no need girls, no need....keyboard warriors rarely prove anything, least of all appendage size.

im going to say don't feed the trolls on this occasion....

chrissy is just poking a wasps nest for fun. i see no reason to justify my desesions or preferences to any one else, especaly to some one like chrissy

i know why im here, you know why im here, i know why your here, and you know why your here

and its got nothing to do with proving our social status

im a little disapointed in chrissy to be honest, for some one who has clocked up over 1k posts i expected more.
you clearly have your reasons and have moved on chrissy. i wish you all the best of luck with what ever you chose to own next, even a X5
please leave this owners club/infuasts club with the good grace you entered it in and we will all be happy

If we go back to initial thread -

I was talking about unreliability, and the fact they are available for under £1500

The status, and cred part was just an addition...


Chrissy

This was just meant to be a thread about my gradual dissapointment with these cars.

Can I stress I still have a 20vt and its used daily...

I just cant understand the posts people have written over recent months about opening the garage and gazing for hours at a coop...


Chrissy

If i had a £ for everytime someone smiled at my car in traffic or on the motorway ide be able to buy a nice set of ferrari badges to stick on it! lol

Seriously tho, ive had people in porches wind down their window and say nice car mate. . . is that really important tho? i dont believe so! i wouldnt care if people didnt like my car. Everytime i sit my car i have a big grin on my face, i love every min of it and thats why im here. People within the forum and the club share the same passion as me and if i was really bothered about "respect" from other motorists then i would look for it here. . . from fellow coupe lovers. If i get "approval" here then im happy with that.

This thread has started to get a bit bitter and there really is no need.

I hope you enjoy your new car Chrissy . . . and next time you see a coupe drive past you will remember the good times you had.

that last comment really sums it up, Chrissy you have loved coupes too, and decided to move on, fair enough, remember the good times

glad to see you taking it so well likyl...

If you dont like it,dont buy it!!!
I buy my cars because I like em,sometimes thats got me grief from Mrs .S but I can live with that!
I dont like many new cars,within an affordable price range,and couldnt justify spending stupid sums on ones I do!
The coop is an individual thing,personally I love em 1I also like the way people look at at it,not one person at my work etc has said they didnt like the styling of it.
It suits me just dandy so Im happy.
If you aint happy then sell it and get sumthing else!
Jeez its not rocket science,

I agree with the sixth smiley.....

Is this thread on loan from Scoobynet?

Some really bad attitudes on here.

I don't understand why you care what other people think?
Also - when you say TT and RX8 drivers go past and think "Ha thats only a £1200 car" thats not a reflection on the coop but a reflection on you as an owner
If you kept it in the condition that it deserves to be in then people would think it's worth a lot more than it is! I've spent about £3k getting my car to look as beautiful as she is and I couldn't care less how much it's worth because I'll never sell her!

New cars are good but they aren't interesting and they aren't classic. Why would you have had 8 coupes and clocked up over 1000 posts on here if you thought they were sh!t??

I agree 100%.

I've had all sorts of cars, including two Range Rover Vogue's, two Range Rover Sport's, an Audi Q7, two RS4's (one saloon one convertible), two E46 M3 convertibles (one was manual one was an SMG), an E60 M5, an S3, two ST-3's... I could go on, but I won't.

Every single one of them cars is in a different league to my little 20vt, and they all offer different things. I still get a smile on my face every time my Coupé comes into vision when I'm coming down my road. I loved every single one of the cars I've had (except my Shogun I've got now, and my manual M3, the M3 was a bit of a dog...) and I've loved them all for different reasons.

My Coupé has been a garden gnome for the past two years, and hasn't done a single mile. Regardless of that, it's still had an oil change every 3 months, gets washed and hoovered every week and is going for a cambelt service in a few weeks time. That's because it's "my little baby" haha, and I care a lot about this car.

I've had all sorts of attention in my cars as you can expect, I'm only 22 after all. That has been anything from girls swarming round me as I'm getting into my M3 (red with a black roof... It was a stunning car), to police pulling me over in a Range Rover Sport. I even had one policeman say to me... "Just because you're in Daddy's Range Rover, doesn't make you good!" He was gutted when the check came back on it to see it was mine. Attention because of your car isn't always a good thing. The only good thing that can come from attention is that some women love it because they think you're rich... These are 9 times out of 10 the ones who'll leave you in need of a trip to the cock doctor though, so it's not really a good thing. And for using a car to impress men isn't a good thing either in my eyes, unless you're into a bit of sausage.

But still, tucked away on my path, my Coupé gets attention, and for good reasons. It was only last night there was a bunch of lads crowded round my gate, when I went out, they were trying to figure out what it was, one even asked if it was a custom made car because he'd never seen one.

I first got my 20vt when I was 18, and I got it because I loved everything about it. Back then, I liked and had an interest in cars. But now to me, a car is just a car. That might be because I've had so many of them I've got bored of them. Despite that though, the Coupé will always have a special place in my heart, like the girl I lost my virginity to haha!


I don't know what the point in this post was, or what I've proved, I just wanted to jump on the bandwagon and get involved.

Just think for a minute about how, if you have say £15,000 to spend you could buy a Megane CC or something else modern, or you could buy a Coupé. How much it will cost you for the next five years. If you are lucky enough (or perhaps not un-lucky enough) to have a reliable motor your running costs will be low - but you are GUARANTEED to loose in the order of £10,000 in depreciation (plus another £2-3000 if you buy with finance. If you spend £5K on the very best Coupé you are pretty much guaranteed not to loose more than £4000 in depreciation, and it is very possible, much less if you treat her as she should be treated. Therefore you can spend at least £1200 a year on maintaining your coupe before you even begin to be worse off. This means that the bill I got for an engine rebuild of £2400 just after I bought my Coupé is effectively cancelled out after just two years.

The problem arises if you don't have £15000, you only have £2500, or you don't even have that, you have to finance the purchase. That's when buying a Coupé is a mistake. That's when you should buy the best Focus you can find. I bought a Merc C230 Coupé earlier this year as the daily drive. I hate it, I want to sell it, and if I'm lucky, I'll 'only' loose £2000 on it. I want to replace it with another Fiat Coupé (in yellow if anyone has a cherished original example). Paying for its upkeep will be a pleasure.

In a way though, what chrissy said originally said is kind of right. A Coupé can no longer be relied upon as you only and daily means of transport. Which means they are now ‘classics’, to be kept in the garage, for high days and holidays. Or as your daily transport only if, like me, you drive about 1 mile to work, with a back up car at home.

i have to dispute that a coupe cannot be used as a daily driver
a well maintained coupe will be just as reliable as any simuler car

i did indeed use my 16vt which was tuned as a daily driver, even to see clients the length and breadth of the county

so i do take exception to that, and a lot of people on here also use there coupes as daily drivers

"IMO if you have spent 3k on your car then its a waste, as it still looks shite"

Well one thing that hasn't changed since it was new is the design - so you must have one hell of a low IQ to buy eight of the damn things if you think it looks so bad.

IMO

Mods lock this thread please - Many thanks.

I think we all know what you mean Chrissy, but maybe saying it like that is not going to score points.

I do think its a little confusing that people are saying they don't care what people think of them and there cars though.
If you think of a car as a jumper, most people would prefer not to wear the one that their gran gave them for christmas.

dont you just love it when the boys come out to play

I use my coupe as my daily driver, about 1200 miles a month, and its been a damn site more reliable than any other car I've had so far. In fact my golf gti was the least reliable, It broke down on the way to work at least 5 times in just 10 months of owning it.

I've been lucky with cars to be honest (touch wood)...

The only problems I've ever had have been...

Coupé - Clutch and cracked manifold. (I also had some stones that jammed up the gear selector stopping me from getting first and second)

M3 (Red one) - Coil pack failed, fixed under warranty

M3 (Silver one) - That was just a dog. Something with the gear selector went and caused the gear stick to be sloppy. It had just been ragged though, and was a cheap car.

RS4 cab - Clutch pressure plate buckled after 4100 miles and took out the friction plate within minutes

Range Rover Vogue - Blocked oil breather

Range Rover Sport - Snapped ABS sensor wire

Audi A4 1.8T - Clogged up sump that took out the oil pump, fixed under warranty but should have been recalled because of a design fault

Renault Kangoo - Fuel leak that couldn't be found

Transit Connect - Snapped drive shaft (at 1 in the morning just after the junction for Silverstone on the M40... And it was raining and I didn't have a coat!!!!!)



Things go wrong with any car, no matter how new or old man!

I would venture to differ. Mine has been a daily driver for, what, thirteen years now. It's like any thirteen year old car: if it's looked after, properly serviced, and doesn't have the wheels ragged off it, it will behave with no more and no less trouble than any other. I have no worries getting into it in a morning to go to work, or to drive six hundred miles each way to the north of Scotland. Or indeed, to drive it two or three thousand miles around Europe and thrash it across an Alpine pass or two.

And I do that with no kid gloves, no special preparation beyond checking the tyres and the water and the oil, and perhaps an oil and filter change before the longer trip.

It doesn't break because of any intrinsic 'fiatcoupeness'. It breaks because it's used outside it's design parameters (A mile to work? It'll never get warmed up, but then again, neither would anything else - at that distance, I'd walk...), because it's badly maintained, or because it's badly modified.

I keep the coupe - which I do think is becoming something of a classic, but which I don't think will be valuable in the near future - for one reason and one reason only: I like it.

It owes me *nothing*. It's been paid for ten years and more. It's cheap to run and cheap to service, compared to the service costs of modern fast cars and the depreciation of pretty much anything. It's comfortable, fast enough, and equally at home on the motorway or the twisties. What's not to like?

Neil

Why's he still here?

Like this idiot

Chrissy, with as much clout as you seem to think you carry on the forum you would think the mods would be clambering over themselves to obey to your wishes, but alas it doesn't work like that. We lock it, when we want to, not when we are told too!!!

Also, just to add to everyone else, this is what the thread is about, not name calling or trolling, so on topic please!

chrissy ok you've fell out of love for the coupe but why slag them off and there owners on a fiat coupe club forum? A bit stupid don't you think?

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Chrissy, with as much clout as you seem to think you carry on the forum you would think the mods would be clambering over themselves to obey to your wishes, but alas it doesn't work like that. We lock it, when we want to, not when we are told too!!! [/quote]

Thats a bit below the buckle JimO, After all we have been through,... I just didnt want the thread getting ugly and me blamed..


Also can I clear up 1 fact, My 20vt is in excellent condition, Washed, buffed, tyre shined etc etc,.. as far as 1998 cars go, Not many look as well kept as my car.

I dont drive it in a hidious and filthy state.

Chrissy

After slagging off the coops and there owners,do you wonder why your car is still not selling at £1400?
How can you berate a car for reliability and then expect to sell it to the same people you berated it to?