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Re: to get 300bhp for a 16vT [Re: ] #541629
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 Originally Posted By: paulinho
No...wrong
That file is from a Ford Escort Cosworth, same Weber-Marelli IAW P8 management system.


Don't bullshit me Paulinho,
Ford has P8 you're right, like the EVO2 who also has a P8, the WH4WG.P8

The 'abarth' chip is just a stock fiat chip with the EVO2 injection table, ignition table and boost tables copied on.

I will say more, the evocars is a slighty modified EVO2 or 'abarth' chip but they made it run too rich.

Re: to get 300bhp for a 16vT [Re: ] #541636
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thanks all
have all the info for the moment now im goin gto start to buy the parts.

Re: to get 300bhp for a 16vT [Re: ] #541639
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German Delta Integrale users maybe buying the same chip with a different label on it \:P
At least a friend of mine had buyed one chip from a German guy from Ebay for his Delta and was the same maps that Evocars.
I don´t say that is the best chip, but have served lots of people relatively well for some time
For someone is good and for others maybe not the best option.
The best was to send several chip´s to one guy with a standard 16VT in England for ex. and then compare it in a RR
I send one free from any cost! \:D
If there is one out there having best results that Evochip then i want it!

Re: to get 300bhp for a 16vT [Re: ] #541644
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Believe me that puceabarth.bin was taken from an Ford Escort Cosworth file that was online
i am not here for bullshiting noone
I already told that it´s in the interest for everybody including me to have more options then the Evochip
I don´t feed my family selling chips or else i´ll be dead along time ago
And i think that this is going of topic by now

Obs: the original file that i get from the net had another name (not puceabarth)

Re: to get 300bhp for a 16vT [Re: ] #541648
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thanks paulinho and saint and everyone else.
if theres anything i dont undesrtand while im desmantling the coop il let you now and ill send pics eswel of the proces.
now i just how to not mess anything up

Re: to get 300bhp for a 16vT [Re: crgracing] #541656
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paulinho cheking through the internet i found this
http://www.lightningmotorsports.com/images/dsbclg.jpg
this is a boost controller but i dont find any diference both go from the turbo pressure tpo the wastegate.
and here is a elcetronic bleed valve
http://www.fuelsystem.co.uk/Bleed%20Valve%20copy.jpg
here is a nother image http://hometown.aol.com/rodneyj123/images/mvc-081f.jpg

Re: to get 300bhp for a 16vT [Re: crgracing] #541694
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None of them are electronic bleed valves...
Try to get in touch with cosmograph from this forum cause he have an very good kit! or ACDELCO \:D

Re: to get 300bhp for a 16vT [Re: ] #542000
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ok thanks paulinho

Re: to get 300bhp for a 16vT [Re: crgracing] #542004
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but is it necesary?

Re: to get 300bhp for a 16vT [Re: crgracing] #542048
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hi every one i would like you guys to chech this image out
http://198.208.187.182/internet/PartImage.jsp?&acpartnbr=214-474
is it this the acdelco part? just whant to confir before ordering
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Re: to get 300bhp for a 16vT [Re: crgracing] #542118
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ive been in the forge web sight and sow this manual bleed valve chek it out !! and cheap to
http://www.forgemotorsport.co.uk/content.asp?inc=product&cat=0016&product=FMBV050

Re: to get 300bhp for a 16vT [Re: crgracing] #542131
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cheap and cheerful, no idea if they are anygood but you don't need it if you get the uprated EBV - it's one or the other in the post above.

maybe you are getting confused with BOV (blow of valves) and bleed valves?


Re: to get 300bhp for a 16vT [Re: Saint] #542142
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no saint blow off i now exactly what it is .
wich one do you recomend me the acdelco or the forge one the acdelco is elctronic and the forge is manual . what do you think saint?

Re: to get 300bhp for a 16vT [Re: crgracing] #542151
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The difference is the electronic one is controlled by the ECU, the forge one is not

As I said a bit earlier I would go with the electronic one as it keeps the ECU safety features. if you want in after market boost control, multiple settings etc then get a decent electronic boost controller like the greddy profec/ apexi AVC-R with all the toys like in gear boost setting and boost by revs etc (depends on model).



Re: to get 300bhp for a 16vT [Re: Saint] #542158
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thanks saint,
wow they are expensive !!!!!
where could i get a cheap one?

Re: to get 300bhp for a 16vT [Re: crgracing] #542160
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so then yo dont recomend the acdelco?

Re: to get 300bhp for a 16vT [Re: crgracing] #542205
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Amigo (I know that your Spanish) \:\) , get the ACDELCO cause it retains the ECU features like standard valve.
The best would be an Apexi or greedy etc. but it would be more expensive.

Do you fancy crossing the border and visit us here in Portugal?
I think that there is a meeting between spanish and portuguese coupe owners

Re: to get 300bhp for a 16vT [Re: ] #542380
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looks like a great idea paulinho, but my coop is in the garagefor the next week i want them to check the hole electrical sistem and engine , gearbox everything before i star to install the mods, att the moment i cant really come down to portugal to much money on petrol and for the moment i need the money for the mods afterwords i will let you know i dont worry ill come to vistit you guys ,
att leaste if i lived closer to portugal but i live in barcelona its on the other side of sapin touching the mediteraneum see its quite far.
paulinho thanks for all your help hope to see you soon!!

Re: to get 300bhp for a 16vT [Re: crgracing] #542488
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I'd like to see my 16vt to 250bhp now.

I have the evochip, a larger backbox, gutted cat, cone filter and PRV set to 1.2 bar but it just doesn't seem fast enough yet lol

I think 3" exhaust with less silencers, a proper decat, uprated FPR and wiring mod on fuel pump should see me to 250, am I right?

Also which EVO intercooler fits the 16vt fairly easily? What do you need to fit it? Someone on here's done it!

Re: to get 300bhp for a 16vT [Re: ] #542502
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i'm with you did, also where can it be done? And cost.

Re: to get 300bhp for a 16vT [Re: ] #542505
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hi there didcoop ive been tolled that you han use any intercooler with thease size 800x600x300 it dosent have to be a evo 6 7 or 8 intercooler , but you will need extra hoses. i still dont have the intercooler but if been reading trhough the how to guide and it explains how to do it. and as for the fuel pump lots of guys on the forum with the 16vT use the walbro fuel pump. its best if you get a 3" exhaust more power.

Re: to get 300bhp for a 16vT [Re: crgracing] #542511
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if you read the posts fearther up theres lots of info to get 250bhp .
for the moment im getting:
the evochip
4 ngk plugs
3barfuel pressure regulator that comes with the evocarchip
boost gauge
intercooler
direct filter
dump valve
fuel pump walbro
and electronic bleed valve a acdelo
and maybe the boost controller

Re: to get 300bhp for a 16vT [Re: crgracing] #542520
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The 3bar FPR doesn't come with the evochip. I should know I have one lol. I'm only missing 2/3 of those parts to see me to 250bhp.

Just wanting to know more about these intercoolers

Re: to get 300bhp for a 16vT [Re: ] #542528
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yesturday i ordered the chip with the option that i could buy it with the 3barfuel regulator pressure and the 4 plugs so i ordered all 3 for 328 pounds like i need the the 3barregulator i just ordered it all together.
as for the intercooler dont now much about them butg if you whant to save money to not buy a evo 6, 7 or 8 like i said you can buy any other make but the size must be 800x600x300 someone correctme if im wrong.

Re: to get 300bhp for a 16vT [Re: crgracing] #542532
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paulinho have a cuestion for you ,
ive been reading books and chekking on the internet and the power boost valve the electronic bleed valve are the same thing , and then you get the boost controller either electronic or manual if cheked it out and thats what i find. if you have more info let me now thease little bits are so complicated

Re: to get 300bhp for a 16vT [Re: crgracing] #542534
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 Originally Posted By: crgracing
i ordered all 3 for 328 pounds

That's a good price \:o

You don't need the 3bar regulator.
the regulator costs 30-50£, spark plugs £30



Re: to get 300bhp for a 16vT [Re: ] #542540
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i ordered it to because im buying a fuel pump eswel.
or dosnt it mater?
328 all check in the evocars web page

Re: to get 300bhp for a 16vT [Re: crgracing] #542552
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wtf?
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I wonder what you've just bought crgracing...

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I don't think evocars is still trading mate

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 Originally Posted By: Vas
wtf?
evocars web page?


http://www.evocars.com/acatalog/index.html

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