0 registered members (),
221
guests, and 3
spiders. |
Key:
Admin,
Global Mod,
Mod
|
|
Forums69
Topics113,822
Posts1,342,983
Members1,645
|
Most Online731 Jan 14th, 2020
|
|
|
Solid Rear Bushes...
#450348
06/10/2007 00:26
06/10/2007 00:26
|
13ad13oy
Unregistered
|
13ad13oy
Unregistered
|
Hi All I know this has been mumbled around the forum a bit, but here is my progress for anbody who is interested ![smile \:\)](/forum/images/graemlins/default/smile.gif) So far I have bought a chunk of aluminium from these chaps and have drawn up some bushes using my shakey CAD skills. I have sent my request off to 4 machiners, and so far have had quotes of: 1. £120+VAT & Materials 2. £60+VAT & Materials. The Metal its self was £25+VAT and £14.50 delivery, but the Metal Fast crew where very helpful and it came next day. I think I will test run the bushes - hoping I got all the dimensions correct etc and see what the final costs are like and maybe if there's interest do a GB. If anybody has faith in my CAD drawing then I'm more than happy to Email it to you for your own fettling - PM me. So I guess best estimate so far is about £100 without postage, which is quite alot, so fingers crossed it will be worth it ![laugh \:D](/forum/images/graemlins/default/laugh.gif) Alastair
|
|
|
Re: Solid Rear Bushes...
[Re: ]
#450446
06/10/2007 02:45
06/10/2007 02:45
|
h2ypr
Unregistered
|
h2ypr
Unregistered
|
I'm still interested dude. If you get some made, i know someone who can probably replicate for cheaper?
Ross
|
|
|
Re: Solid Rear Bushes...
[Re: ]
#450677
06/10/2007 15:34
06/10/2007 15:34
|
sediciRich
Unregistered
|
sediciRich
Unregistered
|
Great web site, good price for the material too.
Rich
|
|
|
Re: Solid Rear Bushes...
[Re: ]
#450713
06/10/2007 17:08
06/10/2007 17:08
|
13ad13oy
Unregistered
|
13ad13oy
Unregistered
|
Great web site, good price for the material too.
Rich Got a lump of 30x40x200 for my arb brackets too - £8 ![laugh \:D](/forum/images/graemlins/default/laugh.gif)
|
|
|
Re: Solid Rear Bushes...
[Re: Jimbo]
#451014
07/10/2007 04:54
07/10/2007 04:54
|
Joined: Dec 2005
Posts: 1,576 Glasgow,Near Florence..If only...
paul
My life on the forum
|
My life on the forum
Joined: Dec 2005
Posts: 1,576
Glasgow,Near Florence..If only...
|
Wonder if its possible to produce some rear bushes using alloy and polyurathane to absorb a little more vibration ?
Nowt wrong with that,would be ideal
was Paul S,now just paul...Member since Oct 2000,Coupe may be FATALLY injured - :(oh no it's not
|
|
|
Re: Solid Rear Bushes...
[Re: stan]
#506812
21/12/2007 17:27
21/12/2007 17:27
|
13ad13oy
Unregistered
|
13ad13oy
Unregistered
|
This has been quiet for ages, so a quick update... After getting some project work out of the way and making enough time to go to the machinest, The bushes have been made up and I'm collecting on monday. MattB is going to guinea pig them and if all goes OK, maybe we can think about a GB, if there is any interest....? So far the total cost has been aroundabout £100-110 Will post up some pics when I get ahold of them ![smile \:\)](/forum/images/graemlins/default/smile.gif) Alastair ![smile \:\)](/forum/images/graemlins/default/smile.gif)
|
|
|
Re: Solid Rear Bushes...
[Re: ]
#508567
26/12/2007 21:16
26/12/2007 21:16
|
13ad13oy
Unregistered
|
13ad13oy
Unregistered
|
For anybody who is interested... Tah - Dah ! ![smile \:\)](/forum/images/graemlins/default/smile.gif) Now being posted to our in-house Guinea Pig ![smile \:\)](/forum/images/graemlins/default/smile.gif) Alastair
|
|
|
Re: Solid Rear Bushes...
[Re: stan]
#509167
28/12/2007 03:39
28/12/2007 03:39
|
Mark_K
Unregistered
|
Mark_K
Unregistered
|
I'll be interested too depending on how hard they are to fit and Matts write up after fitting. Good effort so far though. ![wink ;\)](/forum/images/graemlins/default/wink.gif) Mark
|
|
|
Re: Solid Rear Bushes...
[Re: Jimbo]
#509192
28/12/2007 04:40
28/12/2007 04:40
|
suba
Unregistered
|
suba
Unregistered
|
Im with Stan on this, its a cause of concern for the future.
Wonder if its possible to produce some rear bushes using alloy and polyurathane to absorb a little more vibration ? Would it not be better to go for poly ones? I'm up for either option - they're going to get done with the rear arms soon....
|
|
|
Re: Solid Rear Bushes...
[Re: paul]
#509222
28/12/2007 06:01
28/12/2007 06:01
|
h2ypr
Unregistered
|
h2ypr
Unregistered
|
Poly isnt exactly that much more flexible.
Ross
|
|
|
Re: Solid Rear Bushes...
[Re: paul]
#509231
28/12/2007 06:18
28/12/2007 06:18
|
h2ypr
Unregistered
|
h2ypr
Unregistered
|
Hmmm. Could the solid mounts be used as a mould for poly?
Ross
|
|
|
Re: Solid Rear Bushes...
[Re: Nigel]
#509276
28/12/2007 14:48
28/12/2007 14:48
|
h2ypr
Unregistered
|
h2ypr
Unregistered
|
Ah. Wasnt sure. Has anyone contacted them with regards to it?
Ross
|
|
|
Re: Solid Rear Bushes...
[Re: ]
#509408
28/12/2007 19:09
28/12/2007 19:09
|
sediciRich
Unregistered
|
sediciRich
Unregistered
|
you cant use PU on the rear, there's not straight forward way of incorporating that into the design. Listen until you actually look at the rear bushes enough with the random comments about PU. You have to have a clamp design with the bolt through the middle, the std bush achieves that with some seriously well bonded centre to a rubber bush which is then bonded to an outer section. Under the middle section is a spot welded cover.
rich
|
|
|
Re: Solid Rear Bushes...
[Re: Nigel]
#509428
28/12/2007 19:30
28/12/2007 19:30
|
13ad13oy
Unregistered
|
13ad13oy
Unregistered
|
The poly bushes wouldn't be moulded (at least not for a run of this volume)
Much easier to get them turned on a lathe If you wanted poly, could you not buy a bar as the aluminium and turn them in the same way?
|
|
|
Re: Solid Rear Bushes...
[Re: ]
#509710
29/12/2007 17:25
29/12/2007 17:25
|
sediciRich
Unregistered
|
sediciRich
Unregistered
|
For anybody who is interested... Tah - Dah ! ![smile \:\)](/forum/images/graemlins/default/smile.gif) Now being posted to our in-house Guinea Pig ![smile \:\)](/forum/images/graemlins/default/smile.gif) Alastair Alastair, is the depth of the stepped section (parallel to the bolt axis) equal or less that the lip height on the sub frame - if its greater then the frame could move up and down in that space. if you turned the same thing from PU the bolt would pull through it and the lip on the frame would cut the PU in seconds. Rich
|
|
|
Re: Solid Rear Bushes...
[Re: ]
#509716
29/12/2007 17:32
29/12/2007 17:32
|
13ad13oy
Unregistered
|
13ad13oy
Unregistered
|
Alastair, is the depth of the stepped section (parallel to the bolt axis) equal or less that the lip height on the sub frame - if its greater then the frame could move up and down in that space.Rich It should be the same so the subframe should be solid. I did wonder if you could make the bushes thinner to lower the back end slightly but I think that would have ended in the subframe not sitting correctly so left at standard thickness. if you turned the same thing from PU the bolt would pull through it and the lip on the frame would cut the PU in seconds. Rich
Thought that may be the case ![smile \:\)](/forum/images/graemlins/default/smile.gif)
|
|
|
Re: Solid Rear Bushes...
[Re: ]
#509733
29/12/2007 18:00
29/12/2007 18:00
|
suba
Unregistered
|
suba
Unregistered
|
Thanks for the commments Rich! ![smile \:\)](/forum/images/graemlins/default/smile.gif)
|
|
|
Re: Solid Rear Bushes...
[Re: ]
#509751
29/12/2007 18:28
29/12/2007 18:28
|
sediciRich
Unregistered
|
sediciRich
Unregistered
|
Yes you could lower it, I may do this to mine as I made them too thick, the only issue you get is the hole in the chassis rail for the top damper bolt becomes obscured if the dimension changes. But to get round that for the occasional damper change I remove the top cap and raise it up on the bolt, of course it would be the other way round for a lower (thinner) top section.
Rich
|
|
|
Re: Solid Rear Bushes...
[Re: ]
#510746
31/12/2007 14:16
31/12/2007 14:16
|
Taz
Unregistered
|
Taz
Unregistered
|
......just have the rear 2 bushes changed, as these are the ones that begin to rot. I had Barbz do the horrible task of this for me & he siad it was a real sod to do. My bushes were solid alu' with no lady-smady damping rubbish / PU sleeves. I can honestly say that I cannot notice any difference in ride quality, except the rear just feels somewhat more planted ( in addition to the Eibach rear arb ). Taz ![smile \:\)](/forum/images/graemlins/default/smile.gif)
|
|
|
Re: Solid Rear Bushes...
[Re: ]
#510760
31/12/2007 15:30
31/12/2007 15:30
|
suba
Unregistered
|
suba
Unregistered
|
I think that settles it then - I'm interested in the solid variety.
|
|
|
Re: Solid Rear Bushes...
[Re: ]
#510790
31/12/2007 16:21
31/12/2007 16:21
|
Joined: Dec 2005
Posts: 1,576 Glasgow,Near Florence..If only...
paul
My life on the forum
|
My life on the forum
Joined: Dec 2005
Posts: 1,576
Glasgow,Near Florence..If only...
|
I had Barbz do the horrible task of this for me & he siad it was a real sod to do. Taz Your lady smady enough............you didn`t do em yourself ![laugh \:D](/forum/images/graemlins/default/laugh.gif)
was Paul S,now just paul...Member since Oct 2000,Coupe may be FATALLY injured - :(oh no it's not
|
|
|
Re: Solid Rear Bushes...
[Re: paul]
#539049
10/02/2008 01:49
10/02/2008 01:49
|
Joined: Dec 2005
Posts: 10,729 N.E Scotland
mattB
Club member 6
|
Club member 6
I AM a Coop
Joined: Dec 2005
Posts: 10,729
N.E Scotland
|
A little update for those interested. Over the past few weeks, amongst a lot of other work on my coupe, these rear subframe bushes were fitted. I didn't actually think it was terribly difficult to do, and they were a nice fit in the subframe. The rear ones were in pretty chewed up, although the front ones seemed in not bad condition (that's before I smacked them several times with a big hammer ![wink ;\)](/forum/images/graemlins/default/wink.gif) ). Also fitted at the same time, were powerflex bushes to replace this mess and the rear trailing arm bearings were replaced. So it's pretty hard to gauge how much of a difference they've made, but it definately feels a lot better than it did. The fact that I've only driven a Hyundai Getz since before christmas makes the comparison all the harder. ![rolleyes](/forum/images/graemlins/default/grin.gif) I'll give a bit more feedback in the next few weeks, but so far everything's looking pretty good. http://s50.photobucket.com/albums/f312/bryce_matthew/Coupe%20rear/And that, I think, completes the elimination of all rubber from my suspension setup. ![laugh \:D](/forum/images/graemlins/default/laugh.gif)
Last edited by mattB; 10/02/2008 01:50.
Death-rattle-tastic
|
|
|
Re: Solid Rear Bushes...
[Re: Nigel]
#539065
10/02/2008 02:25
10/02/2008 02:25
|
Joined: Dec 2005
Posts: 10,729 N.E Scotland
mattB
Club member 6
|
Club member 6
I AM a Coop
Joined: Dec 2005
Posts: 10,729
N.E Scotland
|
13ad13oy sorted them out for me, but the design is dink's. I think there is a bit more road noise, but I'm so unused to driving the coupe it's hard to tell (you cant even hear the engine in the Getz and I often find myself trying to start it again after it's already running ![rolleyes](/forum/images/graemlins/default/grin.gif) )
Death-rattle-tastic
|
|
|
Re: Solid Rear Bushes...
[Re: mattB]
#539477
11/02/2008 01:51
11/02/2008 01:51
|
suba
Unregistered
|
suba
Unregistered
|
these are on my to do list soon - I guess I should get hold of a set from badboy (can't remember the exact name now......) ![smile \:\)](/forum/images/graemlins/default/smile.gif) now just need to sort out the rear springs, front top mounts, and repair both rear arms, then test the braking bias blah blah blah.....
|
|
|
|