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Re: fiat coupe 20v turbo plus 4x4 (greece) [Re: ] #310753
06/03/2007 15:18
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Ron Simons,from RSracing has been given a ride with tasos coupe,and he really was surprised by the car.....


If that is the guy who i think it is (develops suspension and tests it at the Nurburg ring?) tell him to make a set of coilovers for the coupe! \:D


Originally Posted by Jonny - After being taken out at Spa
Your car is Usain Bolt with wellies
Re: fiat coupe 20v turbo plus 4x4 (greece) [Re: ] #310767
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Any pics underneath the car chrisB?


Coupé Fiat 20V Turbo Plus 1999, T19 Mitsubishi turbo
https://youtu.be/O9qrLj3Ap00 Now FCP Stage3!
Re: fiat coupe 20v turbo plus 4x4 (greece) [Re: Begbie] #310773
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 Originally Posted By: Begbie
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Ron Simons,from RSracing has been given a ride with tasos coupe,and he really was surprised by the car.....


If that is the guy who i think it is (develops suspension and tests it at the Nurburg ring?) tell him to make a set of coilovers for the coupe! \:D



yeap begbie.....
thats him mate....!!!!!
coupe
raffaelo amendola has made a handmade suspension for the 4x4 coupe,with hand made shock absorbers and proflex springs....also coupe has big brake conversion..in front 4-pot brembo calipres,from mitsubishi evo 8 with 330mm discs,and rear,vw-audi 1piston calipers with 290mm discs....

Re: fiat coupe 20v turbo plus 4x4 (greece) [Re: ] #311047
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whats the details on the rear caliper conversion, does it fit without spacers/adaptors (i.e. does it bolt straight to the stub axel?)?


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Re: fiat coupe 20v turbo plus 4x4 (greece) [Re: S1MMA] #311078
06/03/2007 23:22
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they do bolt straight on but I think the offset of the disc is different if I remember correctly. In straight bolt-on mode you can only fit 251mm x22mm vented disc. You need a mount like the Tarox 300mm kit uses to fit a larger diameter disc. If he's using a 290mm discs then chances are he's made a bell for them rather than employed a standard disc and shimmed out the caliper.

John

Re: fiat coupe 20v turbo plus 4x4 (greece) [Re: JohnS] #311124
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on my car...i run a rear big brake kit of 285mm using oe caliper,special adaptor and brembo discs...
here is the photo....
http://fileanchor.com/92380.jpg

keep in mind that theese are 18" wheels..
tasos runs 290 mm discs,with vw calipers,with bigger piston size diameter....

Re: fiat coupe 20v turbo plus 4x4 (greece) [Re: pinin_prestatyn] #311205
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 Originally Posted By: pinin_prestatyn
I'd say probably second, after Goose.



LOL

im assuming u mean me!??

cheeky bugger

ive always wanted to see a awd conversion looks sweet!

Re: fiat coupe 20v turbo plus 4x4 (greece) [Re: ] #311473
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Excellent work! great matching the power of the engine to the drivetrain, and great results!! \:\) \:\)

I'm sure most Coupe owners over 300bhp can find 1st and 2nd gear troublesome in the wet, and 3rd and 4th gear for the 400bhp+ boys!, its great to see this working!

Silver always best colour as well ;\)

Joe

Re: fiat coupe 20v turbo plus 4x4 (greece) [Re: ] #311707
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@chrisB

Any chance of a screen shot from the DTAwin of the "General Engine Settings"? Thanks

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fcukking impressive stuff !

I want \:\/

Re: fiat coupe 20v turbo plus 4x4 (greece) [Re: ] #312172
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with your stuff taz it would certainly fly even quicker, maybe into the 10's...

Re: fiat coupe 20v turbo plus 4x4 (greece) [Re: ] #312188
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I am not sure, but i might have climaxed...:( want to 4x4 my coupe badly but dont drive the car hard enough to justify \:\( maybe one day.

Nice to see it nicely modified aswell, not shit plastic stuck everywhere, a credit to the owner!!!

Re: fiat coupe 20v turbo plus 4x4 (greece) [Re: ] #313484
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Chris, did the 20VT engine bolt straight on? We have converted a coupe using an integrale Dedra. It would be good to drop a 20VT in, just wondering how much work is involved.

Re: fiat coupe 20v turbo plus 4x4 (greece) [Re: ] #313772
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 Originally Posted By: jowster
Chris, did the 20VT engine bolt straight on? We have converted a coupe using an integrale Dedra. It would be good to drop a 20VT in, just wondering how much work is involved.




hi,yes it does bolt on straight,but you would need some special adaptors to move the engine abit to the left,drivers side for you,in order to fit the 4x4 conversion,differential etc,exactly straight to the back differentia....
the big problem is the oil sump,it is neede to make a new on from the start,custom handmade because of the gear box,and also a different exhaust system.......

Re: fiat coupe 20v turbo plus 4x4 (greece) [Re: ] #313921
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presumably to move the engine the chassis arm also had to be cut as there's only a few cms there in the first place?

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or attacked with a large sledgehammer maybe \:\?

[no, seriously haven't got a clue]

V.

Re: fiat coupe 20v turbo plus 4x4 (greece) [Re: ] #314166
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Chris: Fantastic achievement! On ours, we shortened the drive shafts, moved the petrol tank - and slightly modified the boot floor for the diff and modified the exhaust. It produced a wonderful handling car, better than the Racelogic TC on our other coupe (20vt this time :))On our 4x4 we moved the Integrale engine across, but we would much prefer a 20VT. Any chance of any photos/drawings of the sump?

Re: fiat coupe 20v turbo plus 4x4 (greece) [Re: ] #316993
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@ Chris: Could we see some photos of the sump respectively of the adaptors for the engine to move it abit to left???

Such a 4x4 would be a wonderful improvement for the handling on country roads :-)
One disadvantage: I believe that you will also gain much loss from an acceleration at higher velocity...
30HP up to 50HP loss through 4x4 at a 450HP-car (on contrary to a front wheel drive, only) could be generated...
not really good for a German Autobahn, if preferred :-)
Still one big advantage:
The durability of the integrale gear box...
I know some people driving with a Delta Integrale and 650HP with original gear box... they never had problems with the gearbox (I know only one problem with a differential from rear axle). It will be definitely more long-living than the 6-speed gear box.
Juergen


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