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First Handling Mod
#670583
29/08/2008 14:11
29/08/2008 14:11
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Gunzi
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Going on the various threads, including the one about lower braces. What do people think is the best first handling mod? I've done my wishbones etc and am now thinking of bracing. I get the impression that adding just springs would give a crashy ride and overtime may ruin the dampers, so I'll leave that until later when I can get uprated dampers or coilovers. So this choice is between Front Lower Subframe Brace, Rear Whiteline ARB or Strut Brace? Opinions please
Last edited by Gunzi; 29/08/2008 16:21.
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Re: First Handling Mod
[Re: Gunzi]
#670586
29/08/2008 14:14
29/08/2008 14:14
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Reuven
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Reuven
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rear arb-no doute,most bang for buck
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Re: First Handling Mod
[Re: Gunzi]
#670654
29/08/2008 16:27
29/08/2008 16:27
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mattB
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Jack the car up, grab the wheel and give it a wobble back and forwards - as in towards the centre of the car and towards yourself.
Death-rattle-tastic
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Re: First Handling Mod
[Re: mattB]
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29/08/2008 16:48
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Per
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Per
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First and biggest handling mod: lowering springs.
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Re: First Handling Mod
[Re: Gunzi]
#670669
29/08/2008 17:14
29/08/2008 17:14
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Posts: 12,296 Sandhurst
Begbie
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Thanks all, and Nigel that's a very comprehensive list!
How can I check my rear radius arms? You can also tell if it has gone, by the fact you have negative camber on the rear wheels
Your car is Usain Bolt with wellies
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Re: First Handling Mod
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#670708
29/08/2008 18:12
29/08/2008 18:12
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suba
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suba
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First and biggest handling mod: lowering springs. What a load of rubbish!
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Re: First Handling Mod
[Re: Begbie]
#673877
04/09/2008 12:35
04/09/2008 12:35
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Posts: 5,391 Essex
Trappy
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Thanks all, and Nigel that's a very comprehensive list!
How can I check my rear radius arms? You can also tell if it has gone, by the fact you have negative camber on the rear wheels A printout I received from Elite after having my tracking done showed that I have negative camber on one rear wheel and positive on the other side... Could knackered rear radius arms cause this? Sorry for the hi-jack
F****** b****** thing...
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Re: First Handling Mod
[Re: Trappy]
#673896
04/09/2008 13:18
04/09/2008 13:18
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Begbie
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Thanks all, and Nigel that's a very comprehensive list!
How can I check my rear radius arms? You can also tell if it has gone, by the fact you have negative camber on the rear wheels A printout I received from Elite after having my tracking done showed that I have negative camber on one rear wheel and positive on the other side... Could knackered rear radius arms cause this? Sorry for the hi-jack Yep, but it's generally the bearings for the trailing arm that has gone. You can get replacements from alt auto's for about £30 a side instead of the £120 a side for a trailing arm
Your car is Usain Bolt with wellies
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Re: First Handling Mod
[Re: Trappy]
#673914
04/09/2008 13:50
04/09/2008 13:50
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suba
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suba
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depends by how much i have the same and the bearings etc. are fine.
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Re: First Handling Mod
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#673917
04/09/2008 13:55
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Trappy
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I try to dig up the printout later and find out. It certainly wasn't a great deal though...
F****** b****** thing...
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Re: First Handling Mod
[Re: Trappy]
#674031
04/09/2008 16:36
04/09/2008 16:36
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suba
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suba
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I can let you know if mine is similar - it was within manufacturer's tolerance.
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Re: First Handling Mod
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#680964
17/09/2008 21:16
17/09/2008 21:16
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Ismo
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Back to the original handling list
Eibach ARB set has Front & Rear Anti Roll bars with better bushes and bars are made some better harder steel?
Front is 26mm diameter Rear is 22mm diameter
I have just ordered that set with very reasonable price, I think. Is it crap when compared to whiteline rear ARB, any comments? Someone using it which what kind of results? Whiteline do not make front ARB?
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Re: First Handling Mod
[Re: Tartandude]
#751107
19/01/2009 17:38
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JIM16vt
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Re: First Handling Mod
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#751336
19/01/2009 22:20
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symonh2000
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Sorry to jump on this thread and apologies if it has been asked before... But will a strut brace from an Alfa 145 fit on my 20VT?
The one in question was an OMP one.
Cheers.
Last edited by symonh2000; 19/01/2009 22:21.
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Re: First Handling Mod
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#751455
20/01/2009 00:19
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JIM16vt
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im no expert i would say yes
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Re: First Handling Mod
[Re: cowboy]
#751556
20/01/2009 09:49
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symonh2000
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The one I was looking at was from YB Racing. But if it won't fit I will wait and get the correct one.
Cheers.
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Re: First Handling Mod
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#751557
20/01/2009 09:51
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Akeme
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Akeme
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First and biggest handling mod?
Good Tyres.
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Re: First Handling Mod
[Re: spyke]
#751618
20/01/2009 11:19
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symonh2000
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symonh2000
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I am very tempted to make myself one as well. I have access to some steel and I am good with a mig welder. I can also get it power coated.
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Re: First Handling Mod
[Re: spyke]
#751717
20/01/2009 13:30
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symonh2000
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A stainless one would look great I agree.
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Re: First Handling Mod
[Re: cowboy]
#751835
20/01/2009 15:36
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maastiff
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maastiff
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I bought mine from Strutbracer, only £48 sparco one from 16v, very cheap and fast delivery to Ireland.
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Re: First Handling Mod
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#751871
20/01/2009 16:20
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Johna
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Johna
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its gone upto 60 quid for a omp
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Re: First Handling Mod
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#751969
20/01/2009 17:42
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symonh2000
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What has to be done to make a 16V one fit a 20VT? Do you need to move the relay box on the passenger side and the wiring on the drivers side near the strut tops or is there more to it?
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Re: First Handling Mod
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#751976
20/01/2009 17:45
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Johna
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Johna
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think thats it, 16v strut braces look better.. am sure there was a post on fitting the 16v braces onto the 20v somewhere.
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Re: First Handling Mod
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#751978
20/01/2009 17:47
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symonh2000
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think thats it, 16v strut braces look better.. am sure there was a post on fitting the 16v braces somewhere. I also heard that the 16V one does a better job of stiffening the front, because it is straight and locates on 2 bolts on the strut top, as opposed to the 20V which loactes on one. I think it was the sparco 20VT one BTW.
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Re: First Handling Mod
[Re: cowboy]
#752012
20/01/2009 18:20
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Johna
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robs is nice though, cant remember where he got it from.
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Re: First Handling Mod
[Re: cowboy]
#752068
20/01/2009 19:12
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JIM16vt
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like i said,im no expert[lol]
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Re: First Handling Mod
[Re: cowboy]
#752267
20/01/2009 22:56
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symonh2000
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OMP 16V ones are £81 on ebay including delivery from YB racing.
It is quite tempting..
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Re: First Handling Mod
[Re: Jimbo]
#752496
21/01/2009 11:18
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Nobby
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I can also get it power coated. There's a place in Minster Lovell that powder coats unless you have even better access to it I'll eventually get some bits done at Minster. There's a place in eynsham too - Oxford Industrial Finishers, speak to Colin
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Re: First Handling Mod
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#752499
21/01/2009 11:28
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Johna
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Johna
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OMP 16V ones are £81 on ebay including delivery from YB racing.
It is quite tempting.. £60 at strutbracer, not sure about delivery price though.
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Re: First Handling Mod
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#752851
21/01/2009 17:34
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symonh2000
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I can also get it power coated. There's a place in Minster Lovell that powder coats unless you have even better access to it I'll eventually get some bits done at Minster. There's a place in eynsham too - Oxford Industrial Finishers, speak to Colin I know Colin, as he does work for us.
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Re: First Handling Mod
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#755359
24/01/2009 23:59
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Akeme
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The design of the 20vt strutbrace is farcical as its the wrong shape and it only attaches the suspension mount on the passenger side, hardly ideal tbh! Be careful with the OMP braces on ebay as the mounting plates need to have holes drilled for the bolts so can be a pain if you dont have some large metal drill bits.
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Re: First Handling Mod
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#755380
25/01/2009 00:18
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symonh2000
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symonh2000
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The design of the 20vt strutbrace is farcical as its the wrong shape and it only attaches the suspension mount on the passenger side, hardly ideal tbh! Be careful with the OMP braces on ebay as the mounting plates need to have holes drilled for the bolts so can be a pain if you dont have some large metal drill bits. I will buy an OMP brace I think. I have access to large drill bits and a Pillar drill. Trouble is now I have to save some cash as I am worried about loosing my job.
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Re: First Handling Mod
[Re: MattM]
#759275
29/01/2009 19:47
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JIM16vt
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JIM16vt
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i heard there easy to fit but everyone says that and some thing always goes wrong,does for me anyway[lol]
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