yes....its true..
the 4x4 20vt coupe is beeing presented this month in
"power techniques"magazine....
title 0-100-->4 sec!!!!!!(although its 3.89 sec)
if you guys can get there in uk the greek edition of power you should get it.......its really worth it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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This will be very interesting I assume it won't be in English, can you translate Any idea on the engine specs?

no,it's not in english but i sure can translate for you.
tasos-->the name of the owner of the 4x4 coupe,at the moment,has
->gt 2876r turbo
->cps forged pistons
->fmic
->sip
->dta pro 8 management
->msd 800cc injectors
->walbro 255 fuel pump x2(!!!!)
->90mm decat hand made exhaust from turbo to back box...

on dynno 452 hp to the wheels....over 510hp(engine)

more info later on...

Unusual choice of turbo, the GT2876R is meant to be horrible, poorly matched hot and cold. Would be good to see the graphs and see how it performs in reality.

more photos.......
http://fileanchor.com/92249-t.jpg
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4x4 conversion...is from alfa romeo 155 q4,with 3 differential,the front one is "free",middle one viscous type,50/50,the third is torsen with maximum lock up to 70%.cps forged pistons,82,50 diameter,compression ratio standard to 8,5:1 2.021cc.
colombo&bariani cams
->inlet->280* 10,2mm
->outlet->260* 9,4mm

intercooler from toyota supra with dimensions 300x600x120mm
blitz blow off valve...

0-400m(1/4 of a mile) 11,8 sec. 197 km/h.

Bigger pics

Fantastic. I'd like to see/read more.

Do u have bigger pictures ?
A scan of the article ?

Impressive stuff!
Looks like it will get enough air to the IC trough that modified bumper. Would be interesting to see larger pics of that.

Take away the "-t" at the end of the link....

i wonder how well it handles?

Many sceptics about this management but I know it works well in fact much better than any other system for the 20VT except autronics.

ChrisB is it possible to find out if his DTA P8 was wired up in “batch mode” or “sequential mode” for the injectors?

Basically in the settings is it 10÷2 or 6-1 to get the 5 pot configuration. As im in the process of setting up my base map and this info will help me greatly.

chrisB:
What is the rim size and name of the rim?

agree, thats what i heard too.
besides this turbo is known to produce only 400-450 crank-hp max.......

graphs would be very interesting to see

@ chris b
do you know which turbine-ar is used ?

@ flea
what turbo are you using ?


macki

its "OZ" 18" ultralegerra.....

it's 10/2 mate.....

Impressive, thats the fastest 1/4 mile time any 20VT Coupe has posted that I've seen, faster than Mavrics 11.9s also. Nice job!

Very Nice :/!! I'de love a nose round it to see where all the 4wd bits go. Must feel such a different driving experience to our regular fwd cars

sweet so this is the fastest fiat coupe going> /?

I'd say probably second, after Goose.

^^PMSL.

4X4 Coupé, mmmmmmmmmmmmmm.

Thanks a lot mate you don't understand how much that has helped me out

Slower than a 16v 4x4 coupe

cant be a 16vt can it,it might be his car that chrisb is on about,i no he has a sig for 16v but com on

cowboy, one is in Italy the other one is in Greece (and it's not ChrisB car, although his is going to be pretty quick pretty soon )

V.

the 4x4 20vt coop,is all dressed up,excactly like factory made,seats,door cards etc,+ 18"s, + extra 100kgr from the 4x4 conversion.
its not a drug or race car...its street legal....

I think that's what make the whole thing cool.
A stylish silver Coupé that is not destroyed by crazy plastic bits.
And it goes like a rocket respect!

cheers alex....
thats the idea...
the work done,is so fine that even when the car is parked,you cant see the rear differential,you have to bend really much,even get below the rear bumper to see that.
genuine plus look,zender front bumper made for better cooling,18s" big brakes and thats it....
tasos(the owner)is preparing a new motor....target 600+hp.

Ron Simons,from RSracing has been given a ride with tasos coupe,and he really was surprised by the car.....

If that is the guy who i think it is (develops suspension and tests it at the Nurburg ring?) tell him to make a set of coilovers for the coupe!

Any pics underneath the car chrisB?

yeap begbie.....
thats him mate....!!!!!
coupe
raffaelo amendola has made a handmade suspension for the 4x4 coupe,with hand made shock absorbers and proflex springs....also coupe has big brake conversion..in front 4-pot brembo calipres,from mitsubishi evo 8 with 330mm discs,and rear,vw-audi 1piston calipers with 290mm discs....

whats the details on the rear caliper conversion, does it fit without spacers/adaptors (i.e. does it bolt straight to the stub axel?)?

they do bolt straight on but I think the offset of the disc is different if I remember correctly. In straight bolt-on mode you can only fit 251mm x22mm vented disc. You need a mount like the Tarox 300mm kit uses to fit a larger diameter disc. If he's using a 290mm discs then chances are he's made a bell for them rather than employed a standard disc and shimmed out the caliper.

John

on my car...i run a rear big brake kit of 285mm using oe caliper,special adaptor and brembo discs...
here is the photo....
http://fileanchor.com/92380.jpg

keep in mind that theese are 18" wheels..
tasos runs 290 mm discs,with vw calipers,with bigger piston size diameter....

LOL

im assuming u mean me!??

cheeky bugger

ive always wanted to see a awd conversion looks sweet!

Excellent work! great matching the power of the engine to the drivetrain, and great results!!

I'm sure most Coupe owners over 300bhp can find 1st and 2nd gear troublesome in the wet, and 3rd and 4th gear for the 400bhp+ boys!, its great to see this working!

Silver always best colour as well

Joe

@chrisB

Any chance of a screen shot from the DTAwin of the "General Engine Settings"? Thanks

fcukking impressive stuff !

I want

with your stuff taz it would certainly fly even quicker, maybe into the 10's...

I am not sure, but i might have climaxed...:( want to 4x4 my coupe badly but dont drive the car hard enough to justify maybe one day.

Nice to see it nicely modified aswell, not shit plastic stuck everywhere, a credit to the owner!!!

Chris, did the 20VT engine bolt straight on? We have converted a coupe using an integrale Dedra. It would be good to drop a 20VT in, just wondering how much work is involved.

hi,yes it does bolt on straight,but you would need some special adaptors to move the engine abit to the left,drivers side for you,in order to fit the 4x4 conversion,differential etc,exactly straight to the back differentia....
the big problem is the oil sump,it is neede to make a new on from the start,custom handmade because of the gear box,and also a different exhaust system.......

presumably to move the engine the chassis arm also had to be cut as there's only a few cms there in the first place?

or attacked with a large sledgehammer maybe

[no, seriously haven't got a clue]

V.

Chris: Fantastic achievement! On ours, we shortened the drive shafts, moved the petrol tank - and slightly modified the boot floor for the diff and modified the exhaust. It produced a wonderful handling car, better than the Racelogic TC on our other coupe (20vt this time :))On our 4x4 we moved the Integrale engine across, but we would much prefer a 20VT. Any chance of any photos/drawings of the sump?

@ Chris: Could we see some photos of the sump respectively of the adaptors for the engine to move it abit to left???

Such a 4x4 would be a wonderful improvement for the handling on country roads :-)
One disadvantage: I believe that you will also gain much loss from an acceleration at higher velocity...
30HP up to 50HP loss through 4x4 at a 450HP-car (on contrary to a front wheel drive, only) could be generated...
not really good for a German Autobahn, if preferred :-)
Still one big advantage:
The durability of the integrale gear box...
I know some people driving with a Delta Integrale and 650HP with original gear box... they never had problems with the gearbox (I know only one problem with a differential from rear axle). It will be definitely more long-living than the 6-speed gear box.
Juergen


Juergen