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PT tomorrow.
#464710
23/10/2007 00:34
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So tomorrow is the day I will be able to try out my new mods. It's been sooo painful not being able to overtake people doing 40 in 60 limits. ![frown \:\(](/forum/images/graemlins/default/frown.gif) Here's my list of goodies; GT28RS BlueFlame full system incl. race cat Blitz ID3 (Rog said map it on a high setting of 1.4bar) PA FMIC Walbro 255 fuel pump K&N 57i Forge 006 DV Helix clutch The coupé has just had a service and everything looked good, compression of 151-150-151-149-151 and my manifold was o.k. ![shocked \:o](/forum/images/graemlins/default/shocked.gif) I'm more interested in a good reliable coupé than an all out BIG bhp brawler so have been told to ask for it to be taken 3 degrees back from detonation. ![wink ;\)](/forum/images/graemlins/default/wink.gif) Is there anything else I need to ask. Rog said they will set up my Blitz, would this include the in gear settings? So with all that in mind and everything going well tomorrow what sort of results should I see? ![smile \:\)](/forum/images/graemlins/default/smile.gif) Oh yes and is there anything to do at or around PT while I wait? Cheers, Chris. ![smile \:\)](/forum/images/graemlins/default/smile.gif)
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Re: PT tomorrow.
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#464810
23/10/2007 02:16
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eldinho
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i would say your setup is very similar to busa's, except you have a cat and i think kev has a 3 inch downpipe. his is 330bhp!
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Re: PT tomorrow.
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#464855
23/10/2007 02:55
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h2ypr
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I think 330bhp is an attainable figure. I'm off work 2moz dude. I'll drop ya a pm laters.
Ross
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Re: PT tomorrow.
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#464862
23/10/2007 02:59
23/10/2007 02:59
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I'm sure his car is in the hall of fame list.
Not sure of his torque but his full spec is as follows.
Gtec2,GT28R,fmic,dv006,sip,ported manifold,walbro255,jamieflow3"exhaust,,de-cat,avcr. His top setting is 1.5 bar boost i think!
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Re: PT tomorrow.
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#464885
23/10/2007 03:23
23/10/2007 03:23
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Kenno
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3 degrees back from det.. It'll be interesting to see how much difference that'll make. Depending on what fuel you're using, i'd say 310bhp ![smile \:\)](/forum/images/graemlins/default/smile.gif)
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Re: PT tomorrow.
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#464907
23/10/2007 03:35
23/10/2007 03:35
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Waiting on BlueFlame for a 3" DP and that will have to go on after the map (I've been told that won't affect the map?). It will, but only margainly. Having the bigger downpipe will allow the exhaust gases to escape quicker and build up boost soonier, so you maybe a little more lean before full boost, but otherwise, i can't see the top end being affected
Your car is Usain Bolt with wellies
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Re: PT tomorrow.
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#464932
23/10/2007 03:57
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eldinho
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if you start going much further past your current setup you will have to start thinking about going forged. it isn't cheap as i am finding out at the moment ![frown \:\(](/forum/images/graemlins/default/frown.gif)
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Re: PT tomorrow.
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#464948
23/10/2007 04:13
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If you don't have to pull the engine apart leave it as is. I wouldn't even bother with the other DP to be honest.
I would take a bigger FPR though incase the fuel pump can't provide enough fuel.
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Re: PT tomorrow.
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#464961
23/10/2007 04:29
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Kenno
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He was just checking the voltage didn't drop off the pump under load. As for the FPR, you're going to be limited by the amount of fuel you can get in but if they're winding the ignition back anyhow, as they say, you probably won't need it. Good luck.. ![smile \:\)](/forum/images/graemlins/default/smile.gif)
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Re: PT tomorrow.
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#464965
23/10/2007 04:37
23/10/2007 04:37
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MABR
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Good Luck for tomorrow Chris - this has been a long time in the making. Hope you get what you're looking for. ![smile \:\)](/forum/images/graemlins/default/smile.gif)
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Re: PT tomorrow.
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#464973
23/10/2007 04:44
23/10/2007 04:44
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Good luck tomorro fella Be good to see ya results as i'll soon be running similar set-up
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Re: PT tomorrow.
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#465469
23/10/2007 22:55
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Re: PT tomorrow. ~RESULTS~
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#465488
23/10/2007 23:20
23/10/2007 23:20
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Everything went very well. ![laugh \:D](/forum/images/graemlins/default/laugh.gif) I turned up on time, although I couldn't find any V-Power pumps on the way up but PT sorted that out. ![love \:#](/forum/images/graemlins/default/love.gif) I explained what I wanted to Rob and that safety was very important. Rob was very helpful and went through my car thoroughly before starting any work. ![wink ;\)](/forum/images/graemlins/default/wink.gif) I left PT with 324.2bhp at 6,555rpm and 301.6lbft at 4,906rpm and a bloody big smile. ![laugh \:D](/forum/images/graemlins/default/laugh.gif) This was with 1.38bar which was on full song by 3,150rpm. ![cool](/forum/images/graemlins/default/cool.gif) All in all I'm VERY happy. ![love \:#](/forum/images/graemlins/default/love.gif) Yes it does cost a lot but that should be the last engine mod I do now (under the advise of Rog, Rob and the missus ) and it will be worth every penny if I don't have any fueling issues. ![rolleyes](/forum/images/graemlins/default/grin.gif) Thanks for everyones help and advice over the last 2 years, this is the result of that help. ![love \:#](/forum/images/graemlins/default/love.gif) NEXT YEAR BRAKES AND SUSPENSION but she doesn't know that. ![tongue \:P](/forum/images/graemlins/default/tongue.gif)
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Re: PT tomorrow. ~RESULTS~
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#465496
23/10/2007 23:26
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eldinho
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very nice results ![cool](/forum/images/graemlins/default/cool.gif) how much did it cost all together for the live map?
Last edited by eldinho; 23/10/2007 23:27.
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Re: PT tomorrow. ~RESULTS~
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#465497
23/10/2007 23:27
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Looking good dude. You happy?
I'd say from the graph, your on song at 3500-3700rpm. Just about right for that turbo. Did they map it to 99ron?
Why did they map it to 1.38 bar?
Ross
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Re: PT tomorrow. ~RESULTS~
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#465509
23/10/2007 23:34
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Curves still don't cross at 5250rpm and it looks like your spool up is no slower than joels ultraspool. In interesting one for the 'a GT28RS is too laggy' crew to figure out. ![wink ;\)](/forum/images/graemlins/default/wink.gif)
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Re: PT tomorrow. ~RESULTS~
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#465510
23/10/2007 23:36
23/10/2007 23:36
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It was £528.75 incl VAT. ![smile \:\)](/forum/images/graemlins/default/smile.gif) According to the Blitz it's on at 3150rpm and I think Rob might be on later to confirm this as I thought there might be a little doubt . ![wink ;\)](/forum/images/graemlins/default/wink.gif) Rog also had a little drive today. ![cool](/forum/images/graemlins/default/cool.gif) Yes it was mapped on 99ron and it was going to be mapped at 1.35bar but Rob got the torque over the 300 mark by adding .3bar. I think that's why anyway.
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Re: PT tomorrow. ~RESULTS~
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#465516
23/10/2007 23:40
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Curves still don't cross at 5250rpm and it looks like your spool up is no slower than joels ultraspool. In interesting one for the 'a GT28RS is too laggy' crew to figure out. if you look ken, at 5250rpm both the torque and bhp are at 290. its just they are on differnt scales. not a bad price, don't know whether to go perfect touch to get my car live mapped or just tweak the unichip ![confused \:\?](/forum/images/graemlins/default/confused.gif)
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Re: PT tomorrow. ~RESULTS~
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#465517
23/10/2007 23:40
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It might be on full boost, but from the graph it shows where the torque starts to build. When it flats out, thats when your on song.
I think 007's spool up is the same as others have experienced with that turbo. Joel's however, is unique, and is later than barbz and others thought (including myself).
Ross
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Re: PT tomorrow. ~RESULTS~
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#465518
23/10/2007 23:40
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cheesy
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Good results chris bet ya all smiles now
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Re: PT tomorrow. ~RESULTS~
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#465535
23/10/2007 23:49
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Ahh.. school boy error.. Well spotted eldinho. ![smile \:\)](/forum/images/graemlins/default/smile.gif) Damn different scale nonsense!!
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Re: PT tomorrow. ~RESULTS~
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#465538
23/10/2007 23:51
23/10/2007 23:51
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Nice Results ![laugh \:D](/forum/images/graemlins/default/laugh.gif)
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Re: PT tomorrow. ~RESULTS~
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#465540
23/10/2007 23:52
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was the price fixed or do they charge an hourly rate?
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Re: PT tomorrow. ~RESULTS~
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#465541
23/10/2007 23:54
23/10/2007 23:54
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was the price fixed or do they charge an hourly rate? It's a fixed rate for the first map then I think its an hourly rate £110+VAT for re-maps.
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Re: PT tomorrow. ~RESULTS~
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#465634
24/10/2007 02:11
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fair play mate... very good figger there for them mods!
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Re: PT tomorrow. ~RESULTS~
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#465718
24/10/2007 03:49
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Nice one Chris - I'm made up for you mate. ![smile \:\)](/forum/images/graemlins/default/smile.gif)
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Re: PT tomorrow. ~RESULTS~
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24/10/2007 14:21
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HI Chris, Just found 5 mins to get on here ![laugh \:D](/forum/images/graemlins/default/laugh.gif) Replied to quite a few PM's etc etc... Anyways!! I must be sounding like a stuck record now, i maintain that there isnt one other Marque of car that impresses me every time i do a new one like the Coupes, Yours is definately not an exception to this ![smile \:\)](/forum/images/graemlins/default/smile.gif) After gettingthe low to mid throttle stuff done and getting some boost on i could not believe the spool up!! As you can see from the graph the torque is in hard at 3500, on the road in 5th gear this was reduced to around 3300 with full boost around the 3100 mark. Very good setup you have there chris, certainly not worth going forged IMHO... Cams/head yes ![smile \:\)](/forum/images/graemlins/default/smile.gif) Once again nice to meet you mate, get some sleep lol ![laugh \:D](/forum/images/graemlins/default/laugh.gif) Cheers Rob
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Re: PT tomorrow. ~RESULTS~
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#465941
24/10/2007 15:22
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good results, your ambient temps were quite a bit lower than mine
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Re: PT tomorrow. ~RESULTS~
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#465942
24/10/2007 15:23
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good results, your ambient temps were quite a bit lower than mine
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Re: PT tomorrow. ~RESULTS~
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24/10/2007 16:35
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Nice result!
007: Didn´t you get boost- and AFR graph? You have quite a big dip at 4000 rpm. Why? No boost or AFR graph, PT just don't do them. To be honest I don't (I wont pretend to know much about turbos) know and I wouldn't say it was big drop, well I certainly can't feel anything. Regarding ambient temps I thought they were quit good, not tooo low. With around 20deg it means I can play knowing that my car was set up in a safe temp zone 3/4 seasons of the year and who wants to rag a turbo in the summer. Anyway time for a shower and then a little drive. Cheers. ![smile \:\)](/forum/images/graemlins/default/smile.gif)
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Re: PT tomorrow. ~RESULTS~
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24/10/2007 16:37
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Its not a big dip anyways, its just slightly lower torque. It will give you the feeling of a second wind in that gear tho ![wink ;\)](/forum/images/graemlins/default/wink.gif) Ross
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Re: PT tomorrow. ~RESULTS~
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#466136
24/10/2007 19:13
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Freddan, I have to ask why mate? I tune to a certain AFR, just wondered after spending £450 you would want to go to another RR to have it checked again? That would be like going to a garage for an oil change, then booking it into another garage to check the level ![laugh \:D](/forum/images/graemlins/default/laugh.gif) Obviously no worries with it happening but why put doubt into anyones mind and make them spend money they dont have to? Roger from Power Fiat has been doing health checks on cars before they come over to us which i think is a very good idea, but a health check afterwards lol Cheers Rob
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Re: PT tomorrow. ~RESULTS~
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24/10/2007 19:37
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Nice result mate. Rob - great to see you finding the time to post, I know how busy you chaps get. ![smile \:\)](/forum/images/graemlins/default/smile.gif)
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Re: PT tomorrow. ~RESULTS~
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24/10/2007 19:49
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Freddan, I have to ask why mate? I tune to a certain AFR, just wondered after spending £450 you would want to go to another RR to have it checked again? That would be like going to a garage for an oil change, then booking it into another garage to check the level ![laugh \:D](/forum/images/graemlins/default/laugh.gif) Obviously no worries with it happening but why put doubt into anyones mind and make them spend money they dont have to? Roger from Power Fiat has been doing health checks on cars before they come over to us which i think is a very good idea, but a health check afterwards lol Cheers Rob As a costumer I always want to know the result and that includes the AFR value and if it fluctuates with different boost settings. If you don´t tell the costumer what the AFR is then the costumer need to go to another RR and get the result. Or maybe 007 knows and he doesn´t want to tell us?? ![smile \:\)](/forum/images/graemlins/default/smile.gif)
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Re: PT tomorrow. ~RESULTS~
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24/10/2007 20:23
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freddan, PT do tell the customer what AFR they are running at the highest boost setting, they just dont have facilities to print the reading. PTS never had facilities to print AFR ir i remember correctly. Aslong as the mapper knows the safe limits, and has checked for DET (rob does both) then there really is no issue. Customers running stock internals should really avoid running higher levels of ignition advance and boost, and sacrafice 20bhp for an increased safety margin, particularly for those that are not too knowledgeable of turbo cars, i.e charge temps/Fuelling etc. Rob does however take this into account and im confident that his mapping is spot on, for a good safety and performance compromise. ![smile \:\)](/forum/images/graemlins/default/smile.gif)
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Re: PT tomorrow. ~RESULTS~
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25/10/2007 15:55
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Rob did tell me the AFR but for the life of me I can't remember what it was. My head has to remember sooo much as it is (wake up, shower, eat breakfast, go to work, spend all day on fccuk.org ![wink ;\)](/forum/images/graemlins/default/wink.gif) , come home and sleep. I'm sure there's something else! ![crazy](/forum/images/graemlins/default/crazy.gif) ) that trying to remember something that really makes no difference if I know or not almost impossible. Anyway 1.4bar has had its day of fun (and what a day it was, 5th gear is incredible! ![laugh \:D](/forum/images/graemlins/default/laugh.gif) ) now she stays on 1.25bar. Anyway thanks again, Chris. (Sh!t, breath!) ![shocked \:o](/forum/images/graemlins/default/shocked.gif)
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Re: PT tomorrow. ~RESULTS~
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#466817
25/10/2007 15:58
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Why not run it at 1.4 bar all the time? U know its safe.
Ross
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Re: PT tomorrow. ~RESULTS~
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26/10/2007 02:02
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007 - you still have a v-band adaptor right? Also, are you still on the 3bar FPR?
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Re: PT tomorrow. ~RESULTS~
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#467478
26/10/2007 03:54
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Nice result Chris, hope I get similar in a few weeks ![smile \:\)](/forum/images/graemlins/default/smile.gif) My only concern is Rog advises that I don't need the fuel pump mod. I want to believe him, but just feel I should not leave this to chance.
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Re: PT tomorrow. ~RESULTS~
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26/10/2007 05:09
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Some cars need it - some dont. Either way if anything is wrong PT will tell you when they are mapping. You can test this yourself by measuring the voltage at the pump when the car comes on boost - if it drops off then IMO you need the wiring mod.
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Re: PT tomorrow. ~RESULTS~
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#468326
27/10/2007 14:03
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EBC's hold boost better to the redline and can bring boost in more progressively. when i'm driving slow i have mine on 0.9bar, it's much easier to drive as it doesn't feel like its going to come on to boost all the time. and when it does come on boost its not as manic. my aquamist is also set to only come on at 1bar+ so another reason for me to not to leave it on full boost all the time. or i'd be going through 10 gallons of methanol a month ![tongue \:P](/forum/images/graemlins/default/tongue.gif)
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