefore seems fitting that the 8th Discworld book, Guards! Guards! should have introduced one of its most enduring heroes; Sam Vimes of the Ankh-Morpork city night watch.

Thirty-one books ago Vimes was the drunken and cynical captain of a night-watch which had dwindled to only 3 members, unemployable elsewhere in the city, until a new and eager recruit kindled his downtrodden pride and set him on the road to becoming the commander of a revitalised watch, a national hero, a Duke, a father and a blackboard monitor. Snuff sees him taking a holiday.

To be fair the rise of Vimes has made it increasingly hard to write novels about him. He commands a large and efficient police-force, which means that while he's in Ankh-Morpork at least it's hard to imagine him going toe-to-toe with many criminals. Hence we've seen him sent abroad (The Fifth Elephant), to war (Jingo!), down into Dwarven mines (Thud) and even back into his own past (Night Watch). In this novel he's out in the countryside, visiting his wife's ancestral home.

Naturally he finds crime there; a big crime hidden in plain view. Equally naturally he is drawn to investigate, despite being out of his jurisdiction and under his wife's watchful eye.

As a skewed police procedural this isn't a bad story, but it groans under the weight of supporting Sam Vimes. Too much of it revisits places that he's been in the past ... equal rights for a despised species, yup did that in Feet of Clay, class war, that would be Jingo, intelligent, cunning and deadly foe who Vimes understands a bit too well for his own comfort, sounds a lot like Carcer from Night Watch, etc.

Add to that the lack of any real peril (underlined by the lack of Death from the pages) or mystery in the story and you've got a rather disappointing outing for Discworld's favourite policeman. However, it's redeemed by a few good lines, including a brilliant closing line, and the warmth and feel-good factor that Pratchett always adds.

So, not a great addition to the cannon, but an OK read to pass a few hours. I bought another William Boyd book yesterday (Ordinary Thunderstorm), so I'll try to get that reviewed before Easter smile


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Hurray, I've read something for the first time in a while.


On the Discworld 8 is a magical numbers; there are 8 days in a week, 8 seasons in a year and 8 colours in their spectrum. It therefore seems fitting that the 8th Discworld book, Guards! Guards! should have introduced one of its most enduring heroes; Sam Vimes of the Ankh-Morpork city night watch.


Now you are just playing with me. I need to know -

What is it like to see this eighth colour?

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The 8th colour is octarine, the colour of magic, visible only to those who are sensitive to magic. It's generally described as a sort of greeny-purple.


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I read a lot and a lot of genres, from classics to modern and from vampires to tear jerkers, but by golly that all sounds a load of old drivel, thankfully I have never read any of them!!

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Andrew, I'm a fan of almost all Boyd's work and I really liked Ordinary Thunderstorms. As an expedition into the conventional thriller, I thought it was pretty good. Look forward to hearing what you think.

On the other hand, I stand shoulder to shoulder with JimO on Terry Pratchett.

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What is this? Jims Against Pratchett?

I've been reading the Discworld novels since near the start (I'd just read the 1st one when the 3rd one came out), so they tend to be a default Christmas/birthday present for me.

OK, none of them have been great literature, but Pratchett is an entertaining author and he has produced some great characters and a few really memorable stories.

He's not to everybody's taste, of course, but then no author is.


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Sorry, Andrew, I completely agree that literary taste is joyfully and proudly eclectic - I wasn't saying you shouldn't like Pratchett, just that I don't. As I mentioned earlier, for years I read every Anne Rice vampire and witch book - hardly likely to be remembered by future generations.
All literature has some merit.

Except Dan Brown, which is shit.

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Yes, it's good that we can *all* find some common ground and agree that Dan Brown is shit.


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Except Dan Brown, which is shit.


Just wanted to see that again.

Having read "Snuff" I'd agree with most of Andrew's criticisms; it's not one of Pterry's best. I kept thinking of 'Unseen Acedemicals' though, even though that's not a Vimes novel.

I wonder how much of this is down to the Alzheimer's? Is this the last Discworld book?


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The 8th colour is octarine, the colour of magic, visible only to those who are sensitive to magic. It's generally described as a sort of greeny-purple.


Portofino...??

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Jo Nesbo is OK holiday reading, nothing too demanding or hard work.(Having said that, holiday the other year was The Ragged Trousered Philanthropist)

Best book I read recently was called "The Last Hundred Days" by Patrick McGuinness, about a British bloke living under the last gasps of the Ceaucescu regime.

Apart from that recently, I have been clogging the Kindle up with various freebies, modern and classic - you feel an obligation to finish a book you have paid for, but no such feelings if they are gratis.




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Apart from that recently, I have been clogging the Kindle up with various freebies, modern and classic - you feel an obligation to finish a book you have paid for, but no such feelings if they are gratis.


Or to even start them IME smile Kindle, the one gadget I didn't need until I bought one.


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Last time I posted in this thread I was about to start reading Ordinary Thunderstorms, but I haven't yet for two important reasons:

1. Out of the blue my wife bought me a book because it looked like the sort of thing I might enjoy and shunning it may have been detrimental to bliss within my home.

2. Skyrim.

However, I did read the book my wife bought me, which was The Psychopath Test by Jon Ronson. From the cover and the blurb I was expecting some sort of Chuck Palahniuk type novel, but what I actually got was an entertaining, but non-fictional, exploration of the influence of madness on the world.

Ronson, who is both an author and a journalist, takes us on his personal exploration of madness in society, starting with his investigation into a mysterious and cryptic book mailed to a few dozen leading academics and moving on to the Citizens' Commission on Human Rights (the branch of the Church of Scientology which aims to discredit psychiatry and its practitioners, often seeking to have them struck off or convicted of criminal offences).

Through the CCHR he meets "Tony", one of the central figures in a book, a man who faked insanity in order to avoid a 7 year stretch for GBH and instead found himself locked in Broadmoor for 12 years, unable to convince the doctors that he was sane.

Ronson goes on to meet Bob Hare, the Canadian psychologist responsible for the clinical checklist used to identify psychopaths, attends Hare's course on the use of the checklist and, from there, goes on to meet a number of potential and diagnosed psychopaths, from Haitian death-squad leader Toto Constant to "Chainsaw" Al Dunlap (a mutli-millionaire and corporate golden boy of the 90s, mainly because he actively enjoyed firing people, often with a smile and a quip ... "Hey, I see you got a new sports car, but do you know what you don't have? A job!) through to ex-MI5 whistle-blower David Shayler, with his firm convictions that he is the new messiah and that not only was 9/11 an inside job, but that the government used missiles disgused as planes using secret hologram technology.

A lot of this book is wrly amusing, and there are quite a few laugh-out-loud moments, but it's also a disturbing book in many ways. It forces us to acknowledge that psychopathy is real, and that there are people out there who will kill without any regret or hesitation, not because they are evil, but because they have a recognised, but untreatable, medical problem. Maybe more worryingly the qualities that mark people as psychopathic also seem to be key to driving people to the top of the corporate world.

Most worrying of all though is that by the end of the book it's hard not to feel that the Scientologists of the CCHR are on to something. A lot of psychiatry does seem incredibly hit and miss; classifying and treating 'illnesses' which probably embrace the majority of humanity, a lack of any clinical rigour in diagnosing mental illness in a lot of cases and wielding the power to incarcerate somebody indefinitely based on a checklist that classifies multi-millionaire businessmen alongside people who will murder a family with a hammer.

Overall this is a cracking read and highly recommended for anybody who wants to lift the lid on a strange and largely hidden world. It's well written, balanced, fun and though-provoking. What more could you want from a book?


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I've been on the Glen Duncan again...

I recently read an interview with him in which he said that his foray into the world of Lycanthropy is a deliberate ploy to do something "more commercial". He's writing a werewolf trilogy, the first of which (The Last Werewolf) I reviewed here some months ago. Tallula Rising is the middle volume and is - predictably and slightly disappointingly - more of the same. It's still well-written, witty, quite rude and happy to tackle the big issues of life and messy, life's-not-fair death, but Duncan has set the bar pretty high and I wanted more. I shall, of course, buy the third book when it comes out, but only because I have high hopes for a return to form.

I think I dislike the cliché of the trilogy more than the uncomfortable bandwagon feel of the subject matter...

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Well let's blow the dust off this thread, eh? I haven't had much time recently to read (or to post here), but in the time I've had I've been reading Skagboys by Irvine Welsh. This is the prequel to his seminal 1993 novel, Trainspotting, and follows Rents, Sick boy, Spud, Begbie and others through the 80s and into adulthood.

The problem that both Skagboys and the Trainspotting sequel, Porno have is that Trainspotting isn't really a novel, more a collection of loosely interconnected short stories and novellas and, unfortunately, that's the medium that Welsh works best in. I personally have found that he struggles to extend his writing style to a full-length novel, with the exception of Marabou Stork Nightmares and, like all prequels, Skagboys suffers from the reader knowing exactly where the characters are going to end up.

I also feel that for a 500-page novel this book doesn't actually transport the characters very far. From the first page Renton is intellectual, but disillusioned by society, Sick boy is a sexual predator, Begbie is a psycho, etc., the only thing that's missing is their heroin addiction, which is quickly added to the mix.

To Welsh's credit he doesn't take the well-worn 80s retrospective route and have Thatcher all but directly plunge the opiate needle into the boys' arms. Instead, with the possible exception of Spud, the lads enter the world of hard drugs with their eyes wide open, willingly seeking out the buzz of a drug reportedly so good that one fix is enough to get you hooked.

There are also some remarkably good set-pieces in the book, from the laugh our loud funny to the deeply disturbing and saddening. The book also jumps between several different first-person narrators and third person narration, which keeps you on your toes - for a couple of chapters you're two or three pages in before you have enough clues to work out whose voice is speaking to you. Between chapters there are sprinklings of "Notes on an epidemic", which detail the arrival and spread of AIDS in Scotland. These notes, briskly factual, perhaps do the most to condemn the government of the time, by highlighting how little was done to control the spread of AIDS and how it was actively worsened by activities such as closing needle-exchange programmes. Strangely these notes also provide one of the most poignant moments in the novel.

So, the story sort of meanders without going anywhere, but the same could be said of Trainspotting - both books are perhaps more about the journey than the destination, and enjoyable enough for it.

Perhaps my biggest gripe about this book is that in a throw-away line in Trainspotting Renton mentions Tommy and Begbie going toe-to-toe, with Begbie coming out better, but it being a close thing. Nothing else is ever mentioned about this fight and I was hoping that this book would fill in the blanks, but sadly it never touches on this incident.

On the whole this isn't a bad book, not in the same league as Trainspotting, but then few books are.


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So, the story sort of meanders without going anywhere, ...


I've just read this and thought the same, although I felt compelled to read to the end to see if anything happened.

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In retrospect I think this should have been more Keezbo's book. As he never appears in Trainspotting, and only gets a quick mention in a conversation between Tommy and Mark, so all we know about him, pre-Skagboys, is that he's been in prison for quite a while and that Renton has never visited him, nor is ever likely to do so.

If this book has a point, however, it's what heroin does to Keezbo and how it lands him inside. The final chapter and the final notes would have meant a lot more if more of the book had been devoted to him.


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And I've been reading again.

On page 5 of this thread I wrote a review of Boxer, Beetle, the first novel by Ned Beauman, and ended that review saying I was looking forward to his 2nd novel.

Well, this week I've read, The Teleportation Accident by Ned Beauman.

The book tracks theatrical set desginer, Egon Loeser, from the social whirl of 1931 Berlin, where he's suffering from a 3 week sex-drought, over the next 10 years of his life and maps the 3 obsessions that dominate his world. The first is with 17th century Venetian artificer Adriano Lavicini, inventor of a mechanical device to teleport actors from one side of a stage to the other, which self destructed on its début, destroying the Theatre des Encornets and killing it's creator, 29 members of the audience and a ballerina (whereas Loeser's own attempt at such a machine merely dislocates both arms of his test subject).

The second is with a girl he used to tutor, Adele Hitler (no relation), who has blossomed into the lust of his life and who is, sadly, willing to sleep with everybody in Berlin, from great composers to stage-hands and waiters, other than Loeser.

And the final is the French picture-book, Midnight in the nursing academy, his only consolation in a decade of unwilling celibacy, as he pursues Adele from Berlin to Paris and on to Los Angeles.

As with Boxer, Beetle a simple plot description doesn't do justice to this novel, which has a brilliantly witty plot and an incredible array of supporting characters (my personal favourite being Colonel Gorge, a bluff car-polish magnate, who suffers from a condition which renders him unable to distinguish between photographs and reality).

This is a brilliant book and well worth reading, Beauman has improved on his first (very impressive) novel and I now eagerly await his 3rd outing.


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I've just finished The Impossible Dead by Ian Rankin.
I don't seem to be able to stay away from authors I like, even when I know that they are pretty much flogging a very poorly steed.
Post-Rebus, Rankin has moved on to another "outsider" aspect of the police, in the shape of "The Complaints" - the cops that investigate other cops and are roundly disliked by everyone. That the main character is also rather unlikeable is a positive for the book, as it would be a bit incongruous to have a really nice guy being held as a pariah.
The story delves into past extremist Scottish nationalism and current ambition, wrapped in the guise of a complaint of sexual abuse against a detective.
It all works ok and will help you through the train/airport/flight, but I think I'd rather have read Andrew's choice above!

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This week I have mainly been reading John dies at the end by Jason Pargin (writing as David Wong)

On a quiet night in a 2nd rate Chinese restaurant in [Undisclosed] David Wong tells a journalist how he and his friend, John, became involved in the world of the paranormal via a mysterious liquid, known as Soy Sauce, which gives its users short-term supernatural powers and permanently makes them a window (or a door) into another dimension.

The story is split into three novellas; David and John's first exposure to soy sauce and their foiling of a plot to open a gateway to hell in Las Vagas; their involvement with Korrok, an evil demon who has possessed the sports presenter on the local news channel; and, finally, their investigation of the disappearance of Amy 'Sea Cucumber' Sullivan, the younger sister of one of their friends who died in Vegas.

This is a horror story, but it's a very, very funny one. There are snappy one-liners, wonderful mental images - such as David and John fighting evil armed with a ghetto blaster loaded up with heavy metal classics and a bible taped to a baseball bat - and running jokes, such as Korrok, for all of his power, acting much like a teenage boy (for weeks he changes the lyrics to all of the songs that David listens to into personal insults and racial slurs). I found myself genuinely laughing out loud time and time again, and the breakneck pace of the writing makes this a book that's hard to put down.

Where Pargin has really succeeded though is in the final section, where he ties together pretty much everything that's happened and shows that although, at times, the proceedings have seemed crazy and off-the-cuff, there is a unifying story behind it all and everything makes as much sense as it has to. Naturally enough loose ends are left for a sequel and said sequel, This book is full of spiders, is due out next month ... I can hardly wait.


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Crap, I'm going to have to rob a bank to buy all these books that are being recommended. Although maybe taking a leaf out of e-commerce's book, I should just cut out the middle man and rob Amazon.
Also, I will need to stretch time significantly if I'm going to read more than one book every six months, given the 90 minutes I currently have between finishing housework and going to sleep exhausted.

I know this place has answers to most things, so can anyone recommend somewhere I can get free money (or books) and a time machine?

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finishing housework


Jim, I'm confused (not for the first time, I know). I thought you were married?


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I am married, Derek, which seemingly involves some kind of equality clause in the small print...

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If it helps, Jim, the first 15 pages of the sequel are available free on-line*. So that would be a bit like reading the book, it's free and there's only 15 pages, so it won't take very long.

There you go, all of your problems solved in one easy step.

* Note to mods - this is a link to the author's official web-site, not some dodgy copyright violating site, so it's all legit and above board.
* Note to everybody else, contains some strong language.


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So, here we are again...!

My latest read is The Subtle Thief of Youth, by D J Wiseman
It's a mystery, set in modern day rural Oxfordshire, and deals with the aftermath of a freak storm that lashes two adjoining villages, finally exposing a dreadful secret, festering beneath the idyllic shires' setting.
The writing captures the breathless heat, humidity and claustrophobia that surround the unfolding events as the characters are forced to revisit their pasts and contemplate the future in the light of another, potentially similar incident.

I really enjoyed the slow building of the tension and partial unravelling of the protagonists and I didn't see the end coming as it did, but then I never do...

I heartily recommend it...

>Ahem< Declaration of interest: 1) DJ Wiseman is my father-in-law, 2) Askance publishing is MrsC's venture and 3) I helped proof-read the book.

Not one of these factors detract from The Subtle Thief of Youth, it's a cracking book!

Please buy a copy here in any format you fancy and feel free to criticise any mistakes you can spot!


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In fact, if you want to try before you buy,

Here is the first chapter - free, gratis and for nothing!

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Nice to see this thread over here. I'm a "slow reader", but here's my two cents' contribution about the last books I read. Not new ones, I'm afraid.

My last book was Nineteen Eighty-Four, by George Orwell. It was in my "to read" list a long time ago, obviously. I wasn't disappointed. First, I enjoyed the sense of austereness it conveyed, as a contrast to the overload of everything, nowadays. Don't get me wrong. That was, of course, imposed by the Big Brother, and that's not nice at all. A totalitarian regime ruled by some intriguing and disturbing concepts of society control. For a book written decades ago, I found remakable similarities to some current national regimes, namely North Korea. Scarry. Anyway, I also found it inevitable to think about western countries' ways of controling people more and more. Right?

So, in such a closed society of "The Party", another interesting fact I found was the human instinct arising in the midst of the system. The feeling of resilience. I mean, the self-reflexion of Winston Smith, about "what is this", "is this the Truth" or "is there a different reality" and the impulse to change something. Not to say the mixed-feelings of Smith regarding everyone around him, namely Julia. And then, the climax between both, always in a tense scennery, I believe. Exciting.

All in all, I found it a very compelling book. It was almost certain that Winston would be caught. But the resistance that he put up throughout his imprisonment... Amazing. Broken by the system, but still with a life to live. Haven't we all? Good book.

Afterwards, I put some faces in the characters by watching the movie, "1984", with John Hurt. Also a stark contrast to current cinema. Recommended.

I am now reading another "old" book: Satanic Verses, by Salman Rushdie. Coincidently, he's now publishing a book about the years he lived hiding and fearing for his life, after the release of Satanic Verses.

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And it's back!

As I had a couple of days with man-flu and a few hours in an airport/plane, I managed to sneak in some reading. The first subject I went for was Back Story, David Michell's autobiography (or memoir as he calls it). It is exactly what I expected from David Mitchell - witty and well-written, but without any surprises of note except that he has been plagued by back pain all his adult life, the only successful treatment for which has proven to be walking everywhere. I came away with my image of Mitchell exactly as I would have expected, but none the worse for that. The only really touching part was his falling in love with Victoria Coren. This happens right at the end of the book and is, I suspect, the reason he wrote the thing.

The other book I managed to squeeze in was Stonemouth by Iain Banks. I will always buy Banks' non-sci-fi books as even a bad one is better than a lot of other average stuff. The last Banks novel (The Steep Approach to Garbadale) I thought was pretty underwhelming. I didn't engage with the characters and the "shocking" twist was pretty lame by Banksian standards. Interestingly, I've seen this latest book described as "Banks-by-numbers", but I actually really liked it.

Once again, the book deals with a home-coming to a Scottish setting, in this case the small coastal town of Stonemouth.
The narrator is in his mid-twenties and we learn that he left town 5 years or so ago after upsetting the local Mr Big. The gaps are slowly filled in and you rendez-vous with the (to me, at least) satisfying ending via the usual, everyday Banks fare of alcohol and drug abuse, a bit of sex, some scatology oh, and of course, murder.
It wasn't a hard or heavy read, but I'd still recommend it to Banks fans and those new to his work.

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Nice to see the book review thread back.

Recently I have mainly been reading...

This book is full of spiders by Jason Pargin (writing as David Wong, which is the sequel to John dies at the end, reviewed further up this thread.

I loved JDatE, so it was probably inevitable that I'd be disappointed by TBiFOS, and disappointed I was.

The story follows David, John and Amy as they face another attempted demonic invasion, this time by spider-like creatures who can nest inside human skulls, turning their host into a near unstoppable killing-machine.

As the spiders breed and spread in [Undisclosed] the epidemic is seen by America as a zombie apocalypse and [Undisclosed] is quarantined off from the rest of the world, with the hospital becoming a prison for those who are suspected of being infected.

Pargin has a bit of fun at the expense of those armed and ready for the zombie uprising, but mostly this book lacks the humour that made JDatE so much fun. Arguably it's a better horror novel, but it's just not as much fun to read.

The Long Earth by Terry Pratchett and Stephen Baxter. In the near future a circuit diagram appears on the Internet - a simple circuit, with a potato at its heart, and components which can be purchased from Radio Shack.

The assembled circuit allows the user to 'step' to a parallel Earth, arbitrarily labeled 'East' or 'West' of the real Earth (named Datum Earth). The users can also step from those parallel worlds, potentially traveling hundreds of thousands of steps from Datum.

The parallel Earths are all virgin territory, with abundant animal life, but no humans, although there are some intelligent hominid species.

For most people stepping causes nausea, but some people turn out to be natural steppers, capable of traveling without discomfort and even without the aid of their potato powered circuit. Also about 20% of humans are unable to step at all. Finally, no iron or solid compounds containing iron can be transported when stepping.

Joshua, a natural stepper, is hired by the incredibly powerful Black corporation to travel through the long Earths with Lobsang, a Tibetan motorcycle repairman reincarnated into a supercomputer, and they set out to see how far the long Earth extends and to find out what is driving a migration of some of the hominid species.

Joshua and Lobsang's travels are interspersed with some description of events on an near Datum. Mass migrations from Earth have damaged the economy, gold prices have plummeted, there is growing resentment felt by those unable to step and governments are struggling to both define what is their sovereign territory and to maintain law and order there.

So, basically, this is a fantasy/science fiction/cowboy novel come travelogue, with a bit of exploration of the possibilities of divergent evolution thrown in.

And, yes, it is exactly as much of a mess as that sounds. The central premise is interesting, but neither of the authors seem to have any idea where they want to go with it.

This is how the novel felt to me; Discworld, Pratchett's most famous creation, started off as a joke, but has, over the course of 40+ books, been fleshed out into a real world, with geography, history, politics and culture. The Long Earth feels like a deliberate attempt to invent another landscape for such exploration, but it spends far much time mapping out what's going to be in future books.

It's a couple of chapters of "Here's the basic idea" and then, effectively, dozens of chapters saying "Here's something that we're going to explore in future books".

None of the ideas are bad, as such, it would just have been nice if they could have picked a couple and looked at them properly in this book.

The sequel, The long war is due out this summer and it will be interesting to see if this manages to be a real novel rather than a to-do list.


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Sorry, missed one:

Dodger by Terry Pratchett

Yeah, OK, so my reading hasn't been very highbrow of late.

The eponymous Dodger is a tosher (somebody who combs the sewers for lost coins or jewelry) in Victorian London who, one rainy night, rescues a young woman who is being beaten up by two thugs.

She turns out to be a rather significant person, sought by foreign governments, who want her dead or alive. Fortunately Dodger is assisted by two gentlemen who witnessed the assault; Henry Mayhew and Charlie Dickens.

Various other eminent Victorians turn up; Disraeli, Robert Peel, Angela Coutts, a cameo from Charles Babbage and mentions of Karl Marx.

Really this is just Pratchett's treatise on Victorian poverty. There's a plot, but it's slender, lacking any real sense of peril, and serves only to carry as many bits of trivia about late 19th century London as the author could cram in.

So, that's three books read and a sense of disappointment about all of them. I'm about to start on Brighton Rock, which I'm sure will be more satisfying.


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Brighton Rock's ok. If you like that kind of thing.

Pratchett and Baxter: hmm. One of my favourite authors and one of my least favourite... you have not convinced me that Pterry has recovered from his last couple of discworld novels, which have been to say the least, thin. I can see why he would want to leave the place, but I've been looking at Dodger marked down to a tenner in Tescos and avoiding it.


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I need to get back into reading. I used to read often when I was at school and college but I've just got crap at it since (the discipline of reading, I *can* still physically read).

I have a shelf with probably a dozen books on that I've started and never finished. The strange thing is, I was enjoying nearly all of them when I stopped for one reason or another.

The only thing I seem to be able to read these days is non-fiction.

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Brighton Rock's ok. If you like that kind of thing.


Well I've had little time for reading (or posting) recently, but I have made it half-way through Brighton Rock and, so far, I'm quite enjoying it.

However, this week I've been on holiday, visiting the in-laws in Somerset and the law demands that when on holiday you read something crap, but entertaining - and no five words in the whole of literature can better denote a novel fitting that description than the cover legend, "Now a major motion picture".

Hence I found myself taking on Cloud Atlas by David Mitchell (no, not that David Mitchell - a different one), which actually turned out to be a bit of a gem of a book.

Or, rather, 6 books. The novel is structured like an onion, with 5 stories split into 2, the first half of each ending at a critical moment in the plot, and a centrepiece story, told in completeness and then succeeded by the 2nd half of each of the other stories.

So the opening and closing story is that of an American notary's journal of his travels in the Pacific during the 19th century. The published form of the first half of this journal is then read in the 2nd story by an impoverished and disinherited young English composer in 1931, who describes his adventures travelling Europe in search of a benefactor in a series of letters to his Cambridge friend and lover. Forty years later the death of the correspondent sends a cub reporter into a life-threatening hunt for a report he wrote, describing major safety failings at a newly opened nuclear plant. In turn her story becomes the first half of a novel sent to a vanity publisher, trapped in a nursing home against his will. His adventures become an old movie, seen by the protagonist of the 5th story, a clone created to serve for life in a fast-food restaurant, in a darkly dystopian future Korea, run by corporations. What she discovers and writes about her society survives not only her own short life, but the fall of mankind, to become the religion of a peaceful group of farmers living the iron-age existence that follows the collapse of civilisation in the final story.

There is a suggestion that we're seeing the journey of the same soul through the ages in these stories, but also each story, in some way, suggests that the preceding one was fictional. There are a number of recurring themes - ascent and descent, dominion of the strong over the weak, the birth and death of political ideologies and the changing nature of language.

Obviously a book like this lives and dies on how well the author pulls off the trick structure, and Mitchell does a superb job. The changing narrative voice is convincing, each story stands well in isolation (except maybe the 2nd, which seems quite thematically different to the rest, and is vaguely unsatisfying) and spotting the linking elements is enjoyable.

If I had a criticism it would be that none of the stories is particularly new in its own right, and several times they felt so familiar I was almost convinced I'd read the book before, but overall it works very well indeed.

So, it turned out to be not lightweight crap at all, but actually a fairly challenging and very enjoyable read, although I can only imagine what a god-awful mess they'll have made of the film smile


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One by an author commonly thought of as science fiction, but this, somehow, isn't... China Mieville, "The City and The City"

Imagine a place in the back of the beyond of Europe where two city-states share the same physical location. Some streets belong to one, some to the other, some are separated as finely as individual houses or trees in a park with different branches in each city.

People simply don't see members of the other state; they're trained from birth not to, but just in case, there's a secret oversight agency - Breach - to make sure.

And there's a body which appears to have been killed in one city and dumped in the other...

Interesting, thought-provoking, evocative, and a damn good thriller on top of it all.

Recommended.


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Looks thoroughly professional, Patch, but you'd be hard pushed to find someone less well qualified than me to judge the content! I hope it goes well.

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Well this thread seems to have fallen in abeyance again, so ...

Last week I read a book with no wizards in at all!!! It was called The Casual Vacancy and it was written by a little-known children's author, called J K Rowling.

The book opens with the sudden death of well-liked Parish councilor Barry Fairbrother and then watches the news of his death filter into his home town of Pagford, sending it into a death-spiral.

The conservative (small 'c') members of the council see it as their opportunity to replace Barry with somebody who will not stand in the way of them redrawing the parish boundaries so that The Fields, the council sink estate they were lumbered with in the 60s, will fall under the remit of their neighbouring city, Yarvil.

Meanwhile, Barry's friends try to hold the seat, to keep The Fields part of Pagford and also to extend the lease for the parish building that houses the local addiction clinic.

This polite, political battle also has a sweeping effect on five of the local children; Andrew (scared that his father's candidacy for the position may expose to the world what an uncouth, abusive bully he is), Fats (virtually a sociopath, driven by his hatred for his terrified father), Gaia (who longs to leave Pagford behind and return to London), Sukhvinder (daughter of the local GP and silent victim of Fats' bullying) and Krystal (vicious and foul-mouthed daughter of a local heroin addict and prostitute).

What's immediately striking about this book is how utterly unlikeable all of the characters are. The conservative elements of the council are little Englanders; small-minded, Mail reading curtain twitchers and those who stand against them do so because they either believe it's what Barry would have wanted or for their own ulterior motives.

The book's emotional heart is in Krystal; initially we see her only as a problem, she truants, she smokes, drinks, swears, hits other children (knocking teeth out in the process) and even tries to get herself pregnant in order to get a council house. However, she's pretty much the only virtuous character in the novel, and we also get to see her be the only carer for her 3-year-old brother, try to get mother off heroin and see that Barry Fairbrother was the one adult who actually understood her and believed in her.

In true Harry Potter style a magic wand is waved and Krystal is transported out of the slums and becomes a princess. Except that doesn't happen. Not even a little bit. None of the characters have a happy ending, and Krystal's story is utterly bleak.

The Casual Vacancy is actually a really good book, and Rowling quite deftly uses the descent into the pit of depression at the end to make some excellent points about the nature of our society, but (and it's a big but) like the social issues that this book addresses it doesn't attempt to wrap them all up neatly and fix them, you have to be prepared to leave a lot of the stories unresolved by the final page.

All in, though, this is great first adult book and one that's really raised my opinion of her as an author.


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So, just me reading this month, then? Shame, as it's nice to sit out of an evening in this weather and take in a book (and a cheeky glass of wine).

Which is what I've been doing with The Ocean at the End of the Lane by Neil Gaiman.

Our unnamed narrator, in his early 40s, finds himself detouring to his childhood home as he travels between a funeral and its wake. Although the house he lived in as a boy is long gone a farm at the end of the lane is still there and a visit there triggers his recollection of a strange series of events that took place when he was 7.

The chain of events kicks off when his family's lodger steals his dad's car to use to commit suicide, but, as this is Gaiman, rapidly expands to take in other worlds, magic and malevolent creatures which threaten our young narrator's life.

As always Gaiman's creations are rich in imagination and the resulting story is one that will please adults and older children alike, although it's probably a little too intense for under-12s.


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So tired at this time of year, no chance to read before falling into a nighttime coma. I'm stuck halfway through the latest William Boyd... Looking forward to a few days off and hopefully Iain Banks' final work.

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Well, a week off camping in (surprisingly) sunny Brittany gave me the opportunity to finish Waiting for Sunrise by William Boyd.

Boyd is one of my favourite authors and although it took me a while to get into this story, that was more due to my own lack of reading time than the book itself.

The improbably-named Lysander Rief is a slightly foppish British actor, taking time out in 1913 Vienna from his career and his engagement to seek treatment for an intimate performance problem. He is a convert to the new science of psychoanalysis and Freud's home city provides plenty of options.
From this rather staid beginning, things pick up speed after an affair ends badly and the world is plunged into war. Although some parts are a little clunky, or even contrived, I enjoyed it greatly and ended up trying hard not to finish the last 50 pages, knowing it would mean the end of the story.

I'm now starting Small Wars Permitting, the memoirs of War Correspondent Christina Lamb. This promises to be a rather more sobering take on conflict, though the writing style is so-far very readable...

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Nobody read anything since September last year?! Me neither. However I have just completed a (for me) unusual double: two non-fiction works in a row.

The first is a tale most people of a certain age/background are aware of - if not in depth.

Operation Mincemeat by Ben Macintyre is the fullest account yet of the WWII "deception" to put fake secret documents concerning Allied plans to invade Southern Europe in front of the German High Command by the apparently unfortunate death in a plane crash of a courier over the Mediterranean.

The conception, development, implementation and aftermath of the operation are covered in thorough, yet very readable, detail. New information emerges, notably about the rather inaccurate description of how Glyndwr Michael and his family were treated in the previous account.

The author's previous work Agent Zigzag was also a ripping yarn of wartime derring-do and also worth a look.

The second book was a lot more frivolous and less satisfying. I Am The Secret Footballer is the result of a Guardian column written anonymously by a professional player in the English game*, revealing what life for those at the sharp end of the Beautiful Game is really like. Sorry for the cliché, but that is basically what the book is. Try as I might, I couldn't find myself surprised that footballers earn a lot (but wouldn't you, given the chance?), are cynical, sometimes don't get on with their managers, sometimes do get on with women they aren't supposed to and frequently behave like any teenager with minimal responsibilities and a million quid would.
The only bits that were vaguely redeeming were our masked hero's genuine disgust at the racism that still besmirched the sport, and his reasonably frank description of his battle with depression. Because it was serialised in the Grauniad, I think we are supposed to be impressed that a footballer brought up on a council estate can appreciate art, literature and fine wine. I'm afraid I want a bit more than that before I start to empathise.
*It's Dave Kitson, apparently.

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I've just got out of the habit of reviewing!

Miles Jupp - Fibber in the Heat. His attempts to be a journalist on England's post-Ashes tour of India in 2005/6. It would be necessary to understand cricket and its byzantine traditions, and also helps if you find the sort of gentle, whimsical humour which Miles Jupp delivers funny, but I qualify on both grounds, and it made me laugh.

Roy Hattersley - The Edwardians. Made me realise how much of the modern world was forged in those years between the death of Victoria and the start of the Great War. Everything was changing, from the role of women, the way we worked, the interaction between Government and Monarch, social structures generally, technology, Empire, you name it. Fascinating.

Rowland Wright - Vulcan 607. The story of the bombing raid on Stanley Airfield during the Falklands Conflict. Despite a ringing endorsement from Jeremy Clarkson, this was actually really good. He must have been in non-cartoon mode at the time. The book demonstrated a sort of make-do-and-mend approach where someone decided that we needed to do something that the RAF did not have the equipment or experience to do, and to do it now. Some of the snippets are breathtaking - we had not done air-air refuelling on Vulcans in years, so the RAF had removed the equipment from the planes. There were none of the probes for the connection to the tanker in RAF stocks. We resorted to going to airframes that had been donated to museums to recover the components. Amazing. In any sensible analysis bombing Stanley was insane, but it was done to send a message, and in that sense it was a total success. Hard to imagine us doing the same now.

I'm sure I've read much more than that, too.


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I've just leafed through and it appears my last contribution to this was in 2010. Ooops!


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Yeah, I'm sure I've read books recently that I haven't reviewed on here, but I'm blowed if I can remember which ones.

Also, I'm about to start on Godel, Escher, Bach, a book not known for being an afternoon's light reading, it could be some time before you see me back here.


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Must be twenty (thirty?) years since I read GEB. I recall the library had to order it just for me and wasn't all that happy!

Agree with Mansilla about Vulcan 607 - something was done that we could barely do then and can't do now...

Recent reads chez barnacle:

Great North Road by Peter F Hamilton. An SF murder mystery set in Newcastle (and incidentally an alien planet): a well-known clone family member has been murdered, but none of the clones are missing. The way in which he has been murdered is a carbon copy of a murder on the alien planet twenty years earlier, which one of the protagonists - the only survivor of the attack - claims was done by an alien (on a planet with no animal life). She has served twenty years of a life sentence for the murder.

Nice, complex plotting with a lot going on and a slow reveal of who did what to whom... long, but recommended as is pretty much everything by Hamilton, if you're into hard SF.

Raising Steam by Terry Pratchett. Discworld, and more of his exploration of societal change by taking things to ridiculous extremes. Competent enough but not really in the same style as his earlier work - I suspect there's a lot of editing in what he is producing of recent years. To be honest I preferred a book of his that I expected not to - Dodger - which was released last year and is set in London and seems - apart from a slight timeline glitch because he wanted to include a number of historical characters who weren't all around at the same time - to be quite accurate with the representation of mid-Victorian London. Definitely recommended.


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Originally Posted By: Mansilla

Rowland Wright - Vulcan 607. The story of the bombing raid on Stanley Airfield during the Falklands Conflict. Despite a ringing endorsement from Jeremy Clarkson, this was actually really good. He must have been in non-cartoon mode at the time. The book demonstrated a sort of make-do-and-mend approach where someone decided that we needed to do something that the RAF did not have the equipment or experience to do, and to do it now. Some of the snippets are breathtaking - we had not done air-air refuelling on Vulcans in years, so the RAF had removed the equipment from the planes. There were none of the probes for the connection to the tanker in RAF stocks. We resorted to going to airframes that had been donated to museums to recover the components. Amazing. In any sensible analysis bombing Stanley was insane, but it was done to send a message, and in that sense it was a total success. Hard to imagine us doing the same now.

I'm sure I've read much more than that, too.



I like that book too. An easy read for history non-fiction. Just shows how behind the times we were when the conflict started... and it was still the Cold War era when we presumably had a bigger military budget. This is why I don't like the idea or shelving air craft carriers and the planes to go with them !

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Originally Posted By: AndrewR
Also, I'm about to start on Godel, Escher, Bach.


I think I may have read the Ladybird version: Kurt, Maurits and Johann go for a walk.

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I don't get into bed for less than Umberto Eco's Foucaults Pendulum. And even then, I prefer to read it in his native Italian.

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I listened to (ok, I'm lazy) Great Britain's Great War by Jeremy Paxman

I thought it was very good - really interesting in-depth insight into the war both at the macro and micro level. The only bit that irritated me was that he seems to jump either side of the Lions Led By Donkeys argument. I certainly understood the war better than I ever have as a result of "reading" the book.

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So, based on your new learning, is our beloved education secretary talking out of his bottom-hole?


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Fundamentally, yes.


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Right, a string of factors, (not least of which is me being on my tod for the last month) have culminated in me finishing, about 10 minutes ago, Antony Beevor's The Second World War.

This is an 800-page volume that - I hope - has now scratched my WWII itch for good.

I've long felt that this conflict (which ended 20 years before I was born; that's the length of time since Pulp Fiction was made - not that long!) has had an influence on almost every aspect of life that goes beyond its 6-year (give or take) duration.

The British Army has been deployed in Afghanistan and Iraq for well over twice that long, yet when in Britain we talk about "The War", everyone knows which one we mean.
As a result, I've always had the feeling that there must be a lot more to it than Spitfires in the Battle of Britain, Monty in the desert and Band of Brothers.

There is.

This book (recognised as a pretty decent one-volume attempt at a history), covers everything from the sense of humiliation at the Treaty of Versailles that allowed the Nazi infection to germinate and thrive, the appallingly brutal Sino-Japanese War that was already in full swing before the rest of the World got involved and how it was crucial in drawing (or not) Soviet and Japanese resources away from other theatres all the way through to the petty rivalries between commanders and politicians on all sides and the repeated and shameful betrayal of promises at every level from the personal to the continental and ending up with "half of Europe enslaved as the price for liberating the other half".

I now at least feel that I have a better understanding of how the whole thing fitted together and thanks to the brilliantly readable style, I didn't become too bogged down on one front or another.

I haven't fully digested it yet, but the things that strike me immediately are the numbers: I can't assimilate another 1,000 or 50,000 or 400,000 or 2,000,000 deaths, casualties or refugees. They are just too great to take in, especially when so many are inflicted by regimes on their own people.
Secondly, few nations (in Europe, at least) got such a raw deal before, during and after the War as the Poles. They got shafted by absolutely everyone.

For anyone who wants a reasonable overview of the conflict we just can't forget, this is a pretty good attempt.

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