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Rear speakers, oh my goodness!
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03/05/2008 00:34
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Although I upgraded the front speakers during the rebuild of Project Jigsaw to Infinity Reference Series components I was never truly happy with the sound quality. The head unit is a very reasonable Sony model and I was beginning to doubt whether I'd been sold a set of genuine Infinity speakers or if they'd been cheap Far Eastern copies Today the rear speakers were upgraded to a set of Sony 16.5cm two-ways (not 6x9) and OMG! The difference in sound quality is incredible! The whole system now sounds sooo much better So, I'd suggest to anyone thinking that their system isn't that good, ditch the feeble OE rear speakers and upgrade them at the first opportunity. Trust me, you won't believe the difference it makes, I didn't!
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Re: Rear speakers, oh my goodness!
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03/05/2008 01:01
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I definitely agree same issue as you decent sony head unit but awful sound quality. Replaced with brand new infinity reference series inc front tweeters and crossovers all for £60 (think they were last years models though)absolute bargain. Massive difference in sound quality much more balanced stereo sound Without a doubt a 'must do' upgrade!
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Re: Rear speakers, oh my goodness!
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03/05/2008 02:35
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go on brian show him a pic,you no you want to ooooooooh.............ok I'm doing a big spring cleaning at the moment so this is the best picture I have, but in a couple of weeks I'll post a complete photo session of the car, carpc included http://pwp.netcabo.pt/0150868001/img/fiat/DSC04539.jpg
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Re: Rear speakers, oh my goodness!
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03/05/2008 02:51
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Sooo cool
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Re: Rear speakers, oh my goodness!
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03/05/2008 03:29
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interesting read, got a pair of nice infinity 6x9's sat in the spare room, never been used. think this may be another project for while the coupe is off the road
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Re: Rear speakers, oh my goodness!
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03/05/2008 03:43
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interesting read, got a pair of nice infinity 6x9's sat in the spare room, never been used. think this may be another project for while the coupe is off the road Dito
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Re: Rear speakers, oh my goodness!
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03/05/2008 04:43
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cowboy, flyingcustard : thank you Probably the less said about that the better I can see I'm going to have to do some reading up on what's the best subwoofer and amp on the market now........when will this *improving* ever end? I bought a polkaudio mm1024 and I'me very happy with it. it works great in the small box I made for it on the side of the trunk, if that's any help to you
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Re: Rear speakers, oh my goodness!
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03/05/2008 12:07
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Yes, that is helpful, thanks Brian I'm certainly wanting to stick the sub in one of the side panels rather than use up valuable boot space. Now I just need to find some decent suppliers/prices. Price will be the most important factor, 'er indoors has stopped my pocket money after I bought the Widget!
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Re: Rear speakers, oh my goodness!
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03/05/2008 14:37
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s1mma did a fantastic audio install in my coupe about five years ago that comprised of mb quart reference series speakers all round (including a 10" sub). The install is still going strong after all this time - but be careful you'll get so used to the sound quality you'll only appreciate it when you go to another car with a lesser system!
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Re: Rear speakers, oh my goodness!
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03/05/2008 17:25
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Do you really get a good beat from a sub made in a box with those dimesions? I maybe looking into swapping the rear speakers over as it sounds a little weird with just fronts, although they are infinity kappa's and amped. Just feels like something is missing.
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Re: Rear speakers, oh my goodness!
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03/05/2008 17:56
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That's exactly the sort of thing I'm looking at Brian, simple, neat and effective (the install, not you! ) LOLOL sweetride: the box is kind of hybrid, it's molded to the wheel arch and the front, top and bottom are 20mm MDF. I managed to get +-21L from the box, that's enough for the sub to work. I have a 5.1 digital amplifier (conected to the carpc by an optical cable) working with a phantom central channel, front speakers are DLS MS6a and rear's Phase CFS16.25 and the sound stage is astonishing, with loads of definition in all frequencies
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Re: Rear speakers, oh my goodness!
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04/05/2008 03:52
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nice stuff brian.thought about this type of thing also but decided to keep my coop original and live with useless sound quality. set up looks really nice though
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05/05/2008 18:49
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Ive wanted to upgrade my back speakers but have read many threads, bringing up much work is need to stop rattling etc and it hard work just for two more speakers. Did you sound proof the quarters stan or just simply replace?
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Re: Rear speakers, oh my goodness!
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05/05/2008 19:13
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I'd already done the soundproofing. Being a tight-fisted so and so I had done some reading up on sound in cars and how the panels vibrating were the main issue. I then read that just about anything that slows down the panel vibration can radically alter the sound in the car and someone on here (Bockers/Barnacle etc) had mentioned simple roof flashing tape from B&Q, which I just happened to have a roll of in the shed To soundproof I simply cut small patches of flashing, maybe six/seven inches long and placed them on the panels until the vibration when being thumped with my hand, stopped Seriously, it made a huge difference! Anyhoo, the speakers I fitted (which I found in my loft and had never been fitted) were 16.5cm Sony XS-A1724 multi-fit, two-way speakers. You probably can't even buy them now they are so old but they are a perfect fit, and it was just a five minute job with the soldering iron to wire them up Bearing in mind that I did the soundproofing a while ago as part of the rebuild of the car and I've been using the original rear speakers ever since, then I think it's safe to say that even if you didn't soundproof you'd notice a heck of a difference HTH?
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Re: Rear speakers, oh my goodness!
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05/05/2008 19:25
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May be my next little project for when the car brakes down on the drive way My front have been sound proofed with dyno mat but i agree, its really not the cheapest stuff to purchase. The fronts really do sound amazing infinity kappa, but just misses that surround feeling, especially with a sub. I doubt ill replace with anything to special as i just want them to fill that empty sound and finish things off
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Re: Rear speakers, oh my goodness!
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05/05/2008 21:40
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Alpine are pretty much the top brand, and im not really to sure about Blaupunkt to be honest. Then id say pionner, which i own then sony, jvc, kenwood etc. Things aint changed much
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Re: Rear speakers, oh my goodness!
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05/05/2008 22:15
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Alpine, Alpine, Alpine...you get the message Stan.
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Re: Rear speakers, oh my goodness!
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06/05/2008 02:00
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OK Mr. May, please please please tell me how the whole in car PC install story.
I have had an idea along those lines for a long time, but no idea how to achieve it. You're screen install looks superb, I kept thinking of utting / mounting the screen at the top where the vents are, but I kept thinking "must be a better way" not to mention where the actual PC is and how you get the amp to remote switch on and oohhh soooo many questions....
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Re: Rear speakers, oh my goodness!
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06/05/2008 14:46
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Any pics of the speakers installed?
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Re: Rear speakers, oh my goodness!
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06/05/2008 16:48
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Hmmm, so let me get this straight: Sony is good, what was better? Well depends what your looking at
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Re: Rear speakers, oh my goodness!
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06/05/2008 18:51
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Brian,
I'm also in the process of putting a car PC in my dash.
I will post pics if anyones is interested and I don't want to hi-jack this post.
My touchscreen is mounted at the top of the centre console but was wondering what you did with the headunit??
also I have some touch screen software (MediaCar) with a nice Fiat layout and very easy to use if you fancy it I will send it to you.
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Re: Rear speakers, oh my goodness!
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06/05/2008 23:04
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feel free to ask any questions.
I install carpcs in my (not so) free time, so I hope I can help you.
I installed the screen a little bit low, but I'd rather have it there then spoil the top of the centre console with that classy pininfarina badge. I've tested 3 other solutions before: a homemade indash screen (when there weren't still any vga indash screens around), an indash where the radio normaly is and an indash where the ashtray normaly is.
The pc is under the boot's false floor, I have no head unit, all sound goes directly from an hda xplosion sound card to the amplifier by means of an optical cable
as for software I use Centrafuse 1.47 with a moded skin for fiat (just "FIAT" at the centre of the screen really)
Anyway, when I have the time I'll write a topic with lots of pictures, on my install...I hope that happens by the end of the month
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Re: Rear speakers, oh my goodness!
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14/05/2008 12:17
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i upgraded the speakers in mine to infinity kapper all round and sound proofed the doors and rear quarters and it sound very good.
this is the budget set untill i get my apine type x through
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