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Re: perfect touch disaster [Re: Easy] #415489
15/08/2007 11:53
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Well I guess this turbo (since its the same as I use) is good for 347 bhp at low boost, say 1.2 bar or so? I get around 400 with 1.5-1.6 bar

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Civic,tried that and all is fine.Changing the plugs soon so might do compression for peace of mind.But shes only done 63k now on the engine but the last few have been a bit hard on her.

Re: perfect touch disaster [Re: Easy] #415566
15/08/2007 14:56
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 Originally Posted By: Easy
A point I'd like to make that no-one seems to have picked up on. It seems everyone is of the assumpton that PT didn't really 'stress' the car with only ONE full throttle run and a few low power runs. This is because Rob has stated he backed off on the full throttle run at 5000rpm. Now without running say 1.5bar+, you will not get 347bhp at 5000rpm.

Either the car was redlined(if it had been, this was probably more than once)at a lower boost setting hence the 347bhp headline figure or it was running silly boost to produce the 347bhp at 5000rpm. The latter seems more unlikely as surely PT should know better than this! Even then it is almost impossibleto produce that power at that rpm level.

So it could be that the car WAS redlined and THEN it went pop. PT didn't want to give the graph as it shows exactly what rpm level it was taken to. To say you can't give 'incorrect' graphs isn't true as I have a graph of my car genuinely having to be stopped at around 5000rpm during a mapping session due to a leaking wastegate. I still asked for a graph and got it.


If the car was redlined then you would have heard it bounce off the limiter.....

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347 bhp at 5000 rpm is about 365 lb ft torque - so its not impossible, but it would have required an ill-advisedly large boost spike to get it!

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I can't really comment much on the above, there were only two/three people there on the day who can say what happened and both of the stories conflict. They should really try and sort it out between them, not on a public forum.

There are many scenarios on what 'could' have gone wrong. If the mapping was not finished, then imo you should not have paid.

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Re: perfect touch disaster [Re: ] #415642
15/08/2007 16:31
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I think it time to bring this to a close now.

There have been a lot of pointing of finger comments towards PT, with a few people missing out what tweenierob had to say e.g. no power graph due to new software being put on and various things other things.

Obviously people can make their mind up about this suituation and decide for themselves if they will continue to use PT or find alternatives.


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Your car is Usain Bolt with wellies
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